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re: Good luck Kevin Steele, Gus is expecting a lot outta ya.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 12:34 pm to TheCaterpillar
Posted on 6/29/16 at 12:34 pm to TheCaterpillar
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I stated how bad his zone scheme was, pointed out why it was terrible, and posted stats to show 4 different areas he caused us to regress horrifically.
It's hard to say whether it's his scheme or not, though it probably is. What I do know is he took a secondary filled with players who are built to play man coverage and tried to run a zone scheme.
I'd say his scheme would be better if he had the players to fit it, but history doesn't show that to be true. His defenses have gotten worse the longer he was at each school.
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Posted on 6/29/16 at 12:35 pm to RT1941
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I don't see a problem with that - you gotta tell the fans what they want to hear.
In that setting, to those people, you deliver a rah rah message if you want to
Gus pimped JJ all last off season and it exploded and he still got an extension afterward. All I'm saying is that Gus knows how to play his hand. Would it work at Bama, LSU, or UGA? Maybe not. But it's working at Auburn so why not?
Posted on 6/29/16 at 12:35 pm to DawgsLife
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they did pick up some pretty good guys in recruiting, and they will have Carl Lawson back healthy. If he can stay healthy he will make a big difference. If Lawson stays healthy you will see a much improved Auburn defense.
Agreed. The defense Auburn had in the Georgia game was pretty solid. Not that UGA was an offensive juggernaut last year... but Auburn pretty much shut our offense down. With Lawson back, it was obviously not the same Auburn defense that took the field in Baton Rouge.
If you look at all games played after Nov. 1, Auburn's defense ranked 5th in the league in both yards/game and yards/play. That takes the stats from their final 5 games of the season when Lawson was back in the lineup. And it includes 4 games against opponents that went to bowl games. The top four defenses in both of those categories from November on were Alabama, Tennessee, Georgia, and Florida. Again, Auburn was 5th, right behind the Gators. Not bad considering they ranked #14 in the league in games played during September and October.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 12:36 pm to dallasga6
There is plenty to mock Gus about but saying their top goal is to have a top defense this season is a pretty dumb reason 
He didn't say "I promise you without a doubt this will be a top 10 defense", simply that their goal was to field a top 10 defense
He didn't say "I promise you without a doubt this will be a top 10 defense", simply that their goal was to field a top 10 defense
This post was edited on 6/29/16 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 6/29/16 at 12:37 pm to TheCaterpillar
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I'm out.
You said that already. Everyone knows you'll keep coming back.
Sorry that it turns out I also think Steele sucks. You're butthurt because I made you spend time to backup why. Literally - I just wanted an LSU fan to post more than "steele sucks" and you were more than happy to do it.
Which is great. You made this board a little better today
Posted on 6/29/16 at 12:39 pm to TheJones
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You said that already. Everyone knows you'll keep coming back.
Sorry that it turns out I also think Steele sucks. You're butthurt because I made you spend time to backup why. Literally - I just wanted an LSU fan to post more than "steele sucks" and you were more than happy to do it.
Which is great. You made this board a little better today
It ain't gonna happen but if somehow Steele's defense shutout LSU this season I am pretty sure the Rant would explode
Posted on 6/29/16 at 12:41 pm to DawgsLife
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He's an LSU fan.
That said, I can barely explain to the other LSU fan why it's more beneficial to say why something sucks than just saying it sucks.
I can't keep up with their changing fandom to go on top of it
Sorry to any UGA fans I may have offended there 
Posted on 6/29/16 at 12:44 pm to TheJones
Steele's numbers have been posted, ad nauseum, for two years now.
If it's redundant to post Steele sucks it's just as redundant to post the stats that back it up.
If it's redundant to post Steele sucks it's just as redundant to post the stats that back it up.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 12:44 pm to RB10
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Well, considering I haven't said anything about aiming low, the only things that have no bearing on this conversation are your comments. You've done nothing but rant about something I didn't even say. Seriously, are you mentally challenged?
So you did not say
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You never set the expectation at what you think you may be able to achieve, just in case you don't. That's business 101
Now please explain how seting expectations below par is not aiming low.
It's was quite comical you included the business 101 because that it the shittiest thing I have ever heard, especially if you were in sales.
Now pleae continue you with your mentally challenged diatribe with your shitty business acumen.
This post was edited on 6/29/16 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 6/29/16 at 12:46 pm to RB10
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If it's redundant to post Steele sucks it's just as redundant to post the stats that back it up.
After a couple of generic posts about how steele sucks I just expect some stats or something with it. The guy was literally arguing about how Auburn's defense is going to be bad when everyone, including Auburn fans, are aware we won't be fielding a top 10 defense.
The thread isn't even about how bad Auburn's defense will be. It's about Gus not adhering to the OP's standards of coach speak
Posted on 6/29/16 at 12:47 pm to NYCAuburn
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Now please explaine how seting expectations below par is not aiming low.
Dude, setting expectations at what you're sure you can achieve isn't "below par". It is par you fricking dolt.
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It's was quite comical you included the business 101 because that it the shittiest thing I have heard, especially if you were in sales
Business isn't just sales, you know that right?
Even in sales, if you constantly promise 100 sales and only make 80, you're failing. Fact.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 12:49 pm to dallasga6
Good Luck Smart, UGA fans are expecting Bama type results and you have only coached defense with Saban's help.
With that said Auburn is in trouble counting on Steele.
With that said Auburn is in trouble counting on Steele.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 12:55 pm to dallasga6
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Gus Malzahn’s No. 1 goal this upcoming season is to field a top-10 defense
Am I the only one assuming he meant top-10 in the SEC
Posted on 6/29/16 at 1:32 pm to RB10
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Dude, setting expectations at what you're sure you can achieve isn't "below par". It is par you fricking dolt.
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You never set the expectation at what you think you may be able to achieve
What you said.^^^
Again, "dolt" when you dont set goals, you are lowering your expectations or aiming low
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Business isn't just sales, you know that right?
You do realize this same philosophy applies to pretty much the entire competitive world, dont you.
You never hear a guy say, "hey set that bar a little lower, so I know I can make it" or "Hey, lets try to finish second, so if we get first we can be happier", or "Take a few lbs off that bar, I'd like to easily lift it"
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Even in sales, if you constantly promise 100 sales and only make 80, you're failing. Fact.
Do you know how good sales management weeds out the weak and lazy?...
And since you think it only refers to sales, do you know why the asian auto industry decimated the Americans? it wasnt because of sales it was because of production and standards. Go look at how they set their goals for those two items.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 1:43 pm to dallasga6
He is no Ellis Johnson, thank goodness.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 1:44 pm to NYCAuburn
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Again, "dolt" when you dont set goals, you are lowering your expectations or aiming low
Dude seriously, you might be retarded........
I can't have a conversation with someone who doesn't even understand what we're discussing. I've never once mentioned goals.
Not. Once. Yet you keep talking about them.
I'm discussing the expectations that Gus is setting for his team, with the boosters, which is a top 10 defense. He said that AU "needs" a top 10 defense and that is the priority. So, what happens if they don't have a top 10 defense next year? In 2 years? In 3? Gus has failed to meet the expectations he set for himself. That is bad.
One day, when you get out of the fast food industry, you may figure out why setting expectations at a higher level than what you're capable of actually delivering is a bad thing. In the meantime, you should avoid these types of conversations.
ETA: All you have to do is google "Under promise over deliver" and read up on why it's a good strategy in customer driven businesses. Unless you are now going to try and tell me that College and professional sports aren't customer driven.
This post was edited on 6/29/16 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 6/29/16 at 1:53 pm to BHMKyle
quote:I don't think I've never seen a UGA fan reach so far to go out of their way to make their oldest rival look good.
Agreed. The defense Auburn had in the Georgia game was pretty solid. Not that UGA was an offensive juggernaut last year... but Auburn pretty much shut our offense down. With Lawson back, it was obviously not the same Auburn defense that took the field in Baton Rouge.
If you look at all games played after Nov. 1, Auburn's defense ranked 5th in the league in both yards/game and yards/play. That takes the stats from their final 5 games of the season when Lawson was back in the lineup. And it includes 4 games against opponents that went to bowl games. The top four defenses in both of those categories from November on were Alabama, Tennessee, Georgia, and Florida. Again, Auburn was 5th, right behind the Gators. Not bad considering they ranked #14 in the league in games played during September and October.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 1:57 pm to RT1941
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I don't think I've never seen a UGA fan reach so far to go out of their way to make their oldest rival look good.
Pretty easy to run a search for stuff like that.
Rivalry aside, it was obvious Auburn's defense was at least "average" when Lawson was healthy. It was piss poor without him. That was my overall point.
If Lawson can stay healthy all year long, then Auburn has a shot to have a Top 50 defense. Top 10 is a pipe dream, but even a Top 50 defense would be a vast improvement for Auburn under Gus.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 2:24 pm to BHMKyle
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If Lawson can stay healthy all year long
That's a big IF, unfortunately.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 2:37 pm to RB10
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Dude seriously, you might be retarded........
I can't have a conversation with someone who doesn't even understand what we're discussing. I've never once mentioned goals.
good lord you are bad. WTF do you think setting an expatiation is?
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Not. Once. Yet you keep talking about them.
Umm, you do recall the OP right? I will fill you in
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Gus Malzahn’s No. 1 goal this upcoming season is to field a top-10 defense
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I'm discussing the expectations that Gus is setting for his team,
Again are you so dimwitted that you dont realize than an expectation is a goal? seriously? and you are calling me retarded. And even further when the OP and Gus refers to these expectations as "goals"?
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One day, when you get out of the fast food industry, you may figure out why setting expectations at a higher level than what you're capable of actually delivering is a bad thing. In the meantime, you should avoid these types of conversations.
again quite comical, How many last place trophies did you get as a child? Please go learn and read about successful people so you can change your horrible life philosophy of striving to just get by.
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ETA: All you have to do is google "Under promise over deliver" and read up on why it's a good strategy in customer driven businesses. Unless you are now going to try and tell me that College and professional sports aren't customer driven.
please google success first...
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