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re: Georgia to decline NIT bid if offered

Posted on 3/11/18 at 4:20 pm to
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 3/11/18 at 4:20 pm to
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Same idea with the liberty bowl.


Not even remotely the same.

-Our coaching staff in 16 was coming back in 17, unlike this current basektball situation where everythign is in flux but the head coach is definitely gone
-You have a month of practice for football and you can get young guys and redshirts extra practice time. It is literally "extra" time that you would not get otherwise. An extra week of practices for the basketball team is in no way similar, like at all
-Bowl game you go to another location, no matter how non-exotic, you get a gift suite with some swag, you prep for a month against 1 opponent which in your example happened to be a good "name" team. For the NIT we'd practice for a week to play some scrub team mostly likely in stegeman, then have a couple days to prep for another non-exciting team at their place before getting drubbed.

I mean you honestly cannot even compare a football bowl game to the NIT.
Posted by DuncanIdaho
Ouray, CO
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 3/11/18 at 4:20 pm to
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And your opinion on Carlton Davis sitting out the Peach Bowl?


He didn't just "sit out" the Peach Bowl. He had a lingering injury and an illness and it wasn't in his best interest to play.

Why do you keep bringing up Auburn and the Peach Bowl in multiple basketball threads anyway?
This post was edited on 3/11/18 at 4:22 pm
Posted by xenythx
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/11/18 at 4:21 pm to
Where did Fox say Georgia would decline an invite? His quotes say he allowed the team to decide if he would coach them or not.
Posted by AUsteriskPride
Albuquerque, NM
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 3/11/18 at 4:21 pm to
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Competing is fun. Quitting is for losers


Yep, the worst mentality one could take, for sure. You do it once, it gets easier.
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 3/11/18 at 4:24 pm to
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Don't understand this at all.


Maten don't want to risk injury playing games that mean nothing with the NBA Draft coming up in June.
Posted by roger79
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Posted on 3/11/18 at 4:25 pm to
Straight from the Johnny Jones book of coaching. Dummies.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 3/11/18 at 4:25 pm to
My bad. Wrong season. Same idea as the bowl vs penn state. Coaches fired for being losers. It's not about the perks, but it is about the principles. You get invited, you should play.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 3/11/18 at 4:27 pm to
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Where did Fox say Georgia would decline an invite? His quotes say he allowed the team to decide if he would coach them or not.


He was quoted as saying he was talking to the team about the NIT. Yante Maten told him to leave the room for them to discuss. He did, and when he came back the players told him they didn't want to go to the NIT.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 3/11/18 at 4:31 pm to
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He didn't just "sit out" the Peach Bowl. He had a lingering injury and an illness and it wasn't in his best interest to play.

There was a month in between the SECCG and the Peach Bowl. (Give or take)

Auburn cornerback Carlton Davis, who coaches said battled an illness the week of the Peach Bowl, missed the postseason game because it was "his decision," former Tigers safety Tray Matthews revealed Tuesday at the Reese's Senior Bowl media day.

"I talked to him," Matthews said. "First off, I got onto him. 'Hey, man, I need you. You’ve been my dog the past three years and you’re going to leave me hanging like that?' Then he explained a few things. That’s his decision. I’ve got to respect it. He’s a first-round talent, so that’s on him."
LINK

TLDR
It was his decision and Tray Matthews at least insinuates Davis said he could have played but wanted to save himself.

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Why do you keep bringing up Auburn and the Peach Bowl in multiple basketball threads anyway?

This sin't "Basketball" thread as such. We are discussing players sitting out of a game/tournament/bowl. It may not have started that way, but it certainly has morphed into that. A couple of Auburn fans criticized players (not specifically Georgia, but players in general) for sitting out. If they are concerned about that, I am curious if they feel the same when it is an Auburn player deciding to sit out.
Posted by DuncanIdaho
Ouray, CO
Member since Feb 2013
14970 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 4:32 pm to
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“When I was home I had a sinus infection and I was really clogged up and I was taking antibiotics,” he said. “I thought going up there being around that football atmosphere would help settle me down but it kind of made it worse. … I didn’t feel like I was ready to go out there and compete at a high level.”
Posted by DuncanIdaho
Ouray, CO
Member since Feb 2013
14970 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 4:33 pm to
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This sin't "Basketball" thread as suc

And it absolutely is...about your basketball team specifically.
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
14793 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 4:33 pm to
What a pathetic move - when LSU did this two years ago I was enraged. To make matters worse, our brain dead AD let Jones stay another year. He should have been fired on the spot for turning down postseason play, an interim HC named for the NIT, and the scholarships pulled from any healthy player who didn't participate
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58913 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 4:34 pm to
Here is another article saying the same thing:

Carlton Davis' reason for missing the Peach Bowl wasn't wholly due to the undisclosed illness coach Gus Malzahn cited -- at least according to two Auburn defenders.

Former safety Tray Matthews and linebacker Tre' Williams, both of whom are in Mobile for the Senior Bowl this week, said it was Davis' "decision "to sit out the Peach Bowl prior to declaring early for the NFL Draft.
"I mean, it's all his decision," Williams said. "He's an adult now. I wish he played just to have that extra body, but once again it's his decision and I'm still going to root for him either way it goes."

While both players understood Davis' reasoning for sitting out the bowl game, Matthews said he wouldn't have done the same--even if he knew he was a potential first-round pick, though doing so has become commonplace among top NFL talents.

"We're built different," Matthews said. "If it was me, I would've still played because it was my last game with my boys. Maybe, give or take, you never know how somebody's feeling, though. You don't know how his body was feeling."

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This post was edited on 3/11/18 at 4:36 pm
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 3/11/18 at 4:35 pm to
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LSU did this two years ago I was enraged. To make matters worse, our brain dead AD let Jones stay another year.


and there's your difference. Fox and most of our assistants aren't gonna be here next year. It's "over" essentially for most of these people.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58913 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 4:38 pm to
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And it absolutely is...about your basketball team specifically.




Football and bowl games have been mentioned several times by others. However, the main criticism has been college players sitting out of games. Carlton Davis sat out a game. It fits. You might not like it, but it fits.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58913 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 4:40 pm to
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“When I was home I had a sinus infection and I was really clogged up and I was taking antibiotics,” he said. “I thought going up there being around that football atmosphere would help settle me down but it kind of made it worse. … I didn’t feel like I was ready to go out there and compete at a high level.”


Of course he is going to say something like that in public.
Did you not read what he was telling his teammates? Completely different story. There have been many, many players play with the flu and while throwing up, but Davis didn't play because he had a sinus infection and was clogged up?
Posted by DuncanIdaho
Ouray, CO
Member since Feb 2013
14970 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 4:40 pm to
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wasn't wholly due to the undisclosed illness


The key phrase. He was fighting an illness and recovering from a concussion suffered 3 weeks before.



Posted by DuncanIdaho
Ouray, CO
Member since Feb 2013
14970 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 4:42 pm to
I guess concussions aren't serious either...


Just admit you have been triggered by Auburn since you lost the NC. You brought this bullshite into another UGA basketball thread that had noting to do with players sitting out.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58913 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 4:45 pm to
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The key phrase. He was fighting an illness and recovering from a concussion suffered 3 weeks before.



So he went to the game (practices) with the intent to play with a concussion, or he had been cleared? I mean, if he had been cleared then he sat out. Period. he told his teammates he wasn't going to play because he was a first round pick, and they didn't like it, but they understood. Read the articles.

Look. I don't have anythign against him for sitting. I don't like it that the UGA basketball team isn't going to the NIT. However, an Auburn fan was criticizing players for sitting out games. that's fair. I don't liek it either. but, I was wondering how they felt about one of their own sitting out of a big bowl game. NY6 is a major bowl game.
This post was edited on 3/11/18 at 5:05 pm
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58913 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 5:10 pm to
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I guess concussions aren't serious either...
If he had a concussion, he could not have playd or practiced. he was cleared or he would not have been there.

quote:

You brought this bull shite into another UGA basketball thread that had noting to do with players sitting out.

Link? I don't believe i have.

Look. I played football. I payed with one guy that broke his hand, and he finished the game...then got a cast on his hand. The coaches wrapped his cast with foam rubber and he finished the year.

I played with another guy that split his head wide open just below the helmet. They called a doctor out of the stands and he was sewn up on the sideline with not pain killer and played the rest of the game. (High school)

We had a QB that had a hunting accident and was shot in the head. The team bought a special pressurized helmet for him and he played.

A sinus infection?

This was not meant as a shot at Auburn. You can believe it or not. I just think we have an awful lot of Auburn posters on here that take shots at people and players, but then want to backtrack and defend their own players for doing the same thing.

Gotta run. Sorry you were offended.
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