Started By
Message
re: Gary Danielson: SEC Sacrificing its Soul at Alter of Offense
Posted on 7/14/15 at 9:42 am to undecided
Posted on 7/14/15 at 9:42 am to undecided
The SEC will always have teams on both sides of the philosophy, and that's the way it should be. I don't think anyone wants every team in the conference to play ground and pound football and let their defense win games. We need teams like Auburn and A&M to keep doing their thing. The difference in philosophies makes the games more fun.
Teams like Bama, LSU, UGA, etc. will always try to win games with their defense and run game.
Teams like Bama, LSU, UGA, etc. will always try to win games with their defense and run game.
0
Posted on 7/14/15 at 9:59 am to Jon Ham
quote:
I cannot stand the direction college football is going for the most part. All these hurry up, no huddle spread passing offenses and no defense. I know Petrino runs a spread, and has run quite a bit hurry up no huddle this year, and our defense has not always been up to par, but at least we have SOME defense and we implement SOME power run.
I'm glad the national championship is between two teams that have respectable styles of play. Two teams that win games in the trenches, with physical play, and with high caliber athletes throughout the offense AND defense.
The rest of college football can continue pussy-footing around with their high school-esque play; and I hope Arkansas soon joins LSU and Bama in their physical, dominating brand of football.
The day the SEC loses its identity and joins the rank of pussy arse football is the day I quit giving a frick about college football. If I want to watch a 57-49 game I'll play a game of NFL blitz on N64.
LINK
Looks like I got my wish with Bert.
<3 Bert
Posted on 7/14/15 at 10:04 am to undecided
quote:
It's funny seeing Arky fans suddenly switch their tune on offensive style when Petrino wasn't exactly known for his defensive prowess.
You guys didn't have an issue when Bobby was slinging the ball around but now that's Bert's brought his brand of big, slow football you guys are all about hard nose, physical play.
auburn fans loved seeing loeffler come in and bring real american football to the plains
Posted on 7/14/15 at 10:05 am to DuncanIdaho
quote:
I'll admit I was excited about Auburn going back to more of a pro-style game
Posted on 7/14/15 at 10:07 am to Jon Ham
quote:
It's funny seeing Arky fans suddenly switch their tune on offensive style when Petrino wasn't exactly known for his defensive prowess.
You guys didn't have an issue when Bobby was slinging the ball around but now that's Bert's brought his brand of big, slow football you guys are all about hard nose, physical play.
I have always thought Bert's brand of football was the way to go. We were sorta there with Nutt except he could never develop a QB or effective passing game to compliment the run and balance out the offense. Petrino's offenses were fun and effective, and often balanced, but his offense puts too much on the shoulders of a QB. You can't line up in shotgun and pass the ball 60%+ of the time against Bama or else your QB will eat dirt - just like Wilson and Allen did against Bama.
Posted on 7/14/15 at 10:13 am to undecided
quote:
Say what you want but Tubs appeared to hate scoring points when he was at Auburn. He was a defensive guy to the core but you look at his teams with Texas Tech and Cincinnati and he's done a complete 360.
Nice.
Posted on 7/14/15 at 10:22 am to dagrippa
Posted on 7/14/15 at 10:39 am to undecided
quote:
“The last 20 rule changes in college football have all been made to help the offense. It’s hard to get great stats as a defensive coach. It’s just the way it is.
Hard to argue with this.
So the SEC is adjusting to the rule changes as they should.
Posted on 7/14/15 at 12:19 pm to undecided
quote:
It's funny seeing Arky fans suddenly switch their tune on offensive style when Petrino wasn't exactly known for his defensive prowess.
You guys didn't have an issue when Bobby was slinging the ball around but now that's Bert's brought his brand of big, slow football you guys are all about hard nose, physical play.
You are right. Arkansas has always (for the most part) has been known as a running school. Sure there were a few coaches who liked to throw the ball more than others (Lou Holtz), but as for the rest (Frank Broyles, Kenny Hatfield, Danny Ford, Houston Nutt) were all run first coaches. All that time watching others have success running an exciting pass happy offense. When Bobby came in we were all on board. It was everything we thought it would be, but it's what we didn't think of that hurt us most. Defense. Plain and simple. I can't speak for everyone but I was glad to see us go back to our roots. I'm old enough to remember the days where win or lose no one enjoyed playing the Hogs because it was going to be physical for four quarters.
Posted on 7/14/15 at 12:29 pm to undecided
I usually don't agree with Danielson but he is 100% right on this.
Posted on 7/14/15 at 12:39 pm to undecided
Plus they refuse to call holding. Ohio St. had two holding calls all year.
College Football is becoming like the NFL, unwatchable.
College Football is becoming like the NFL, unwatchable.
Posted on 7/14/15 at 12:59 pm to undecided
Hes right. Bama has even caught this bug. The Auburn game last season was tough to watch.
Posted on 7/14/15 at 1:00 pm to undecided
How many points did Chavis give up to Auburn last year?
Posted on 7/14/15 at 1:27 pm to undecided
quote:
Gary Danielson
Over-the-hill dinosaurs still living in fear of The Advent of The New Age.
Sorry your way of life is dying, dinosaurs. Not gonna miss ya though.
Posted on 7/14/15 at 1:30 pm to sugatowng
quote:
As highly rated as these guys are, they won't have as much success under the spread as they did with power running teams...There is no way that Auburn 2015 will be more physical than say Auburn 2007.
That was probably the most physical defensive game I've been to in some time
Why is Bert in favor of increasing the physicality of the game?
Wouldn't that lead to a natural increase in player injuries?
Posted on 7/14/15 at 1:35 pm to Tuskkman
quote:
Plus they refuse to call holding. Ohio St. had two holding calls all year.
College Football is becoming like the NFL, unwatchable.
Holy crap, this is some deliciously funny irony right here.
Posted on 7/14/15 at 1:58 pm to undecided
I agree with him.
Posted on 7/14/15 at 2:04 pm to beatbammer
quote:
Why is Bert in favor of increasing the physicality of the game?
Wouldn't that lead to a natural increase in player injuries?
football is a physical sport
running more football plays increases the chances for injury to happen
This post was edited on 7/14/15 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 7/14/15 at 2:11 pm to undecided
quote:IMO Tubbs was way ahead of his time in hiring Tony Franklin as his OC at Auburn. Tubbs may have seen what college offenses were going to in the future back when he hired TF after the '07 season......Franklin of course didn't have the backing of the rest of the coaching staff and therefore failed miserably when his position coaches wouldn't get onboard with the HUNH/fast paced schemes.
Say what you want but Tubs appeared to hate scoring points when he was at Auburn. He was a defensive guy to the core but you look at his teams with Texas Tech and Cincinnati and he's done a complete 360. Football is cyclical. The spread, HUNH offense are popular now but there will likely be a completely differently style of play 10 years down the line.
But I think Tubbs was willing to make an overall change to offense. He just went about it the wrong way with the Franklin hire and AU folks weren't willing to wait through a transition year at AU while Saban was firing things up at Bama.
This post was edited on 7/14/15 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 7/14/15 at 2:17 pm to undecided
So Fat Bert was right all along????
....
NAAAHHHH! It's just that with both teams running more plays in games, there'll be less time between them for Danielson to break them down. Thus less time for him to talk. THAT'S why he's against it....
....
NAAAHHHH! It's just that with both teams running more plays in games, there'll be less time between them for Danielson to break them down. Thus less time for him to talk. THAT'S why he's against it....
Page 3 of 5
Popular
Back to top
Follow SECRant for SEC Football News