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re: Going forward, how often do you think it’s realistic for your team to make the playoffs?

Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:05 am to
Posted by AUTiger789
Birmingham, AL
Member since Apr 2022
2522 posts
Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:05 am to
Just scanning the previous 40 years or so, had a playoff existed, Auburn would have likely made it 13 times (33%).

1983, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1993, 1994, 2004, 2006, 2010, 2013, 2017, 2019.

I think every 3 years would be the realistic expectation.

Bottom line is we will soon have 9 teams in this league who will put making the playoff as the minimum expectation as to what makes a season successful. Only 3-4 teams will make it each year though.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
24719 posts
Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:08 am to
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Bottom line is we will soon have 9 teams in this league who will put making the playoff as the minimum expectation as to what makes a season successful. Only 3-4 teams will make it each year though.


Yep and each of those, if their coach is making it regularly, won’t put up with first round exits every year.
Posted by rolltide32
Fort Payne, AL
Member since Nov 2013
6568 posts
Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:14 am to
Appearances by SEC team had the 12 team playoff been in effect since 2014:

Alabama 8/10 (80%) (2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2020, 2021, 2023)

Georgia 7/10 (70%) (2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023)


Ole Miss 3/10 (30%) (2014, 2021, 2023)

Florida 3/10 (30%) (2018, 2019, 2020)

LSU 2/10 (20%) (2018, 2019)

Mississippi State 1/10 (10%) (2014)

Auburn 1/10 (10%) (2017)

Texas A&M 1/10 (10%) (2020)

Tennessee 1/10 (10%) (2022)

Missouri 1/10 (10%) (2023)

Vanderbilt 0/10 (0%)

Arkansas 0/10 (0%)

South Carolina 0/10 (0%)

Kentucky 0/10 (0%)


Future members:
Oklahoma 6/10 (60%) (2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020)
Texas 1/10 (10%) (2023)


Alabama had continuity at HC the entire time and made 8/10 so as long as Saban is around I'm going to put Alabama at 80%.

I'll break down the other teams for fun.

Georgia 7/8 (87.5%) with Kirby but he only missed in year 1 so I'm going to say around 80% for them as well.

Ole Miss is at 30% and they were also only a spot or two out in 2015. They are 2/4 under Lane Kiffin. As long as Kiffin is there I don't think putting their odds at 25-30% is unreasonable.

Kentucky - Stoops has been there the whole time and has 0 imaginary 12 team playoff appearances so this is a safe 0%.

Vanderbilt - Modern ceiling was proven to be 9-4 under Franklin. 0%

South Carolina - Steve Spurrier could have made 3 in a row from 2011-2013 had I extended this exercise to the final years of the BCS. (Someone check if you want they could have been a bubble team in 11 and 12 depending on where the conference champs were all ranked) That said Spurrier ain't walking back through that door. 2%

Arkansas - Never been close to sniffing a 12 team playoff. Only appearance in the final CFP poll was 21st in 2021. That all said Petrino would have made a 12 team playoff had it existed in 2010 and 2011 and he's back running the offense. 5% (sail)

Auburn - Only 1 imaginary playoff appearance under Gus Malzahn. Hugh Freeze had 1 himself at Ole Miss. They combine for 2 in 10 years so I'm going to say 20%.

LSU - Coach O got them two bids. Les Miles and Brian Kelly have combined for 0. Kelly would have had 4 at Notre Dame in 8 years. I'm going to give LSU and Kelly the benefit of the doubt and assume moving forward he can match his 50% rate he had at Notre Dame.

Florida - Suck at hiring coaches. Everybody here hates on Dan Mullen unfairly. Mullen would have had their only 3 appearances in his 4 years. Sun Belt Billy ain't it. I'm going to assume they get the next hire somewhat right after he's fired next season and go with their 10 year number at 30% moving forward.

Oklahoma - Trending down. Their imaginary playoff appearances were in the Stoops / Riley eras in the Big 12. SEC is a whole new ball game and the jury is still out on Venables as a HC though they made a lot of progress this year. For safety I am going to stick Oklahoma at 35%.

Texas - 1 for 10 but Sark is 1 for 3 with a win over the SEC Champion. I think he will continue to do big things at Texas. I will actually put the Longhorns at 50% moving forward.

Mississippi State - Mullen would have made 1 so I'm going to throw them a bone and say 1% if this whole Lebby thing pans out.

Missouri - Drink is now 1 for 4. Program is trending up. Missouri also would have made a 12 teamer in the final year of the BCS Era. I'm going to put them at 20%.

Texas A&M - 1/10 and would have made a 12 team back in 2012 had it exited them as well. The one appearance was with Elko as DC. I'm going to take the safe route here and say 10-20%.

Tennessee - 1/10 They have the right coach for the job. Program is respectable again. Would have easily been in last year. I think 10-20% here is fine as well.



This post was edited on 12/6/23 at 1:21 pm
Posted by KCM0Tiger
Kansas City, MISSOURI
Member since Nov 2011
16269 posts
Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:16 am to
quote:

Based on how things have gone, probably about 15% of the time. This would be the fourth time Mizzou made an appearance since 2007 if the 12-team Playoff existed during that time.


Nailed it. We should be aiming for once or twice per decade.
Posted by AUTiger789
Birmingham, AL
Member since Apr 2022
2522 posts
Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:20 am to
quote:

Auburn - Only 1 imaginary playoff appearance under Gus Malzahn. Hugh Freeze had 1 himself at Ole Miss. They combine for 2 in 10 years so I'm going to say 20%.


Auburn would have likely made it in 2019 and certainly would have in 2017 and 2013. All under Gus.
This post was edited on 12/6/23 at 8:21 am
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
20293 posts
Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:21 am to
With Coach Saban, Bama will remain an annual participant in all likelihood.

He can't have many more years left, though. His replacement will be the most challenging job to fill in CFB, given expectations and how spoiled Bama fans have become. After he leaves, who knows? I hope they can find the right person to manage that pressure and keep it going.
Posted by rolltide32
Fort Payne, AL
Member since Nov 2013
6568 posts
Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:29 am to
quote:

Auburn would have likely made it in 2019


They were ranked 12th. They would have been out because of the AQ Spots.

If we go back before the CFP 2013 is correct obviously. 2010 would have been another in recent memory if we want to further backtrack.
Posted by jamespatterson
Member since Aug 2023
3036 posts
Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:36 am to
35%
Posted by BigTastey
Middle Georgia
Member since Feb 2019
3992 posts
Posted on 12/6/23 at 9:00 am to
Not biased with your breakdown one bit are you. LOL
Tell ya what Big Al, the dawg should have learned to knock the ball down, your fat lineman should have learned and put forth the effort to tackle on a field goal (imaginary season) and we will teach our safety’s to help cover with the corner like he was suppose to do.
Game On!
Posted by redfish99
B.R.
Member since Aug 2007
17682 posts
Posted on 12/6/23 at 9:05 am to
It’s been said it’s expanding to 16 in 25’ after current bowl tv contracts expire. I’d say that there will be at least 3 SEC Teams in that mix every year. I’d think the years that there are 4 would be 1 in 3. LSU for instance should make that number 2 out of every 5. That’s reasonable
Posted by armtackledawg
Member since Aug 2017
13550 posts
Posted on 12/6/23 at 9:06 am to
quote:

I think every 3 years would be the realistic expectation.


I think Auburn would generally make it more often than that with a good coach (which you have). Will be interesting to see if adding Texas/Oklahoma changes that.
Posted by armtackledawg
Member since Aug 2017
13550 posts
Posted on 12/6/23 at 9:09 am to
Adding Texas and Oklahoma is going to reduce whatever we think the percentages should be. Even Bama should be content with 60-65% percent. Think about how many close games they had this year. Now add another tough conference game.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
38597 posts
Posted on 12/6/23 at 9:22 am to
quote:

These are the teams that feel they should be in it every year

Bama
UGA
Tex
Oklahoma
LSU

Clemson
Oregon
USC
Michigan
Ohio St
Penn St


Obviously this isn't going to happen and other teams are going to get in.


Exactly.

I'd be happy with 1 playoff birth every 2 to 3 years.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
23177 posts
Posted on 12/6/23 at 9:23 am to
Ole Miss is making it's 4th NY6 bowl. Only Alabama and Georgia have had more in SEC and are 8th nationally for appearances.

Based off history, Ole Miss should be around 50%.

Any fan not from Alabama or Georgia, needs to lower their expectations. Looking at you Texas. You only managed to make top 12 twice and that was in the weak Big12. Your life is going to get much harder now, just ask your little brother. Aggie made it once and it took Covid to make it happen.
Posted by Chad4Bama
Member since Sep 2020
7225 posts
Posted on 12/6/23 at 9:24 am to
Bama would not have missed a 12 team playoff a single time in the past 15 years.

I'm sure at some point they'll miss it one year... and people will declare the dynasty over... again.
This post was edited on 12/6/23 at 9:27 am
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
23177 posts
Posted on 12/6/23 at 9:24 am to
quote:

Top 12 - LSU, UGA and Bama


Ole Miss has more NY6 than LSU
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
38597 posts
Posted on 12/6/23 at 9:25 am to
quote:

Based off history, Ole Miss should be around 50%.


Posted by lsudave1
Baton Metairie
Member since Jan 2005
9782 posts
Posted on 12/6/23 at 9:27 am to
quote:

Ole Miss has more NY6 than LSU


That's great! And LSU has 4x the national championships that Ole Miss does. Which would you prefer?
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
23177 posts
Posted on 12/6/23 at 9:27 am to
quote:

Ole Miss 3/10 (30%) (2014, 2021, 2023)


We going to ignore 2016 Sugar win over Oklahoma State
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
24719 posts
Posted on 12/6/23 at 9:29 am to
quote:

Ole Miss has more NY6 than LSU


6 since 1970

LSU has 18 in that same time.
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