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re: Gary Danielson: SEC Sacrificing its Soul at Alter of Offense
Posted on 7/14/15 at 3:38 pm to hawgfaninc
Posted on 7/14/15 at 3:38 pm to hawgfaninc
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football is a physical sport
running more football plays increases the chances for injury to happen
Hitting harder doesn't cause injuries.
Running more does.
Perfect.
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 4:12 pm to beatbammer
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Hitting harder doesn't cause injuries.
Running more does.
does auburn play a physical style of football?
does auburn run more plays than the average football team?
Posted on 7/14/15 at 4:17 pm to LandofDixie
But what does Vern think? Now that is what we really care about
Posted on 7/14/15 at 4:33 pm to hawgfaninc
quote:yes
does auburn play a physical style of football?
quote:Technically, yes.
does auburn run more plays than the average football team?
But it's a lot closer than you want to pretend.
The national average in plays/game in 2014 was 71.9. Auburn ran 72.2 plays per game.
Or a difference in 4 more plays over the course of the season than the average.
MSU was the highest SEC team at 77.
Vanderbilt the lowest at 61.7.
Arkansas ran 70.5 plays per game.
Posted on 7/14/15 at 4:38 pm to Herman Frisco
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He's talking about the high school O that teams are going to. The havenots have to do something to try to beat Big Brother.
You took the words right out of my mouth. Gary Danielson is absolutely right.
These high school offenses are ruining the league, and I hate watching them.
Not everybody is going to agree..
Posted on 7/14/15 at 5:01 pm to JCdawg
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These high school offenses are ruining the league, and I hate watching them.
I do, too. Those offensive numbers Alabama put up last year were great but I really hated how we lost discipline on defense as the season went on. That Auburn game was difficult to watch. We allowed 44 points to be scored on us in regulation. IN REGULATION. That's horrible.
Posted on 7/14/15 at 6:33 pm to undecided
Speak for yourself.
Posted on 7/14/15 at 7:09 pm to undecided
Screw that Gary, hiring defense first coaches sucks and only leads to boredom, frustration, anger and misery.
SEC football is about dropping 50 on everyone and asking them to match it, or at least our version of SEC football.
SEC football is about dropping 50 on everyone and asking them to match it, or at least our version of SEC football.
Posted on 7/14/15 at 7:10 pm to Buckeye06
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Danielson on the Sugar Bowl:
"I think Alabama should win handily."
And yes I know almost everyone predicted Bama to win but I've been mad since he went on a 3 hour rant about the SEC in 2006 to get Florida into the title game. UF should have been in the game no doubt but I was disgusted by the way he ranted during a game
I'd be disgusted if he cost my team a national title too.
Posted on 7/14/15 at 7:13 pm to undecided
We should have never added two schools from a pussy league. Having Auburn as the only Oregon clone was enough.
Posted on 7/14/15 at 7:16 pm to ljhog
Yes, because Auburn's offense is similar to Oregon's.
Posted on 7/14/15 at 8:12 pm to ljhog
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We should have never added two schools from a pussy league. Having Auburn as the only Oregon clone was enough.
Remember when Arkansas or before that Florida was the only Oregon school in the SEC.
As the stats in this thread show the HUNH isn't the problem. The rules are the problem. Allow DB's to jam more, occasionally enforce offensive pass interference, etc…All the offensive favored rule changes are what changed the game. Not the spread (been around since the 80's). Not the HUNH (been around since the 60's). The powers that be neutered the defenses for a simple reason.
Average fans, marginal fans prefer 55-44 games. Diehard fans buy the product no matter the score so the market share your after is the average/marginal fans. Offense is what brings them in…The NFL figured this out and CFB followed.
This post was edited on 7/14/15 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 7/14/15 at 9:30 pm to ljhog
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We should have never added two schools from a pussy league. Having Auburn as the only Oregon clone was enough.
Ya'll might wanna beat one of those two teams "from teh pussy league" BEFORE you talk any trash. I'm just sayin....bruh.
Posted on 7/14/15 at 10:58 pm to Tigerman97
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Remember when Arkansas or before that Florida was the only Oregon school in the SEC.
As the stats in this thread show the HUNH isn't the problem. The rules are the problem. Allow DB's to jam more, occasionally enforce offensive pass interference, etc…All the offensive favored rule changes are what changed the game. Not the spread (been around since the 80's). Not the HUNH (been around since the 60's). The powers that be neutered the defenses for a simple reason.
Average fans, marginal fans prefer 55-44 games. Diehard fans buy the product no matter the score so the market share your after is the average/marginal fans. Offense is what brings them in…The NFL figured this out and CFB followed.
Funny you should mention that. For all the bitching about the spread offense I see SEC fans do, it's really pretty funny. The air-raid spread offense was BORN in the SEC. It's Hal Mumme's offense from when he was at Kentucky. The HUNH spread offense changing the SEC is just your own chickens coming home to roost.
AND........there are only two teams, and therefore fan bases, in your league, that have any bizness talking trash about the HUNH spread offense being "a pussy offense" because they've earned the right to talk trash.....and that's LSU and Florida....in that order. They've demonstrated competency repeatedly in shutting it down. That's real talk.
Posted on 7/14/15 at 11:53 pm to mightysooner
I can only speak for myself - but the proliferation of offensive production by intentionally limiting defense has given college football a staged feel - like pro wrestling. If feels rigged. The game I love is no more. I don't watch as many games as I used to. The NCAA is handicapping defenses. Giving the offense 3 distinct advantages over the defense is too much - it's not a fair contest between offense and defense anymore. The element of surprise, control of tempo, and control over substitutions is too much advantage. All defenses can do is react - they can't aggressively call plays or get "best on best" to see who really is "THE BEST."
Posted on 7/15/15 at 12:11 am to IAmReality
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Average score of an NFL game is 27-18. Doesn't hold water.
Posted on 7/15/15 at 12:13 am to Crowknowsbest
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Defenses will figure it out. It takes time for teams to readjust the kind of players they're recruiting to match what opponents are running. The spread and HUNH are relatively new things among major southern programs. Recruits that used to be considered tweeners are now extremely valuable.
Yep. Saban has quietly - if that is possible ending at #1 in recruiting the last few years - has shifted his defensive strategy to getting more quicker, smaller guys coming off the edge. Hand and Evans are two examples. The defenses will catch up to the mickey mouse HUNH offenses before long and all will be back to normal. Smashmouth football will prevail once again.
Posted on 7/15/15 at 12:19 am to 12thFairway
Can't even fathom.
Posted on 7/15/15 at 4:36 am to rootisback
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But what does Vern think? Now that is what we really care about
Gary is far more intelligent than Vern. Gary's insight during games is pure brilliance IMO.
Posted on 7/15/15 at 7:22 am to JCdawg
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You took the words right out of my mouth. Gary Danielson is absolutely right. These high school offenses are ruining the league, and I hate watching them.
Not everybody is going to agree..
Sorry not sorry that you haven't been able to make it to a national championship game with your old, deformed offense that only a mother could love.
This post was edited on 7/15/15 at 7:49 am
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