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re: ‘Godfather’ of college football Roy Kramer weighs in on 12-team expanded playoff
Posted on 12/1/22 at 1:53 pm to Old Hellen Yeller
Posted on 12/1/22 at 1:53 pm to Old Hellen Yeller
Now with these super conferences the sec teams better embrace this new expanded playoff because undefeated or even one loss seasons are going to be harder and harder to come by.
Too much talent and money in one conference.
Too much talent and money in one conference.
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 1:53 pm to PerrillouxToTexas
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So you would've been fine losing then?
I'm sure this is an extremely low effort attempt at some kind of "gotcha", but the fact that that game would have no bearing on us making the playoffs or not would certainly take a good bit of the sting out.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 2:00 pm to bstew3006
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By your logic:
NFL / MLB / NBA should just have conference championships
Well... the nhl and NBA regular seasons are meaningless.
(MLB games are meaningless... but that is because there are 162 of them. Each game matters very little).
So that leaves you with an NFL argument. I don't watch the NFL. So my vote goes to meaningful regular season games and a very difficult championship process.
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March madness should just start at elite 8?
College baseball at supers?
Don't watch. Don't care.
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There’s no downside to expanding.
Well... you ignore the downside. But you be you.
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In fact, this will make the closing weeks for the top 20 that more important for teams that had untimely injuries etc.
It’s going to be fantastic.
That is subjective.
Getting into a playoff where the bottom teams get killed is not fantastic.
And to sacrifice the regular season to accomplish this is a big gamble.
Hey... if those 10 seeds get to the finals, then I'm wrong. I just don't see it.
And if a team is excited about making a playoff where they get killed, it is no different than being excited about being ranked 10th in the old system.
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Awww poor baby doesn’t like the idea of a rematch.
Lol
Any team. Any time. Any place.
That's why we actually schedule good OOC opponents.
Instead of a playoff, it would be better for the sport to keep 8 conference games and actually make a better effort for more P5 matchups.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 2:06 pm to FlexDawg
He's not wrong, based on past playoff results.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 2:16 pm to bstew3006
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That’s old school thinking from when the AP crowned a NC before bowl games
No, it's modern day thinking based on the last 8 years. Sure, the #4 team has made the championship game a few times. But just look at the semifinal games that haven't been close. That speaks for itself.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 2:18 pm to bstew3006
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There’s no downside to expanding.
You mean, other than the #1 or #2 team losing their starting QB in a quarterfinal game that ends up being a rout?
Posted on 12/1/22 at 2:28 pm to dchog
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I hope it brings more parity to the sport. It has become boring.
It won't. The elite "brands" will be in there every year even when they're down. There will be teams occasionally making it in, but they have zero change of running the table because of the talent levels.
If TCU makes it this year then they have a better chance of winning 2 games than 4.
The elite teams will only get stronger.
It's all about money and NEVER FORGET money destroys everything.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 3:38 pm to Jjdoc
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Played and beat 5 ranked teams That included both Oklahoma, OSU. Played and beat both Kansas and KSU. Played and beat a ranked Tx.
Nothing about that was weak.
OU (6-6), OSU (7-5), KU (6-6), KSU (9-3) Nothing about that is impressive, either. They wouldn't have survived an SEC schedule.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 4:38 pm to TrussvilleTide
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A team with a history of dropping games they shouldn't
30-1 since the UF game in '20 w/a national title.
You're better than this, be better.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 4:40 pm to LG2BAMA
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Now with these super conferences the sec teams better embrace this new expanded playoff because undefeated or even one loss seasons are going to be harder and harder to come by.
Bingo
Posted on 12/1/22 at 7:13 pm to WG_Dawg
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The regular season currently means a whole frickton of a lot
I don’t understand this take. How is the regular season not going to mean more. More teams will be playing for something in November. They aren’t letting the top 25 in, it’s 12 teams. The CCGs may, they may mean less sine years, but most years they’ll be playing for a bye or Homefield advantage..
Right now we get to November and 10 teams are playing hit something.. starting in 2024, you could gave 30 teams playing for something., How us that not better?
Posted on 12/1/22 at 7:20 pm to 3rddownonthe8
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I don’t understand this take. How is the regular season not going to mean more. More teams will be playing for something in November. They aren’t letting the top 25 in, it’s 12 teams. The CCGs may, they may mean less sine years, but most years they’ll be playing for a bye or Homefield advantage..
Right now we get to November and 10 teams are playing hit something.. starting in 2024, you could gave 30 teams playing for something., How us that not better?
With a 12 team playoff, LSU vs A&M would be meaningless.
This isn't rocket science. If you don't get it, you don't want to get it.
UGA vs Tennessee didn't mean anything with a 12 team playoff.
The fun of college football is walking the tight rope and seeing how far into the season you can last until you fall off.
12 teams are not worthy of being #1.
That is why the trade-off (more teams in the playoff) is not worth it (all of those regular season games not having the same do or die importance as before).
Posted on 12/1/22 at 7:21 pm to Dawgfanman
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With the auto bid for p5 champs you might be and you are certain to get 3 loss teams
Using the format over the past playoffs, not 1 P5 champion would have had 4 losses. Only a couple had 3 losses. There are only 14 / 3 loss teams that would have gotten in at all. ZERO 4 loss teams at all.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 7:23 pm to FlexDawg
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I’m not sure there are more than four teams really worry of being national champions
There are only 2 even in the most competitive seasons.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 7:52 pm to meansonny
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If you don't get it, you don't want to get it.
I would say if you can’t see the benefit of the expanded playoff. Then your are just yelling at clouds. You’re pining for some old relegated yesteryear where coaches still teach and players are still just students.
There are 131 FBS teams, there have been 36 playoff spots counting this year. 24 of those 36 were taken by 5 schools.
The expanded playoff is going to cause College Football to have a boost in following nationally and worldwide. Playoffs is what others outside of our little world knows.
Yell at clouds now all you want, 3 years from now you’ll finally GET IT!
This post was edited on 12/1/22 at 7:53 pm
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:13 pm to FlexDawg
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But you really are the tournament champion. Are you the best team in the country? Not necessarily.
What the frick does this mean? Only the best 12 in the country will be invited. So if the 12 best teams are invited. How is the last team standing not the best team in the country?
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:19 pm to AG87
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think it hurts Bama, Georgia, Michigan, and Ohio State. Recruits can now pick other colleges knowing that 12 schools have the chance to play in the playoff.
And this is the exact reason why Bama, and Georgia fans and coaches will have a problem with it.
Just like NIL and the Portal. Saban and Kirby are both on record openly against NIL and the Portal. Even though they have the same ability as anyone else saban and smart hate it the most out of everyone. They want to keep the power and advantages for them at all cost if they can help it.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:28 pm to VolNavy98
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Just like NIL and the Portal. Saban and Kirby are both on record openly against NIL and the Portal.
Both have adapted to the changes very well, but I imagine every coach has a problem with it on some level.
Now, managing a roster is a hell of a lot harder for everyone, not just the 2 best coaches in the nation.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:57 pm to FlexDawg
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“But you really are the tournament champion. Are you the best team in the country? Not necessarily.
This is such a tiresome argument. There's no rule stating the "best" team must win the championship. In fact, in every single sport except college football, nobody even gives a shite about this, because its settled on the field.
"Best" is subjective anyway. It's why the games are played.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:04 pm to AG87
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I think it hurts Bama, Georgia, Michigan, and Ohio State
Not really.
UGA will virtually be in the playoff every year. There will be a chance that we win more championships.
It hurts the regular season.
Not uga.
Traditional football fans who worry about an upcoming saturday??? No longer need to worry. Because the regular season is not the post season.
From a fans perspective, August through November is a limp dick schedule.
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