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re: Former Alabama player Quinton Dial showing off his patriotic side tonight

Posted on 9/13/16 at 8:43 am to
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
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Posted on 9/13/16 at 8:43 am to
No the ones around here look like they could take on over half the population no problem. You live in Houston start observing the average height and weight of the cops here.
Posted by GatorNation4Lyfe
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
6426 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 8:45 am to
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Sorry. But I am going to have to see a link that supports this statement. I find this very difficult to believe.


See, that is a problem. You do not believe that the people that are sworn to protect us can do any wrong. The facts show that police officers are 3 times more likely to domestic violence than NFL players and yes 40% abuse their families. A simple google search...

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Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58962 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 8:45 am to
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No, but that doesn't mean people should sit idly by if they think there is inequality somewhere.


Agreed. So what are you, or CK doing about inequality for Native Americans, or gays, or Muslims, or the countless other groups?

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It's creating a conversation on the topic, and maybe opening some eyes, so I wouldn't say it is doing absolutely nothing.


No it's not. It is creating criticism. I have seen nothing of note on the subject he is protesting about.
I have seen plenty of discussion on what he is doing....nothing about the subject.
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 9/13/16 at 8:46 am to
Posted by GatorNation4Lyfe
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
6426 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 8:48 am to
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No the ones around here look like they could take on over half the population no problem. You live in Houston start observing the average height and weight of the cops here.

I live in Houston... What's wrong with this picture? The 2 woman are taller than the 2 men and about the same height of the 3rd officer. Do you want me to pull up more pictures of HPD???



Posted by Barneyrb
NELA
Member since May 2016
5154 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 8:49 am to
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However, none of that will matter if it's just the cops that are expected to do better. If folks don't treat them with respect, don't behave better and don't make any attempt to be better then this is all for naught.


I agree, what part of get down on the ground with your hands behind your back do these guys not understand? That simple statement does not mean you will be arrested but you will not be in a position to confront the cops. It's the safety of everyone involved that the cops are trying to insure.

Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58962 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 8:49 am to
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See, that is a problem. You do not believe that the people that are sworn to protect us can do any wrong.


Oh, really? And you know this how?


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The facts show that police officers are 3 times more likely to domestic violence than NFL players and yes 40% abuse their families. A simple google search...



And if you read my post, you would have seen the response to this. There have been many studies using various criteria. Some back up what you say....some dispute what you say. There is not doubt there is a higher rate of domestic violence among police officers over the general public, though. And, if you look closely, you will find this to be true in almost (If not every) stressful job in the country. Stress on the job eems to be directly linked to domestic violence.

But make no mistake about it....I am not blind to the problems among our police force. For you to assume such is wrong.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58962 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 8:51 am to
Dude. Photography is my hobby. The placement of the people in the picture effects the appearance of height.

And you are going to use one picture to try to prove that the majority of police officers are shorter/smaller than women?


Your credibility just went down the drain.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90739 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 8:57 am to
Just wanted to reiterate, and address the purpose of this thread.

Major props to Dial. Appreciate his courage to do what he did and the respect he gave to veterans and 9/11 victims and America in general yesterday. He gets, that the flag represents what is good about America. He is a role model for folks and the organization should be stumbling over themselves thanking him for representing them in a class way.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58962 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 9:00 am to
Props to him, and you absolutely correct. He is conducting himself in a sensible, correct way. He should be praised.
Posted by GatorNation4Lyfe
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
6426 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 9:01 am to
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That is not based on any fact anywhere, by any independent or university study.

Nope, just my general observation but many departments have reduced or eliminated height and weight requirements to join the force. I see more male officers shorter than female and the bigger officers are most likely fat and overweight. Does this have an effect on their success as an officer. Yes it does. There has been research done on this subject of height and weight of officers and how they perform their duties.

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Posted by GatorNation4Lyfe
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
6426 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 9:06 am to
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There have been many studies using various criteria. Some back up what you say....some dispute what you say.


So you found studies that backed up the 40% but you also found studies that said 25%. How is that disputing what I said? Does it really matter if it's 25 or 40. When by your assertion, 1 out of 4 police officers families have domestic abuse issues that is a high amount. I'm not trying to blame the police or make them out to be evil but WE as a community have a lot of issues that are just not black or white.
Posted by GatorNation4Lyfe
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
6426 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 9:09 am to
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Dude. Photography is my hobby. The placement of the people in the picture effects the appearance of height.

Only one officer in this picture is over 6 feet...


This post was edited on 9/13/16 at 9:10 am
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58962 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 9:10 am to
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So you found studies that backed up the 40% but you also found studies that said 25%. How is that disputing what I said? Does it really matter if it's 25 or 40. When by your assertion, 1 out of 4 police officers families have domestic abuse issues that is a high amount. I'm not trying to blame the police or make them out to be evil but WE as a community have a lot of issues that are just not black or white.


You have a knack for pulling parts of my post out and ignoring other parts, don't you? I guess you missed the part about all or most stressful jobs have a higher domestic violence rates. Why pick out police officers? Why not Air Traffic controllers? Doctors? Airline pilots?

Flash. They have a higher rate of alcoholism and suicide, too. Stress on the job does that to people.
This post was edited on 9/13/16 at 9:11 am
Posted by GatorNation4Lyfe
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
6426 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 9:12 am to
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Why pick out police officers? Why not Air Traffic controllers? Doctors?

Because the discussion is about police officers. Feel free to start an air traffic controllers beating their wives thread if you like...


The bottom line is that if 25% or 40% of officers are beating their wive's/girlfriends, isn't it likely that maybe one or two of them have anger issues??? This is not bash on the police day but at least have an open mind to what some of these people are protesting about.
This post was edited on 9/13/16 at 9:16 am
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58962 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 9:12 am to
Yet all but one is taller than the woman in the picture. Amazing.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58962 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 9:13 am to
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Because the discussion is about police officers. Feel free to start an air traffic controllers beating their wives thread if you like...


Yes, and my point is this is not unusual for high stress jobs. You are insinuating that all of this is because they are short?
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58962 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 9:13 am to
(Reuters Health) - About 15 percent of surgeons have alcohol abuse or dependency problems, a rate that is somewhat higher than the rest of the population, according to a new survey.

The researchers also found that surgeons who showed signs of alcoholism were 45 percent more likely to admit that they had a major medical error in the past three months.

"Surgery is a stressful business. There are people who turn to alcohol to help deal with their stress," said Dr. Edward Livingston, a professor at the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center, who was not involved in the study.

Imagine.
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Posted by GatorNation4Lyfe
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
6426 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 9:19 am to
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Yes, and my point is this is not unusual for high stress jobs. You are insinuating that all of this is because they are short?


No, I'm just generalizing and of course it's just not because they are short but damn when did the police become midgets? and not just in Houston. I'm seeing a growing trend of little people police officers. lol
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 9/13/16 at 9:23 am to
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BhamDore

You are obviously a thoughtful person. These types of conversations can only be furthered, in my opinion, when speaking thoughtfully towards others and considering their side of the issue. To that end, I invite you to consider:

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An American citizen is more likely to be killed by law enforcement than a terrorist. We still waged war on terror and spent 2 trillion + dollars. We have done nothing to address police brutality. People are asking why?


One of these issues is potentially existential and, if not properly address, could literally lead to a 3rd WW. It must be addressed with an incredible sense of urgency and it impacts not just Americans, but peaceful citizens all over the world. The other (police brutality) also must be addressed, but your assertion that an American citizen is more likely to be killed by law enforcement than a terrorist assumes equal innocence of the victim of a terrorist attack to the victim of police brutality. Often, the victim of police brutality is not blameless in the situation they find themselves in. Just off the top of my head, the individual in Missouri, Minnesota, and Baton Rogue all had long criminal records and were known to the police who, rightfully, were on guard at the onset of their interaction with those individuals.

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Black on Black crime is always a big problem. It just seems to be brought up to change the narrative or to justify cops not being held accountable.

I agree with you here to an extent, but if you want the rest of the citizenry of American to fully empathize with the movement of Black Lives Matter, then you MUST show that Black Lives Matter regardless of who is the offending group. At present, it appears that Black Lives Matter when attacked or killed by white police is the true motivation behind the movement.

Shouldn't also Black Lives Matter when in the womb? Black abortion rates are 5x that of Caucasians. Shouldn't Black Lives Matter in the African American communities, where the rate of Black on Black crime over-indexes the race on race crime rates of white, Asian, or Hispanics.

Shouldn't the lives of unwed Black Mothers and their Children matter to the "men" who impregnate them and then abandon them at unacceptably high rates? over 70% of African American births are to an unwed mother and more than 67% of African American children will go to sleep tonight in a fatherless home.

Show the world that Black Lives Matter ALL THE TIME and it becomes a human issue, a heart issue - not simply a race issue.

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