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re: For College Football to Survive, Saban Needs To Retire
Posted on 1/6/19 at 12:22 pm to Paul Maul number 37
Posted on 1/6/19 at 12:22 pm to Paul Maul number 37
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Actually, I am being serious. Lack of competition has totally ruined women's college basketball. UCONN might be the only school enjoying the sport. Everyone else could give a shite.
Because women's basketball was SO entertaining before UConn.
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College football is no different and if the same team keeps winning everything every year or being put in the CFP whether they win their conference or even their division or not,
Yeah I know you're talking about Alabama, but ohio state got in over Penn state and Penn state beat them head to head AND won the conference. That's a bigger travesty than Bama getting in along with the conference champion. But I forgot, it's not Alabama so you dont care.
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Perhaps scholarship limits are part of the answer whereby the quality is spread around a little bit more.
Yep, reduce the number or scholarships that kids can get. Just less kids able to go to college. Guess what......the same teams would still dominate. Reducing the amount of scholarships wouldn't keep the good teams from gettin been the good players. Just leave less of them for the other schools that you want to "help."
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Saban, if he passes the bear in championships, should respectfully say "I have done enough" and step aside for the overall good of the sport. If he does this, his legacy will be revered rather than despised.
I'm sure people just hate and have no respect for Wooden after how he dominated college basketball. This is the dumbest thing I've ever read. Which is impressive considering all of the dumb shite you've said in this thread.
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There has to be a point where enough is enough and beyond that point is simply selfish madness by the one perpetrating the harm.
Looks like you're the selfish one. Crying because big mean Alabama wins too much and its not fair.
How about this....frick the rest of college football. I'm an Alabama fan. I don't give a frick who is upset that we win. Cry. I just enjoy it even more. If it kills college football then so be it.
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Posted on 1/6/19 at 12:24 pm to Paul Maul number 37
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Saban, if he passes the bear in championships, should respectfully say "I have done enough" and step aside for the overall good of the sport.
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Does Saban want to be remembered as a legend or a lunatic
Posted on 1/6/19 at 2:13 pm to bamaboy87
"Yeah I know you're talking about Alabama, but ohio state got in over Penn state and Penn state beat them head to head AND won the conference. That's a bigger travesty than Bama getting in along with the conference champion. But I forgot, it's not Alabama so you dont care."
I agree that it was worse. There isn't Ohio State fatigue going on in the game. If the CFP can eliminate the possibility of two teams from a conference as well as rematches of two teams who had played in the regular season, and then award bonus points to conference champions, it would fix a lot of this.
Two teams meet in the regular season. REWARD the winner of that game with a spot and ELIMINATE the loser from consideration unless there are special circumstances which allow it. Tie-breakers go to conference champions rather than teams who did not win their conference. Had these rules been in effect, Alabama fatigue would not have happened.
"Reducing the amount of scholarships wouldn't keep the good teams from getting the good players"
It would REDUCE the number of good players they could hog for themselves which means these extra good players could be available to other programs. Alabama recruits many kids just to keep them from other teams rather than play them. That's how bad it's gotten.
I agree that it was worse. There isn't Ohio State fatigue going on in the game. If the CFP can eliminate the possibility of two teams from a conference as well as rematches of two teams who had played in the regular season, and then award bonus points to conference champions, it would fix a lot of this.
Two teams meet in the regular season. REWARD the winner of that game with a spot and ELIMINATE the loser from consideration unless there are special circumstances which allow it. Tie-breakers go to conference champions rather than teams who did not win their conference. Had these rules been in effect, Alabama fatigue would not have happened.
"Reducing the amount of scholarships wouldn't keep the good teams from getting the good players"
It would REDUCE the number of good players they could hog for themselves which means these extra good players could be available to other programs. Alabama recruits many kids just to keep them from other teams rather than play them. That's how bad it's gotten.
Posted on 1/6/19 at 2:26 pm to bamaboy87
"How about this....frick the rest of college football. I'm an Alabama fan. I don't give a frick who is upset that we win. Cry. I just enjoy it even more. If it kills college football then so be it."
Total out of control addiction personified.
Total out of control addiction personified.
Posted on 1/6/19 at 2:32 pm to Paul Maul number 37
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. If the CFP can eliminate the possibility of two teams from a conference as well as rematches of two teams who had played in the regular season, and then award bonus points to conference champions, it would fix a lot of this.
Why? If you're one of the 4 best teams you should be in the playoffs. Conference champions are nice. Sure. But let's not pretend all conferences are equal. Should a 3 or 4 loss conference champion make it in over a 1 loss team that slipped up in one game and missed their conference championship? Because that's what will eventually happen if they go the "only conference champions" route. If the two teams have the same record and one won their conference, sure go ahead and pick that team.
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It would REDUCE the number of good players they could hog for themselves which means these extra good players could be available to other programs. Alabama recruits many kids just to keep them from other teams rather than play them. That's how bad it's gotten.
I'm pretty sure Saban doesn't spend his time thinking about who he can keep away from other schools.
You're still taking a chance at college away from hundreds of kids if you do that. And on top of that, the smaller the roster the less you have for backups. You'll see more injuries in the long run.
Just how many scholarships would you recommend each school have? It's already at 85. You want 35? Or should it be different for each school? Alabama only gets 35 scholarships while less powerful teams get 45?
Posted on 1/6/19 at 2:34 pm to Paul Maul number 37
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Total out of control addiction personified
You dont even realize that you're so addicted to seeing your team win that you're demanding another teams coach resign because he wins too much. You're SO desperate to stop him that you're proposing reducing scholarships.
Posted on 1/6/19 at 2:45 pm to bamaboy87
"You dont even realize that you're so addicted to seeing your team win that you're demanding another teams coach resign because he wins too much. You're SO desperate to stop him that you're proposing reducing scholarships."
My argument isn't about LSU winning anything. It's simply that college football itself is being harmed by one particular team winning everything every year. It has gotten old and is starting to cause a massive loss of interest all over the country.
Some of this is due to the fact that they can recruit so many of the best players to begin with. Also, they recruit so many top notch players with no intention of playing them but with the sole intention of denying other schools the ability to have them. A reduction in scholarships would help address this.
Enough Alabama. Let's all hope they don't win another championship tomorrow night or at least if they do that Saban comes to his senses and listens to his heart and resigns.
My argument isn't about LSU winning anything. It's simply that college football itself is being harmed by one particular team winning everything every year. It has gotten old and is starting to cause a massive loss of interest all over the country.
Some of this is due to the fact that they can recruit so many of the best players to begin with. Also, they recruit so many top notch players with no intention of playing them but with the sole intention of denying other schools the ability to have them. A reduction in scholarships would help address this.
Enough Alabama. Let's all hope they don't win another championship tomorrow night or at least if they do that Saban comes to his senses and listens to his heart and resigns.
Posted on 1/6/19 at 3:19 pm to Paul Maul number 37
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My argument isn't about LSU winning anything. It's simply that college football itself is being harmed by one particular team winning everything every year. It has gotten old and is starting to cause a massive loss of interest all over the country.
I'm sure LSU having to play alabama every year and being on an 8 game losing streak has nothing to do with your line if thought.
And we dont win it every year. Since Saban has been here we have not won it more than we have. And if we had won it every year, I'd still want to win it next year. You want to stop alabama, beat them. Dont handcuff them and other teams because you haven't been able to do that.
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Some of this is due to the fact that they can recruit so many of the best players to begin with.
Guess what? Every school can recruit the same players. Get better recruiters.
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Also, they recruit so many top notch players with no intention of playing them but with the sole intention of denying other schools the ability to have them
Link?
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. A reduction in scholarships would help address this.
No it wouldn't. You'd be punishing schools and recruits.
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Enough Alabama. Let's all hope they don't win another championship tomorrow night or at least if they do that Saban comes to his senses and listens to his heart and resigns
Desperation at its finest
This post was edited on 1/6/19 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 1/6/19 at 8:46 pm to bamaboy87
"If the two teams have the same record and one won their conference, sure go ahead and pick that team."
THIS is what should have happened in 2011 when it came down to one loss Oklahoma State and one-loss Alabama, especially since Alabama actually was given a shot to defeat LSU on it's own home field and had lost during the regular season. The final four teams need to be a fair representation of the entirety of college football so having more than one from any one conference should be very rare and happen ONLY when circumstances allow it.
THIS is what should have happened in 2011 when it came down to one loss Oklahoma State and one-loss Alabama, especially since Alabama actually was given a shot to defeat LSU on it's own home field and had lost during the regular season. The final four teams need to be a fair representation of the entirety of college football so having more than one from any one conference should be very rare and happen ONLY when circumstances allow it.
Posted on 1/6/19 at 9:13 pm to Paul Maul number 37
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they recruit so many top notch players with no intention of playing them
Oh we intend on playing them, especially in blowout wins over LSU
This post was edited on 1/7/19 at 2:22 am
Posted on 1/7/19 at 8:46 am to Paul Maul number 37
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To be honest, Alabama, for it's own good should fire Saban if he doesn't retire after this season. Otherwise they will forever be blamed as the school that caused the end of college football. If college football ends, you and your fellow Alabama addicts won't have anything to satisfy your cravings.
LSU has had the talent, since 2011, to be able to compete with and beat Alabama. Bama has more talent, but the difference isn't some vast expanse of infinity.
That said, we've seen the following teams still manage wins over Alabama since LSU:
Texas A&M
Ole Miss
Oklahoma
Auburn
Ohio State
Clemson
The problem isn't "Alabama is unbeatable". The problem is, apparently, "I think Alabama is the villain in my personal story, and the villains always lose, so why isn't Alabama losing???"
Get over it. Alabama isn't the villain who is supposed to lose in the 3rd act.
MLB is still going strong after the multiple Yankee dynasties.
The NBA survived the Bulls dynasty.
NCAAB survived the UCLA dynasty. I mean, did the NCAA tournament end after 1975? No? Even though UCLA won it in 1964, 1965, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, and 1975?
Somehow, though, only Alabama's resurgence is the "death knell" of a sport.
Posted on 1/7/19 at 8:48 am to Paul Maul number 37
I hope Saban makes their arse quit.
Posted on 1/7/19 at 10:32 am to skrayper
"Somehow, though, only Alabama's resurgence is the "death knell" of a sport."
Basketball isn't as expensive to field a team so many schools can maintain teams. Also, the number of players is much much smaller so the comparison to football doesn't wash. A one-team dominance in football will send those dollars elsewhere for the schools who feel they don't have a shot. This will kill college football if it starts to happen. Pray that Clemson wins tonight.
Basketball isn't as expensive to field a team so many schools can maintain teams. Also, the number of players is much much smaller so the comparison to football doesn't wash. A one-team dominance in football will send those dollars elsewhere for the schools who feel they don't have a shot. This will kill college football if it starts to happen. Pray that Clemson wins tonight.
Posted on 1/7/19 at 10:46 am to Paul Maul number 37
The reality behind your argument is you're pissed off that your team keeps losing to Alabama. And, if you're an LSU fan, I'm sure the fact that Saban used to coach at LSU makes you even more bitter.
You dont want fairness and equality in college football. You just want Alabama to stop winning. If it was your team winning you wouldn't be making this ridiculous argument. You dont want rules in place to help the schools that dont win big. You want rules in place to keep Alabama and Saban from winning.
Posted on 1/7/19 at 3:27 pm to bamaboy87
"You dont want fairness and equality in college football. You just want Alabama to stop winning. If it was your team winning you wouldn't be making this ridiculous argument. You dont want rules in place to help the schools that dont win big. You want rules in place to keep Alabama and Saban from winning"
As an addicted Alabama fan, you just don't get it. EVERYBODY ELSE is tired of Alabama winning everything every year. It has gotten to the point of water torture and college football is being hurt by the dominance of your semi-pro college team. We get it. Your team is better than everyone else. Your team has won more national championships than anyone else. Saban is the greatest coach ever. The point is that we are all sick of it and are losing interest in college football period. Your team has won enough. Stop being so damn greedy. The rest of America wants a break from this shite. Fire him after this season and do what's right for the game. I hope he reads this and comes to his senses.
As an addicted Alabama fan, you just don't get it. EVERYBODY ELSE is tired of Alabama winning everything every year. It has gotten to the point of water torture and college football is being hurt by the dominance of your semi-pro college team. We get it. Your team is better than everyone else. Your team has won more national championships than anyone else. Saban is the greatest coach ever. The point is that we are all sick of it and are losing interest in college football period. Your team has won enough. Stop being so damn greedy. The rest of America wants a break from this shite. Fire him after this season and do what's right for the game. I hope he reads this and comes to his senses.
Posted on 1/7/19 at 3:40 pm to Paul Maul number 37
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Stop being so damn greedy.
Greed is good. It motivates people instead of letting them sit on their arse and wanting something handed to them. Stop being so damn stupid. You and everyone else gets a chance to beat Bama every year. Sorry that you keep failing at it.
Not sorry
Posted on 1/7/19 at 3:46 pm to Paul Maul number 37
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As an addicted Alabama fan, you just don't get it. EVERYBODY ELSE is tired of Alabama winning everything every year. It has gotten to the point of water torture and college football is being hurt by the dominance of your semi-pro college team.
I get it. And I dont give a frick.
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We get it. Your team is better than everyone else. Your team has won more national championships than anyone else. Saban is the greatest coach ever.
Did that hurt to say?
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The point is that we are all sick of it and are losing interest in college football period
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Stop being so damn greedy.
Hmmm....nah. I want more. Stop Bama on the field.
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The rest of America wants a break from this shite
Tough shite
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Fire him after this season and do what's right for the game
I know you're trolling, but you should try to hide it a little better.
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I hope he reads this and comes to his senses.
I think he's too busy preparing to play in his 4th straight national championship game.
Posted on 1/7/19 at 4:09 pm to bamaboy87
"I get it. And I dont give a frick."
You have lost it. Saban has processed you into a non-human whose only reason for living is to see his favorite football team win every game every year. What are you going to turn into when the winning stops and your team actually loses more than one game in a season? The rest of us won't care but we will still at least give a frick.
You have lost it. Saban has processed you into a non-human whose only reason for living is to see his favorite football team win every game every year. What are you going to turn into when the winning stops and your team actually loses more than one game in a season? The rest of us won't care but we will still at least give a frick.
Posted on 1/7/19 at 4:26 pm to Paul Maul number 37
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What are you going to turn into when the winning stops and your team actually loses more than one game in a season?
I could be like you and cry about whoever starts winning.
Posted on 1/7/19 at 4:39 pm to Paul Maul number 37
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What are you going to turn into when the winning stops
What are you going to do when the winning never stops? Alabama has already broken your team. Saban is not leaving until he has broken every program in the country.
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