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re: Former Alabama player Quinton Dial showing off his patriotic side tonight

Posted on 9/13/16 at 1:25 am to
Posted by 12thFairway
Member since May 2015
745 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 1:25 am to
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There are over 40 million black people in the US and less than 800,000 police officers. By sheer number of volume alone there is going to be more killing of blacks by blacks than cops by blacks.

Blacks go to jail when they kill blacks. Cops get paid vacations.

I don't know what point you are trying to prove, pretending like blacks aren't treated differently by law enforcement is disingenuous.

I would also be interested in hearing you explain away how whites are much more likely to sale drugs, but blacks are twice as likely to be arrested for it. The disparity in sentencing is down right criminal as well.

I don't know what the solution is, but trying to silence those who speak out against it because you are annoyed or uncomfortable is not helping.


There are 3 times as many whites. Are you saying cops get paid vacations for killing blacks? If you are you're crazy. African Americans commit more crimes per-capita than whites. They commit half the murders in American yet they are only 13% of the population. Blacks are treated differently because they are more likely to rob and kill you. Cops go where the crime is and a much higher percentage of crimes are committed by blacks than whites.
This post was edited on 9/13/16 at 1:26 am
Posted by GatorNation4Lyfe
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
7660 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 1:41 am to
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Blacks are treated differently because they are more likely to rob and kill you

This is ignorantly wrong. If you are white, you are most likely to be killed by a white person. White people also commit more violent crimes than anyone else. Yes, black men are killing other black men at a disturbing rate BUT you are more likely to be a victim of a violent crime by a white man if you are white. Get your facts straight...
Posted by GatorNation4Lyfe
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
7660 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 1:44 am to
Yes, the majority of these police officers involved in these killings are put on paid administrative leave (basically paid vacation).

Police killed at least 102 unarmed black people in 2015, nearly twice each week. (See which police departments were responsible for these deaths)

Nearly 1 in 3 black people killed by police in 2015 were identified as unarmed, though the actual number is likely higher due to underreporting

37% of unarmed people killed by police were black in 2015 despite black people being only 13% of the U.S. population

Unarmed black people were killed at 5x the rate of unarmed whites in 2015

Only 10 of the 102 cases in 2015 where an unarmed black person was killed by police resulted in officer(s) being charged with a crime, and only 2 of these deaths (Matthew Ajibade and Eric Harris) resulted in convictions of officers involved. Only 1 of 2 officers convicted for their involvement in Matthew Ajibade's death received jail time. He was sentenced to 1 year in jail and allowed to serve this time exclusively on weekends. Deputy Bates, who killed Eric Harris, will be sentenced May 31.
Posted by 12thFairway
Member since May 2015
745 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 2:09 am to
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Yes, the majority of these police officers involved in these killings are put on paid administrative leave (basically paid vacation).

Police killed at least 102 unarmed black people in 2015, nearly twice each week. (See which police departments were responsible for these deaths)

Nearly 1 in 3 black people killed by police in 2015 were identified as unarmed, though the actual number is likely higher due to underreporting

37% of unarmed people killed by police were black in 2015 despite black people being only 13% of the U.S. population

Unarmed black people were killed at 5x the rate of unarmed whites in 2015

Only 10 of the 102 cases in 2015 where an unarmed black person was killed by police resulted in officer(s) being charged with a crime, and only 2 of these deaths (Matthew Ajibade and Eric Harris) resulted in convictions of officers involved. Only 1 of 2 officers convicted for their involvement in Matthew Ajibade's death received jail time. He was sentenced to 1 year in jail and allowed to serve this time exclusively on weekends. Deputy Bates, who killed Eric Harris, will be sentenced May 31.

You're completely brainwashed trying to brainwash others. Context matters and the context of your blather is missing. Per-capita violent crime is 500% greaterfor male African Americans than white males. A black male is 13 times more likely to kill or be killed with a gun than a white male.
This post was edited on 9/13/16 at 2:10 am
Posted by GatorNation4Lyfe
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
7660 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 2:16 am to
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Per-capita violent crime is 500% greaterfor male African Americans than white males. A black male is 13 times more likely to kill or be killed with a gun than a white male.


So you don't think Kapernick has a valid reason to protest??? Do you have a point? Because you are proving Kapernicks...
Posted by GatorNation4Lyfe
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
7660 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 2:21 am to
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You're completely brainwashed trying to brainwash others.

Did you read what I posted??? 102 unarmed black people were killed by police. Only 1 officer in all these cases did jail time.... ONE. and he only served 1 year in jail on the weekends. And you think I'm brainwashed? Why aren't you outraged over this?
Posted by GarnetStrand
Myrtle Beach
Member since Sep 2016
1189 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 3:10 am to
You aren't good with percentages are you? Btw don't look at interracial crime, you won't like what you see.
Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
54003 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 4:05 am to
Right on
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 4:36 am to
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Yea frick kaepernick for protesting equality for others...the nerve of that guy


idiot, you do not know what the frick you are talking about because he doesn't know what he is protesting about

Seriously, WTF is the en goal?
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
72484 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 4:47 am to
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star player on the 2011 and 2012 Alabama national championship teams, and now a member of the 49ers, Dial obviously doesn't stand with Kaepernick.



While I bleed orange and blue, for Mr. Dial... Roll Damn Tide!
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
70262 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 5:32 am to
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Quinton Dial



Posted by DawgGONIT
Member since May 2015
2961 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 6:06 am to
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Yes, we have issues with policing in America, primarily in the follow on training aspect. However, if he really wanted to highlight a legit problem, why not focus on trying to change these statistics.


CK does have a point that cops are a problem shooting and killing people first, then gathering the information later. PLENTY OF EXAMPLES!!! Black people, white people, it don't matter to cops. There was a kid in GA who was in High school and in ROTC, and one day he answered the door while playing his Wii, only to open the door and get shot in the stomach by a woman cop serving a warrant for his dad (who didn't live there). This same woman already shot a black boy for trying to remove his book bag, which she asked him to do.

There are plenty of examples like this, and the worst part is she never got fired but got a paid vacation. PLENTY OF EXAMPLES OUT THERE.



LINK

white guy

Cop executed guy leaving wrecked vehicle, white guy too

Cop killing vicious dogs just in time

More cops shooting people for no reason
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68486 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 6:09 am to
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frick kaepernick tpos.

And the other "protestors"......oh yeah frick the NFL. How you like that counter protesting shite NFL? Isn't freedom wonderful?
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
19998 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 6:40 am to
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Blacks go to jail when they kill blacks. Cops get paid vacations.


What a tired refrain. First off tell me the homicide clearance rate in Houston or even Chicago....that +6,0000 is just the people they caught. Now I am not an LE but unfortunately I have had to be in "you or me" situations. The difference was mine didn't deal with US citizens and I had significant back up. Having been there to hear you say they get a vacation is laughable. You'd have to be one sick puppy to wax somebody and not have remorse.

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I would also be interested in hearing you explain away how whites are much more likely to sale drugs, but blacks are twice as likely to be arrested for it. The disparity in sentencing is down right criminal as well.


Have I said that the police are perfect? If so please by all means show me? I actually think the sentencing guidelines are stupid as hell especially 3 strikes and anything dealing with marijuana.

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I don't know what the solution is, but trying to silence those who speak out against it because you are annoyed or uncomfortable is not helping.


Not trying to silence shite. I am trying to show how utterly stupid this media generated crap is compared to a real problem. How people want to scream about "all these unarmed black men that are systematically being executed by police". How saying "they murdering us and getting vacations" is a white-wash when on an annual basis AA on AA crime kills more people than died in the 2nd Gulf War. Yes the there needs to be improvement in policing and less than lethal alternatives. But the real issue hasn't been addressed and I want to know why?
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
19998 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 6:53 am to
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Cops go where the crime is and a much higher percentage of crimes are committed by blacks than whites.


This is the sad truth that is being glossed over. Cops go where the crime is. Fix the crime issue and you likely fix a host of other issues. But instead of being accountable let's focus on something that is statistically minuscule.
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10313 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 7:05 am to
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Yes, we have issues with policing in America, primarily in the follow on training aspect. However, if he really wanted to highlight a legit problem, why not focus on trying to change these statistics.


This is man gets it. The black community and it's so called leaders should focus on these glaring statistics and teach their people when a cop tells you something you do it. You can't win a argument with them. I had trouble as a young man some arrests because I wouldn't keep my mouth shut and cooperate. My dad told me time and time again shut up fight it in court. I finally learned that and stopped having issues. What are black leaders doing besides marching and hanging out with Politicians? Are they demanding better schools more jobs in their communities from the political leaders. When was the last time a candidate went to the hood to see what they could help with. The sent jobs overseas for years now. Maybe putting people to work would get them off the streets.
Posted by GatorNation4Lyfe
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
7660 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 7:50 am to
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I had trouble as a young man some arrests because I wouldn't keep my mouth shut and cooperate


and yet you are here in this forum alive and well to talk about it. Do you see the irony??? We all were young and dumb and maybe even rebel against authority. Should you lose your life as a result? Your trying to tell kids to do what you didn't do...

and the narrative that drug dealing blacks killing other drug dealing blacks is a bigger issue, so blacks should ignore every other issue is stupid. The black community just like the entire society has a plethora of issues. Who are you to tell people what they should be concerned about? You might not care about saving the whales or mothers against drunk driving but what gives you the right to tell people that they shouldn't care either???
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
155266 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 7:58 am to
The NFL looked like it was holding Black Panther Party meetings all weekend.

I'm done with the NFL. Actually, I've been done with most pro-sports for a while now.
Posted by BhamDore
Nashville
Member since Aug 2009
6503 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 8:01 am to
An American citizen is more likely to be killed by law enforcement than a terrorist. We still waged war on terror and spent 2 trillion + dollars. We have done nothing to address police brutality. People are asking why?

Black on Black crime is always a big problem. It just seems to be brought up to change the narrative or to justify cops not being held accountable.

Unarmed people should not be killed by those sworn to serve and protect them. The threshold for proving your life was actually in danger is so miniscule for law enforcement.

Its not media driven. It's real life for a lot of people who have finally gotten what they have been going through to the masses due cell phone cameras and social media.

No other 1st world country on the planet has this problem.
Posted by parrothead
big salty ham
Member since Mar 2010
5131 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 8:02 am to
The only difference in Colin Kaepernick and Donald Trump is ", again." I love how a comma and the word again means getting your head ripped off and potentially being president.
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