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re: ‘Godfather’ of college football Roy Kramer weighs in on 12-team expanded playoff
Posted on 12/1/22 at 9:53 am to 3rddownonthe8
Posted on 12/1/22 at 9:53 am to 3rddownonthe8
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Pretty sure if Bama got into the 12 team playoff this year at 10-2 and win the title, no one would be saying oh they were just the tournament champion. They would be 14-2.. that’s pretty damn great if you ask me.
the issue wiht this is that prior to the playoffs they have zero noteworthy wins and have 2 losses and didn't win their division. Their resume is as bland as celery. Sure they could get hot and ride a hot streak to the title, but the entire point is that they don't DESERVE to make the playoffs in the first place based on their resume.
The regular season currently means a whole frickton of a lot; when we expandn to 12 it'll basically mean nothing.
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 9:54 am to WylieTiger
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I always wanted 8 teams. The champions of each Power 5 conference and 3 at large teams.
Why is Big 12 minus OU and Texas still being talked about as P5? Or PAC without SC and UCLA?
Posted on 12/1/22 at 9:54 am to Dawgfanman
We will probably have a three-loss National Champion in 5 years.
Someone eventually is gonna get hot and make a run at the right time that completely shite the bed in the regular season.
Someone eventually is gonna get hot and make a run at the right time that completely shite the bed in the regular season.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 9:58 am to WG_Dawg
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The regular season currently means a whole frickton of a lot; when we expandn to 12 it'll basically mean nothing.
This is what is frustrating.
College football had the greatest regular season on Earth.
What's to say you won't start seeing teams resting players when they have a guaranteed spot?
the playoff games in Home Stadiums will be awesome tho.
Playoff games at night in Tiger Stadium, Sanford, Bryant- Denny, etc. will be incredible.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 9:58 am to FlexDawg
12 teams just ruins the regular season. A team like Clemson loses in the final week and only drops 1 spot in the rankings.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 9:59 am to WG_Dawg
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are you too dense to understand that if a 12 team playoff existed in the 21st century we would've made the playoffs for 100% certain in 2002, 2005, 2007, 2012, 2017, 2018, 2019, and 2021, with chances in 2003 and 2008 as well?
Why didn't you make it those years?
You dropped games you shouldn't have.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 9:59 am to Dawgfanman
I don't know. I feel that is a happy medium between not enough and too many teams, while not leaving out a conference champ.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:00 am to WG_Dawg
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The regular season currently means a whole frickton of a lot; when we expandn to 12 it'll basically mean nothing.
False and this narrative really makes no sense. The regular season means a lot in CBB and baseball. Seeding is important. In what sport does is the regular season meaningless? Also with an expanded playoff there would be 15-16 teams & fanbases still playing to make the playoff as opposed to 5-6 teams having a chance. I definitely think the excitement level will be more having more teams with a chance.
The only change that should me made is all games except for title games should be played on campus.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:03 am to FlexDawg
The main reason I see for expanded playoffs is to weed out posers like TCU that play weak AF schedules. That’s one thing I kinda liked about the BCS format was the objective comparative SOS calculations.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:09 am to TrussvilleTide
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Why didn't you make it those years?
You dropped games you shouldn't have.
so in your mind, UGA is such an elite otherwordly force that we are supposed to win every single game we play and any game we don't win it's some kind of mistake? The fact that there happen to be other better teams out there occasionally is lost on you?
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:11 am to FlexDawg
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“As you move it to 12, it becomes more like the basketball championship, and that is certainly a fine event,” Kramer said. “But you really are the tournament champion. Are you the best team in the country?
100% disagree. There have been teams out over a fluke game! So his thought of a possible "upset" is there before the end of the season and the CFB.
In other words, a 2 way street.
What about teams that have to play a conference championship and due to a loss, their ONLY loss they were left out.
It's a 2 way street and he's just mad they got it wrong.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:13 am to WG_Dawg
He is correct, but the NFL has always been that way. It does not always produce the best team as the Super Bowl champion.
In fact the 2007 Patriots are considered by most experts to be the greatest football team of all time and they lost the Super Bowl. That could and will probably happen in CFB moving forward as well.
In fact the 2007 Patriots are considered by most experts to be the greatest football team of all time and they lost the Super Bowl. That could and will probably happen in CFB moving forward as well.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:14 am to WG_Dawg
I think teams like UGA, Bama, Clemson, and Ohio St should win all of their games most years given their divisions and recruiting advantages, sure. Of course sometimes UGA and Bama or UGA and Clemson play each other, or theres a 2019 LSU that comes up. I'd say Most of UGA's divisional losses in that time have been upsets.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:15 am to Dawgfanman
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We aren’t talking about having 4 and 5 loss teams, playing for the title..
With the auto bid for p5 champs you might be and you are certain to get 3 loss teams.
Theoretically, if a 5-loss conference champion lost all 5 games within their conference and that conference is far and away better than all the others, they definitely deserve a shot at a national title.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:17 am to Havoc
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The main reason I see for expanded playoffs is to weed out posers like TCU that play weak AF schedules.
Played and beat 5 ranked teams That included both Oklahoma, OSU. Played and beat both Kansas and KSU. Played and beat a ranked Tx.
Nothing about that was weak.
This post was edited on 12/1/22 at 10:20 am
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:58 am to Dawgfanman
they already basically are in the playoffs every year though
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:58 am to finchmeister08
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Kramer pointed out that, like the multi-tiered NFL playoffs, chances for the best teams to get upset increase.
duh. that's the point. protecting the Bamas, Georgias, Michigans, and Ohio States of the world is bull shite. if they really are the best teams in the nation, they shouldn't really worry about playing 1 extra post-season game if they make the top-4.
You've missed the point entirely.
More football is good for money and representation.
But it isn't "more good football".
The time that the best team doesn't win will be the exception. And it will happen. But maybe 1 in 10 years.
We will get that excitement for the underdog... but receive a crap ton of bad games to get there.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:58 am to Jjdoc
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The main reason I see for expanded playoffs is to weed out posers like TCU that play weak AF schedules.
Played and beat 5 ranked teams That included both Oklahoma, OSU. Played and beat both Kansas and KSU. Played and beat a ranked Tx.
Nothing about that was weak.
Well, some of that is based on the inherent flaws in the ranking system in the first place.
OkSt is 4-5, 7-5.
Ok is 3-6, 6-6.
KA is 3-6, 6-6.
For reference,
MS State is 4-4, 8-4
Ole Miss is 4-4, 8-4
South Carolina is 4-4, 8-4
Yet none of those are ranked.
It appears more like this season the rankings are and have been stacked in favor of the Big 12, so when mediocre teams beat each other, they all benefit from it.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 11:02 am to FlexDawg
I mean this is how it is in most other sports, hell the best team barely wins in March Madness
Posted on 12/1/22 at 11:12 am to meansonny
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But it isn't "more good football".
that's subjective. what you think is "bad/good football" may not mean the same when i think of "bad/godo football".
#5 OSU vs #12 Washington = Good Football in my opinion.
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