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For all those who think football should be canceled for the safety of student athletes

Posted on 8/12/20 at 12:16 am
Posted by stopitnow1
Florida
Member since Mar 2013
1263 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 12:16 am
Are these kids better off at home? Do you really think 18-22 y/o kids are going to stay put in their homes? If you do youre very wrong, and so far removed from the mindset a kid that age has. With football atleast they have a reason to avoid going out and possibly getting covid19, because they want to play. There is structure in school and consequences that affect their dream of playing in the NFL. There are also better precautions taken at school to avoid covid19 vs being at home.
Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
3644 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 12:19 am to
I agree they are safer (regardless of how much more) playing football.
Posted by YF12
Ottobaan
Member since Nov 2019
4451 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 12:24 am to
Arent most schools still having people on campus anyways in some capacity?

These players are just going to be at bars and house parties instead.

Football practice and games will be the furthest away from people they will be all fall.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
43980 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 12:55 am to
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These players are just going to be at bars and house parties instead.

They better not be.
A positive test means that player doesn’t play.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
13009 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 1:21 am to
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Are these kids better off at home? Do you really think 18-22 y/o kids are going to stay put in their homes? If you do youre very wrong, and so far removed from the mindset a kid that age has. With football atleast they have a reason to avoid going out and possibly getting covid19, because they want to play. There is structure in school and consequences that affect their dream of playing in the NFL. There are also better precautions taken at school to avoid covid19 vs being at home.



Then you also agree that prostitution should be legalized across the board and mandated to brothels only. Because both the prostitute as well as the client are far less likely to catch an STD or be the victim of a crime or abuse if it is in a regulated environment where constant testing and condom use is mandatory.
Posted by redeye
Member since Aug 2013
8598 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 1:31 am to
What the kids do at home is their responsibility. That should have no bearing. Not to mention that it ignores everyone else involved.

We're still learning about Covid-19 and still don't know all the dangers. Football is a game and not something we can't live without. I know many will respond that it's a business, but it's still a business built around a game and not a necessity. Without all the money, this wouldn't be such a big issue.
Posted by YF12
Ottobaan
Member since Nov 2019
4451 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 1:41 am to
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Football is a game and not something we can't live without. I know many will respond that it's a business, but it's still a business built around a game and not a necessity.


Almost nothing is a "necessity". Restaurants. Electronics. Entertainment. Most vehicles. Any drinks but water.

But what is the point of life without them?
Posted by redeye
Member since Aug 2013
8598 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 2:52 am to
True. You can pick and choose where you want to draw a line. In this case, I pick safety first. I realize that will be unpopular here, but I can do without football.

How often do we read about a tragic event in sports and people say "it really puts everything in perspective" or "it's just a game"? The push to play football now has me questioning the sincerity of those comments.
Posted by SmelvinRat
Slumwoody
Member since Oct 2015
1385 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 3:00 am to
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I pick safety first


Ok, but who defines "safety"? How far is "safe enough"? I think Saban got it right when he said that his players are far safer playing than meandering around campus.
Posted by redeye
Member since Aug 2013
8598 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 3:16 am to
I say let the medical experts decide.

You have legit arguments on both sides and I understand both. I'm just giving my opinion and mean no disrespect to others. Whatever happens, hopefully it's the right decision and works out for everyone. I'd just prefer to take the conservative route and not take any chances.
Posted by Griffindawg
Member since Oct 2013
6125 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 5:32 am to
Unfortunately for these university presidents it’s not about the safety of the student athletes. It’s about the liability of the school if they catch covid.... lawyers ruin everything
Posted by walley tux
DFW
Member since May 2020
794 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 6:22 am to
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redeye


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We're still learning about Covid-19 and still don't know all the dangers. Football is a game and not something we can't live without. I know many will respond that it's a business, but it's still a business built around a game and not a necessity. Without all the money, this wouldn't be such a big issue.


Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12350 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 6:24 am to
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Are these kids better off at home? Do you really think 18-22 y/o kids are going to stay put in their homes? If you do youre very wrong, and so far removed from the mindset a kid that age has.


Are they attending class with other students? It would seem that it would require all of the player’s classes to be on-line. I doubt that the players, staff, etc will have 100% compliance with gatherings, masks, etc. Like you said, the behaviors of college kids is not easy to predict or control.
Now, multiply that with opponent’s compliance, behaviors etc. Toss in travel and other factors. Think of it in the terms “chaos theory” similar to Jurassic Park.
I would love to see them play but it’s an uphill climb.
I would bet that the current thinking in the SEC is buying time while hoping for the best. It’s posturing so they can look at players and fans and say “we gave it our best shot.”
This post was edited on 8/12/20 at 8:49 am
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
20340 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 6:31 am to
I'm with you.

Why do people have a need to try and tell others what to do and what is safe for them. If anyone thinks crowds or public gatherings are dangerous then stay the frick at home and wear a mask and gloves. Nobody is stopping them.



This post was edited on 8/12/20 at 6:42 am
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30193 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 6:59 am to
I agree. For months I’ve been saying people need to shelter at home if they are afraid and let the rest of us live our lives.
Posted by Toroballistic
Tallahassee
Member since Dec 2017
1900 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 7:19 am to
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Then you also agree that prostitution should be legalized across the board


Why is it illegal in the first place? I can sell you my kidney but I can't rent you my sex organ? Really?
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 7:27 am to
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For all those who think football should be canceled

In
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for the safety of student athletes

Not for this reason but I'm tired of the SJW bullshite and how racist I am for being born white. I don't care if they ever play again.
Posted by bstew3006
318
Member since Dec 2007
12571 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 7:32 am to
Playing football, bad!!!

Kids on campus, sitting in classrooms with +60 others while earning a Liberal Arts degree is completely fine.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18163 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 7:37 am to
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Then you also agree that prostitution should be legalized across the board and mandated to brothels only

Yes, it should be legalized. Not sure why you'd limit it to brothels only.

In any case, the logic jump isn't quite sound. It is not about the individual choice of the student athlete to play or not play. It is about the liability the Univeristy is unwilling to assume given the current unknowns of Cv-19.

Posted by amders44
Atlanta Metro
Member since Jun 2013
674 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 7:38 am to
What about this idea. The football players do virtual learning. The entire team as well as coaches and any essential staff, relocates to the appropriate team hotel for the entire season, they have class via Zoom, etc. tutors via zoom, meetings are at the hotel, they are there 24/7, except to leave for practice, treatment, and games, the entire hotel is rented only to the football team. It would be a pain for sure, but if you really want to play, then this type of bubble would work.
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