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Posted on 12/6/14 at 12:04 pm to CapstoneGrad06
First or second. Doesn't matter either way. UAB employs 23,000 people. That's a shite ton. No reason that an entity that size should not be independent and permitted to act in its own interest.
Posted on 12/6/14 at 12:05 pm to blzr
quote:And what about the year before?...and the year before that?
Lol they're top 5 in their conference in attendance. Their not in the SEC and shouldn't expect 70,000 to come to a game. They also had 30,000 for two other games this year.
The solutions talked about for UAB's problems aren't "yearly" but over many years of committed financial support. Over the years, if just hasn't worked out!
Posted on 12/6/14 at 12:07 pm to coachcrisp
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And what about the year before?...and the year before that?
Yea when they were forced to hire Neil Callaway it became stagnant surprise surprise.
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The solutions talked about for UAB's problems aren't "yearly" but over many years of committed financial support. Over the years, if just hasn't worked out!
Boosters set up a football foundation that the department would not take money from, this clearly isn't about support anymore.
Posted on 12/6/14 at 12:08 pm to HailToTheChiz
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I hope they get a bowl invite.
Would Alabama let them play in it?
Posted on 12/6/14 at 12:08 pm to APIEE
Why? It is the UA System. All three schools gain benefits from the System. Everyone here seems to have this understanding that UAB football has a impact on the Birmingham economy. Do you not think dissolving the System would have a much larger impact?
Posted on 12/6/14 at 12:09 pm to coachcrisp
Why did they wait til UAB started turning the corner? BOT could have killed the program 10 years ago when it was in a way worse spot
Posted on 12/6/14 at 12:11 pm to coachcrisp
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The solutions talked about for UAB's problems aren't "yearly" but over many years of committed financial support. Over the years, if just hasn't worked out!
Watts' plan for "solving" UAB's "problems" is to continue subsidizing the AD at the same rate as it is now, with yearly 3% increases. It's such a huge problem that they are committing to continue spending the same amount???? And forgoing the revenues derived as a result of CUSA membership?
Posted on 12/6/14 at 12:12 pm to blzr
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Boosters set up a football foundation that the department would not take money from, this clearly isn't about support anymore.
Link? That foundation is/was only about a month old. I'd be interested in seeing how much money they tried to give the school, as you claim.
Posted on 12/6/14 at 12:16 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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Do you not think dissolving the System would have a much larger impact?
I don't. How would it? Not flaming; I have heard people act like UAB being independent is somehow bad. No one has articulated a mechanism by which UAB is really hurt by this. Seems clear how they could benefit. I am not interested in the system existing for the system's own sake. We should be doing what is the best for the universities, communities, and the public. These are public institutions. FWIW, I would have zero issue with AU turning AUM loose, and it is far less of an independent institution that UAB is.
You might have some real reasons, but it seems as though there are a lot of UA folks that are reflexively defending the BOT. And doing so when it is not in their own or the state's best interest. This is not and should not be about UAT or the UA system or who gets credit for the medical school etc.
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Posted on 12/6/14 at 12:17 pm to Old Hellen Yeller
Clark has already met with city officials, and, according to the release, Filler is set to announce board members, comprised of fellow business leaders and former UAB student-athletes in the coming weeks.
"Anything which would enhance the profile of UAB, the state's largest employer, would also help the city and provide tremendous economic growth," Birmingham Mayor William Bell said. "The City of Birmingham will always support expansion efforts the Mayor went on to say, what is good for UAB is good for the city of Birmingham."
Primary among the UAB Football Foundation's initial aims will be raising funds for the construction of a state-of-the-art, on-campus practice facility.
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The executive director of the new UAB Football Foundation said his organization is prepared to raise $4-5 million in the next year and even more over the next decade to support the program.
UAB booster Jimmy Filler, in a press release, said the foundation's support will be based on three conditions
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"Anything which would enhance the profile of UAB, the state's largest employer, would also help the city and provide tremendous economic growth," Birmingham Mayor William Bell said. "The City of Birmingham will always support expansion efforts the Mayor went on to say, what is good for UAB is good for the city of Birmingham."
Primary among the UAB Football Foundation's initial aims will be raising funds for the construction of a state-of-the-art, on-campus practice facility.
LINK
The executive director of the new UAB Football Foundation said his organization is prepared to raise $4-5 million in the next year and even more over the next decade to support the program.
UAB booster Jimmy Filler, in a press release, said the foundation's support will be based on three conditions
LINK
Posted on 12/6/14 at 12:20 pm to blzr
Prepared to raise money. Nothing in the bank.
I think you may have exaggerated by insinuating UAB was refusing money. But that's par for the course in these discussions.
I think you may have exaggerated by insinuating UAB was refusing money. But that's par for the course in these discussions.
Posted on 12/6/14 at 12:21 pm to Old Hellen Yeller
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Prepared to raise money. Nothing in the bank.
Why would they give money when they wouldn't confirm there would be a program or not?
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I think you may have exaggerated by insinuating UAB was refusing money. But that's par for the course in these discussions.
I wasn't but okay.
Posted on 12/6/14 at 2:18 pm to imjustafatkid
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Enough Birmingham residents would go to see an SEC team play that it would likely still have a decent showing. 40,000 people would be my bare minimum guess, but that's still more than UAB draws. Birmingham just doesn't support the team. ETA: The night of the UAB "black out rally" to support football and attend the basketball game there was another protest across town about Mike Brown/police-on-black killings/whatever. Something actually relevant to Birmingham is going on downtown and people still don't care. It's not important to Birmingham's citizens.
I dunno. When I went back in 2011, it was nowhere near full. Of course, it was freezing cold.
Posted on 12/6/14 at 10:58 pm to CapstoneGrad06
I think it is time for UA and UAB to part amicably. I think they have outgrown being under one BoT.
I would think lots of UA folks would be okay with that.
I would think lots of UA folks would be okay with that.
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:03 pm to higgs_boson
Good, back on topic.
frick Bama.
#freeuab
frick Bama.
#freeuab
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:13 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
I just think one BoT no longer serves the universities that well. The legislation (not sure if introduced yet) wanted what? Five UA members on BoT Five UAB members on BoT and Five UAH members on BoT.
Pretty sure UA would rather part ways than let anything like that happen.
Do not know if legislation like that would pass, but if Jefferson County and Huntsville area were in agreement, that is a lot of votes.
Pretty sure UA would rather part ways than let anything like that happen.
Do not know if legislation like that would pass, but if Jefferson County and Huntsville area were in agreement, that is a lot of votes.
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:19 pm to higgs_boson
Nobody has better insights into the UA system than Auburn football fans.
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:23 pm to TideCPA
Like most Bama fans, most Auburn fans live in the same state as you and also didn't attend Alabama. So why would Bama fans have any better insight than us?
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:25 pm to TideCPA
Do you not consider UAB part of the system? It seems they have a pretty clear view of the situation. For that matter, the UA school paper wrote an editorial supporting autonomy for UAB.
Do not take UAB freedom as a stab at Alabama. It is just a question of if the relationship is still mutually beneficial.
There is a four minute video that gives Dr. Watts and the players/ donors time to speak rationally about the football program. LINK
Again, though, this is really about a lot more than football.
Do not take UAB freedom as a stab at Alabama. It is just a question of if the relationship is still mutually beneficial.
There is a four minute video that gives Dr. Watts and the players/ donors time to speak rationally about the football program. LINK
Again, though, this is really about a lot more than football.
This post was edited on 12/6/14 at 11:27 pm
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