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re: For all of the derelicts on this site, let me clear some things up for you
Posted on 9/4/26 at 9:58 am to 03 West CoChamps
Posted on 9/4/26 at 9:58 am to 03 West CoChamps
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There is a difference in per diem for NFL mini camps and NBA summer league and signing a pro contract. Those are not contracts. They are living expenses during a "tryout". That's a huge difference and what y'all refuse to acknowledge.
Harris "signed" a pro contract but was only paid $190 for gas because his contract was voided. Certainly you don't consider him a former NFL player. Never practiced a down. Never played a down. Didn't receive any payment.
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Posted on 9/4/26 at 9:59 am to 03 West CoChamps
Sadly, the courts have taken over CFB. The NCAA hasn't won a meaningful verdict in a while. Pavia and Chambliss circumvented existing rules because of judges. This will eventually happen with the SEC, LSU and the NCAA.
What appears as common sense to you and I don't appear as common sense to judges and courts.
What appears as common sense to you and I don't appear as common sense to judges and courts.
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:00 am to kajunman
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Nope. If he would have been cut after the 3rd preseason game, he would not have been considered an NFL player. He wouldn't have officially been part of the team.
Ok lets say hypothetically Fernando Mendoza witnessed a crime earlier this year and was a witness during a murder trial in the first week of August. If he was asked during his testimony what he does for work and answered he's an NFL football player, in your eyes he committed perjury?
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:02 am to NussBusDriver
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Harris "signed" a pro contract but was only paid $190 for gas because his contract was voided. Certainly you don't consider him a former NFL player. Never practiced a down. Never played a down. Didn't receive any payment.
It would be a gray area. It would be up to the SEC to determine if signing the contract would count even though it was voided. But again it is the SEC's prerogative to make that determination.
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:02 am to kajunman
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What appears as common sense to you and I don't appear as common sense to judges and courts.
We opened up this can of worms when we allowed players to get paid. A lot of people warned stuff like this could happen. I'm not saying players shouldn't get paid. Just pointing it out.
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:03 am to 03 West CoChamps
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There is a difference in per diem for NFL mini camps and NBA summer league and signing a pro contract. Those are not contracts. They are living expenses during a "tryout". That's a huge difference and what y'all refuse to acknowledge.
No, there isn’t. Agreement to participate in a camp, receive per diem and medical coverage are all contracts.
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Which is why the SEC rule was so detailed and who could play and who couldn't. So when it came to court they had their ducks in a row.
The rules was not detailed at all. It literally just says “a contract”. It doesn’t even specify “contract of employment”. It’s literally just “a contract”
Anything you sign, agreeing to do anything with another party, is a contract.
This post was edited on 9/4/26 at 10:04 am
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:06 am to BuckeyeGoon
Lame. He isn't officially an NFL player until he is on the roster when game one begins the regular season.
If a college basketball player plays during the NBA preseason and doesn't get signed even to the G League, is he an NBA player?
If a college basketball player plays during the NBA preseason and doesn't get signed even to the G League, is he an NBA player?
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:06 am to RB10
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No, there isn’t. Agreement to participate in a camp, receive per diem and medical coverage are all contracts.
The SEC said it doesn't count and it is their rules. Agreed by the presidents 16-0. Again just because you don't agree doesn't mean you get to sue and change them. Follow the rules or go find another conference. The SEC has every right to make any rules they want.
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:07 am to NussBusDriver
I was one of those back in the day doing the warning. It truly sucks.
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:07 am to 03 West CoChamps
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The SEC said it doesn't count and it is their rules. Agreed by the presidents 16-0. Again just because you don't agree doesn't mean you get to sue and change them. Follow the rules or go find another conference. The SEC has every right to make any rules they want.
Wrong. Sankey said HE doesn’t BELIEVE those are contracts.
It doesn’t really matter what he believes, they implemented a rule that covers all contracts, but then tried to enforce that rule on only some contracts.
You can’t do that, and that’s why they keep losing.
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:08 am to 03 West CoChamps
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It would be a gray area. It would be up to the SEC to determine if signing the contract would count even though it was voided. But again it is the SEC's prerogative to make that determination.
It would be if they were being equal in their actions. You don't get to say if you break rule 1 and get a TRO we will just let it go but if you break rule 2 and get a TRO we will suspend your coach and fine you millions. That's now things work in the legal world. The SEC set themselves up for failure in how they handled this. Doing things rushed and with emotion usually ends up bad. The SEC is having to learn that lesson. Everybody piling on LSU when Harris comes out and says Ole Miss was his first option completely kills the SEC's case against LSU. Wright saying Ole mIss and SC were recruiting him does the same thing. Under oath Sankey couldn't define pro or even cite the rules. The NCAA and SEC screwed this up. LSU didn't make these 100+ athletes to go get TRO's. Actually Harris and Wright technically have a court order AGAINST LSU. That really flies in the face of the SEC's suit.
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:10 am to RB10
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Wrong. Sankey said HE doesn’t BELIEVE those are contracts.
1st off it isn't Sankey's rule. It is the SEC's that LSU's president votes yes on.
2nd the SEC can absolutely do whatever they frick they want.
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t doesn’t really matter what he believes, they implemented a rule that covers all contracts, but then tried to enforce that rule on only some contracts.
No it was very specific on what contracts would make a player playing bring penalties to said school.
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You can’t do that, and that’s why they keep losing.
Yes he can. He is losing in a biased court that will assuredly be overturned on appeal.
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:12 am to NussBusDriver
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LSU didn't make these 100+ athletes to go get TRO's.
Actually the SEC is claiming this is exactly what LSU did in federal court. Not 100s but Harris and Wright for sure.
This post was edited on 9/4/26 at 10:13 am
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:12 am to 03 West CoChamps
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Actually the SEC is claiming this is exactly what LSU did in federal court.
Point out in the lawsuit against LSU where it says that.
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:14 am to kajunman
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He isn't officially an NFL player until he is on the roster when game one begins the regular season.
So he was being paid by the Raiders and the team has been selling his jersey all summer but he wasnt an NFL player?
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:14 am to RB10
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Point out in the lawsuit against LSU where it says that.
ESPN article
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"Specifically, Defendants waged a deliberate and coordinated campaign to recruit professional athletes to play football for LSU during the 2026-27 season, including players who had signed NFL contracts with the Cleveland Browns, New Orleans Saints, and Tampa Bay Buccaneers," the lawsuit said. "Numerous reports have shown that at least two of these professional athletes are on campus and actively practicing with LSU's football team. Defendants have also expressed their unequivocal intent to place those athletes on LSU's official football roster and allow them to participate in football games during the upcoming season."
This post was edited on 9/4/26 at 10:16 am
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:15 am to 03 West CoChamps
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1st off it isn't Sankey's rule. It is the SEC's that LSU's president votes yes on.
Correct. Which is exactly why his determination of what is a contract and what isn’t doesn’t matter.
All contracts fall under the rule. All of them.
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2nd the SEC can absolutely do whatever they frick they want.
No, they can’t.
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No it was very specific on what contracts would make a player playing bring penalties to said school.
No, it wasn’t. It literally just says “a contract”.
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Yes he can. He is losing in a biased court that will assuredly be overturned on appeal.
Like all the other injunctions that have been turned over on appeal, right?
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:16 am to 03 West CoChamps
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Specifically, Defendants waged a deliberate and coordinated campaign to recruit professional athletes to play football for LSU during the 2026-27 season, including players who had signed NFL contracts with the Cleveland Browns, New Orleans Saints, and Tampa Bay Buccaneers," the lawsuit said. "Numerous reports have shown that at least two of these professional athletes are on campus and actively practicing with LSU's football team. Defendants have also expressed their unequivocal intent to place those athletes on LSU's official football roster and allow them to participate in football games during the upcoming season."
Where does it say LSU encouraged them to file a lawsuit?
ETA: Make sure to read it slowly this time.
This post was edited on 9/4/26 at 10:20 am
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:16 am to 03 West CoChamps
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Actually the SEC is claiming this is exactly what LSU did in federal court. Not 100s but Harris and Wright for sure.
That's bad for the SEC because Wright and Harris's agents will have the conversations with Ole Miss and prove LSU wasn't the reason they did this. Harris said Ole Miss was first option and only pivoted to LSU after Ole Miss wanted him to play OL. This kills that suit and the narrative everybody is putting out.
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:19 am to kajunman
There is no difference between NFL and college players getting paid to play football. If you make money playing football you are a professional. Not sure why anyone would attempt to argue otherwise.
Collective bargaining, splitting of TV money with players is coming like a freight train.
Collective bargaining, splitting of TV money with players is coming like a freight train.
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