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Posted on 12/2/22 at 1:18 pm to TideFaninFl
Posted on 12/2/22 at 1:18 pm to TideFaninFl
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Regardless I do not think 80% of the population is vaccinated.
Well . . .you have to file that one under sheer suspicion rather than a rational viewpoint.
I agree with the grey area nature of COVID deaths hence my comment above. Whether it was alleged (and unproven) financial interest or simply sloppy reporting, it would be very hard to tease out real conclusions given the myriad factors that ultimately cause death.
The vaccination process, however, is fairly simple and tracked very easily. You would have a much harder time proving fraud here.
But we live in a time when folks instantly swallowed election conspiracy lies based on all sorts of terrible statistical claims to support those views and subsequent comprehensive investigations that debunked most every claim.
Sometimes you have to have faith in institutions. Life is not the X Files. It is not all some grand conspiracy all the time.
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Posted on 12/2/22 at 1:26 pm to REBEL5 AC
Sorry you’re spineless
Posted on 12/2/22 at 1:33 pm to borotiger
I'm a big fan of listening to doctors.
I listened to my doctors regarding my Colon cancer and am now cancer free despite there being a 75% chance of death based on my initial prognosis.
I also listened to them with getting the flu shot and covid vaccines (they said that getting either the flu or covid with my immune system shot due to chemo would mean a likely death). I didn't end up getting either disease thanks to the vaccines... though in addition to getting vaccinated I also listened to their advice on masking and did that religiously.
So yeah... listening to doctors about health related stuff is a good decision in my opinion. Living is great.
I listened to my doctors regarding my Colon cancer and am now cancer free despite there being a 75% chance of death based on my initial prognosis.
I also listened to them with getting the flu shot and covid vaccines (they said that getting either the flu or covid with my immune system shot due to chemo would mean a likely death). I didn't end up getting either disease thanks to the vaccines... though in addition to getting vaccinated I also listened to their advice on masking and did that religiously.
So yeah... listening to doctors about health related stuff is a good decision in my opinion. Living is great.
This post was edited on 12/2/22 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 12/2/22 at 1:33 pm to Psycho Ray
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I have no rage. You do.
You're cursing and wishing ill (death?) on regular people in this thread. You're screaming at someone who has railed against the vaccine for kids dozens of times on this board that they advocated to take kids from their parents. Again, you need help and I'm not really joking or trying to be rude.
This isn't normal, and it won't fulfill you.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 1:40 pm to Whiznot
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I'm vaxxed and boosted with big regrets. Yeah, lots of people who thought that they were fine are dropping dead. A JAMA study reported that mRNA has been found in mothers' breast milk. mRNA has recently been discovered circulating in the blood of people who never took the jabs. The vaxx must be contagious with intimate contact.
Everything we were told about mRNA and the spike protein has been proved false. mRNA and spike protein can spill from the deltoid into plasma. Both can cross the blood brain barrier. mRNA has been discovered in the cell nucleus. The spike protein is toxic. No one can say how long mRNA and spike protein lasts in the body.
From my October 2021 Moderna booster, I'm mildly injured with dysautonomia and tinnitus. Many others are more seriously injured.
JFC, the education system in this country is completely broken. Maternal antibodies, transferred through colostrum, are a key part in keeping newborn babies healthy.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 1:47 pm to PassingThrough
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JFC, the education system in this country is completely broken.
It's fricking appalling. There's a bunch of people that couldn't pass an elementary school science test that think they know more than doctors and virologists. Or, they believe there's some kind of worldwide conspiracy. Either way, we're now a country of fricking morons.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 1:55 pm to Windy City
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The vaccination process, however, is fairly simple and tracked very easily. You would have a much harder time proving fraud here.
That is my point, since the numbers were skew for deaths by COVID, the numbers for the vax can be as well.
Why would they do that? In hopes that if they show a large percentage of people taking the shot it might convince others to take the vax or booster.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 2:05 pm to cajunbama
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All these Trump nut suckers most be terribly conflicted about the vax since it was literally his only accomplishment.
You really need to Google his accomplishments. It is pages....
Posted on 12/2/22 at 2:29 pm to Pettifogger
quote:No, that was the vaxxers.
You're cursing and wishing ill (death?) on regular people in this thread.
"The unvaccinate deserve to die."
"The anti-vaxxers should have their children taken."
"Anti-vaxxers should be confined to their homes."
"Either get the vaccine or lose your job/career."
"The unvaccinated should be denied medical treatment"...AND IN SOME CASES THEY WERE!
Does that sound familiar?
This post was edited on 12/2/22 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 12/2/22 at 2:42 pm to Nitro Express
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Many people are dying or becoming very sick from the shot, and those people were lied to by pharmaceutical companies, doctors, health organizations, and the government.
Yep
Posted on 12/2/22 at 2:43 pm to Psycho Ray
I'm a bit apathetic about the Covid vaccine but your meme below is a bit retarded. A lot of kids get their vaccines spaced out over a year or two with the use of boosters. Tetanus, Rotavirus, Hepatitis B, Polio to name a few. Are you saying those are not vaccines because it comes in multiple doses taken in less than a year? I'm sure people coming into the US that have never been vaccinated for any of those get multiple shots within a year.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 2:44 pm to TideFaninFl
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Many doctors were lied to so I do not blame them
This is very true, but how many of them just went along, even though they could see the evidence, just like we all could?
Posted on 12/2/22 at 2:45 pm to Teague
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I know you don't understand this, but some of us get our medical advice from doctors and not politicians.
If your doctor recommended it, then your doctor was the sheep who didn't do his homework/research and just accepted what was mainstream.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 2:47 pm to PassingThrough
mRNA isn't the antibody. mRNA is a blueprint for spike protein, the antigen that leads to antibody creation.
If you remember, it was claimed that our bodies would clear the mRNA in one week. Later that claim was scrubbed from the CDC website.
If you remember, it was claimed that our bodies would clear the mRNA in one week. Later that claim was scrubbed from the CDC website.
This post was edited on 12/2/22 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 12/2/22 at 2:48 pm to PeleofAnalytics
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I'm a bit apathetic about the Covid vaccine but your meme below is a bit retarded. A lot of kids get their vaccines spaced out over a year or two with the use of boosters. Tetanus, Rotavirus, Hepatitis B, Polio to name a few. Are you saying those are not vaccines because it comes in multiple doses taken in less than a year? I'm sure people coming into the US that have never been vaccinated for any of those get multiple shots within a year.
You are correct, there are many vaccines that you need booster shoots for.
Like I'm immune to the plague(unless you were in the military, or traveled to certain 3rd world countries, you are not). And it took 3 shots I think it was, like 6 months apart. So well over a year to get fully vaccinated.
However, the big difference between those vaccines and the covid-19 vaccines is that they are actually vaccines and covid-19 is not. It doesn't matter how many covid-19 shots you get, you are never going to be immune to it.
This post was edited on 12/2/22 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 12/2/22 at 2:51 pm to 3down10
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If your doctor recommended it, then your doctor was the sheep who didn't do his homework/research and just accepted what was mainstream.
Yes, you are the smart one. All the doctors in the world are dumb sheep.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 2:52 pm to Psycho Ray
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You have to be a fricking Democrat.
Do some research, you idiot. 58% of Americans who succumbed to coronavirus in the month of August were either vaccinated or boosted.
58%, you moron.
Yeah... Because half of the people that die of covid are 65 or older and 94% of people that are 65 and older are vaccinated in this country. Tell us you never took a stats class in your life without actually telling us you never took a stats class in your life. I mean this is like saying that since 90% of covid deaths are from right handed people, it must mean you are more likely to die if you are right handed. FFS.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 2:55 pm to 3down10
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However, the big difference between those vaccines and the covid-19 vaccines is that they are actually vaccines and covid-19 is not. It doesn't matter how many covid-19 shots you get, you are never going to be immune to it.
You can play with semantics about what is and what isn't a "vaccine". I'd be willing to bet most doctors will call it a vaccine but I really don't have a study to verify it. And I doubt there are any virologist on this board to give us an actual educated answer on this. My original point is, taking something multiple times a year does not make something cease to be a "vaccine".
Posted on 12/2/22 at 2:56 pm to Psycho Ray
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If you hadn't been a sheep. You wouldn't have been shorn. No sympathy for anyone who took the vax, other than children with idiotic parents.
This is a bit extreme. I have friends who were never in favor of pushing the vaccine on other people, and only got it themselves under pressures from work and things like that.
I understand the hostility towards those who tried to impose draconian laws and used the situation to gain more power, but your brush is way too broad.
I'm just glad I was in a situation where the only pressure that was ever applied to me were those extreme leftist and a media I figured out was bullshite decades ago, so I never even came close to taking it.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 2:57 pm to PeleofAnalytics
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Yeah... Because half of the people that die of covid are 65 or older and 94% of people that are 65 and older are vaccinated in this country. Tell us you never took a stats class in your life without actually telling us you never took a stats class in your life. I mean this is like saying that since 90% of covid deaths are from right handed people, it must mean you are more likely to die if you are right handed. FFS.
I know you're a stupid fricking jackass, because you were stupid enough to take the jabs.
Let me explain the point to your incredibly stupid self.
I have never had Polio. Why? Because I am vaccinated. I never had Smallpox. Why? Because I am vaccinated. Actual vaccines that work.
"Covid vaccinated" people are dying in droves with Covid. Why? Because it is not an actual vaccine and it does not work, you fricking moron. Glad I could clear that up for you.
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