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Gator fans... Is the bloom off the rose on Mike White?

Posted on 1/16/19 at 7:17 am
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12350 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 7:17 am
...or is this just a bump in the road?

Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 7:18 am to
27-19


Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12350 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 7:29 am to
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cajunbama


27-19


What does that have to do with hoops. Damn, you're stupid. Plus, you're not a Gator.

FWIW, I thought White would do well at Florida and he may still do well. That's why I am asking. It wasn't a troll. Stop being a douche nozzle. Oh wait, you can't help it.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 7:34 am to
Some are in the wait and see. I like him as a person but he doesn't seem to have it as a coach. Last year that team regressed throughout the year after looking like a contender and every player but Hayes has regressed this year.

Not really buying into him much anymore he doesn't gameplan well, coach in game well, nor develop well.
Posted by NFLU
New Orleans, LA
Member since Aug 2014
5772 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 7:41 am to
44-16
Posted by UFMatt
Gator Nation - Everywhere
Member since Oct 2010
11435 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 7:50 am to
Well, his jump shot isn't what it used to be, he doesn't get back on D, but I still like him. As a coach, I am not seeing much improvement in the program.
Posted by bgator85
Sarasota
Member since Aug 2007
6021 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 7:52 am to
It’s going to be a rough year. No one could foresee Hudson falling off the face of the Earth. That’s tough to overcome against as difficult a schedule as we’ve played. White has a very highly touted class coming in to complement his current group of freshman that have played very well. All that to say, next year is a big year.
Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
30458 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 7:53 am to
My main concern, the players are regressing as they get deeper into their tenure. He can’t draw up offense at the end of games either, would be curious how many games of his tenure UF has led with 5-6 mins to go and the wheels completely fall off and they lose. It’s a pretty high percentage. I don’t think he makes it, but that’s just me.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 7:54 am to
Sadly agree
Posted by SeaCay
Odessa, FL
Member since Mar 2012
1722 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 8:07 am to
Yes, yes it is.

Bring back Eddie Munster!
Posted by footballtimeintn
Nashville
Member since Feb 2013
732 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 8:21 am to
I remember when Dave Hart tried to hire Mike White away from LA Tech and White turned it down because he didn't think much of the job.

Bet you he isn't thinking that now.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41188 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 8:52 am to
I'm off the bandwagon. Too nice for my taste. We have a great class coming in so it is going to be a year or two before the final verdict is in, so we will see. Too much talent on this team to be 9-7 imo.

Posted by MetryMauler
Member since Sep 2016
7132 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 9:00 am to
Once again, you prove you are not a true Bama fan, just a weak troller of LSU. Now you are bragging about Florida wins?

I would say please change your name to cajunflorida, but I'm sure they don't want anything to do with you either.
Posted by GatorBait24
Pensacola
Member since Jul 2016
5380 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 9:04 am to
I honestly don’t know, he’s got a great class coming in and he’s still young. If Twitter were around when Donovan lost to Manhattan in round 1 of the tournament in 04, Florida fans would have wanted him canned, and everyone knows what happened next. I’m in wait and see mode for next year. He hasn’t been bad enough to fire him this soon with so much upside in my opinion.
Posted by GatorBait24
Pensacola
Member since Jul 2016
5380 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 9:10 am to
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y main concern, the players are regressing as they get deeper into their tenure. He can’t draw up offense at the end of games either, would be curious how many games of his tenure UF has led with 5-6 mins to go and the wheels completely fall off and they lose. It’s a pretty high percentage. I don’t think he makes it, but that’s just me

That’s not true, Cheese, D-Rob, Hayes, Kasey Hill, Deaundre Ballard, and Dontay Basset have all gotten better under White. The last 3 games for Allen might be the best of his career. As far as X’s and O’s Out of the TO. He called a double switch against MSU and it worked beautifully, Allen should have taken his man to the basket. That’s just one example of players not executing the play design, which happens more with this group than I have ever seen at UF. He just found his footing in recruiting we have to give him a chance to upgrade the talent.
This post was edited on 1/16/19 at 9:11 am
Posted by MetryMauler
Member since Sep 2016
7132 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 9:17 am to
I think he is a good coach, just a down year.
Posted by GatorBait24
Pensacola
Member since Jul 2016
5380 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 9:20 am to
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hink he is a good coach, just a down year

I think he’s a decent coach right now that has the potential to be great. He’s certainly contributed to our struggles this year, but UF isn’t Kentucky sometimes a program has to let a coach grow. I think the way he’s recruiting buys him that for now.
This post was edited on 1/16/19 at 9:20 am
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 9:28 am to
When players don't execute, isn't that on the coach? I know Mac's players didn't execute. Do we blame Drisk and Brissett for their failures here or say they were never given a real shot because of the staff.

So why is it different here? Ballard and Hayes are the only players on our team right now you can legitimately say look improved from last year. How is a substantial amount of regression not on coaching?

He screwed the pooch last year. We took one of the best teams in the nation going up and down the court quickly and he forced them into a half court team. Which was the worst possible thing he could do. Remember how great this team looked vs Duke last year? Then suddenly fell apart. Watch the games. We lost because we let other teams determine the tempo. Any time we went full speed UF was the better team on the court. Yet we never forced the tempo.

Seeing the regression last year and the terrible game-planning of a very good team kind of burned me out on him. That team should have been much, much better than they were. Instead by the end of the year they were far worse than the beginning. Working at a slower pace, not playing to their strengths. It was simply bad coaching.
Posted by GatorBait24
Pensacola
Member since Jul 2016
5380 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 9:38 am to
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en players don't execute, isn't that on the coach? I know Mac's players didn't execute. Do we blame Drisk and Brissett for their failures here or say they were never given a real shot because of the staff. So why is it different here? Ballard and Hayes are the only players on our team right now you can legitimately say look improved from last year. How is a substantial amount of regression not on coaching? He screwed the pooch last year. We took one of the best teams in the nation going up and down the court quickly and he forced them into a half court team. Which was the worst possible thing he could do. Remember how great this team looked vs Duke last year? Then suddenly fell apart. Watch the games. We lost because we let other teams determine the tempo. Any time we went full speed UF was the better team on the court. Yet we never forced the tempo. Seeing the regression last year and the terrible game-planning of a very good team kind of burned me out on him. That team should have been much, much better than they were. Instead by the end of the year they were far worse than the beginning. Working at a slower pace, not playing to their strengths. It was simply bad coaching.

I watch every minute of every game, what you’re saying isn’t completely wrong. I would make the argument Coach White didn’t inherit half the talent our Football program has so that’s like comparing Apples and Oranges. Of course it’s on him when they don’t execute. However our 3 of our best players are Freshman right now and we have a class of re-enforcements coming. His offense doesn’t work with this group of players, that doesn’t mean he can’t continue to develop and get better like he has in Recruiting. I can’t think of a coach as young as him with as much upside, would you have fired Billy after year 5 in 04 when we lost to Manhattan in the 1st round? Where would our program be if we had been that reactionary and not let Billy grow into the job? Just a question?
Posted by GatorNation4Lyfe
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
6421 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 9:42 am to
I'm not a fan of White at all. I've seen enough to know that he's not cutting down any nets, anytime soon. His teams lose focus too many times in games. They can go up big only to have huge scoring droughts where everyone, including the coach cough up hairballs. I have not seen him coach up his players much. Many have regressed year after year. He loses too many games they should win. Think about that?

Foley fricked up with this hire. Once again, he went after the young, supposedly up and comer INSTEAD of hiring a PROVEN coach to take over the reigns of what was arguably the 2nd best program in the SEC. Mike White NEVER coached an NCAA tournament game and you hire him to be the head coach at Florida. Are you fricking kidding me? Foley should have hired an experienced coach that could take Florida to the next level, not learn on the fricking job, which White is doing 4 years later.

The Gators were firmly the #1 or #2 team in the SEC. White screwed the pooch pretty quickly. The door has blown open for many other teams to take that spot and they have. For as good as Foley was touted as an AD, he sure fricked up several times with bad hires in the most important sports.
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