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re: Football talk: Arky fans, what are your expectations?
Posted on 8/7/19 at 6:18 am to Poker_hog
Posted on 8/7/19 at 6:18 am to Poker_hog
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5-7. A good coach would go 7-5 Morris pro: Decent recruiter Trying to change culture left by fat arse Offensive philosophy that can work with our recruiting limitations Morris cons: Couldn’t get by in from Bert’s players No in game adjustments Very poor week to week game planing Gets out coached on game day Horrible record
100% agree. He is looking like Danny Ford 2.0
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Posted on 8/7/19 at 7:44 am to Poker_hog
3-9
More of the same.
More of the same.
Posted on 8/7/19 at 7:59 am to AustinDawg
4 wins.
To show competence on defense in all 12 games.
For our offensive line to not give up 40 sacks per game.
5-7 is a success. 3 or less wins is a failure.
Not judging Chad yet - too soon. But yes, he was saddled with a horrible roster. Recruiting last year was better, so that's a positive.
To show competence on defense in all 12 games.
For our offensive line to not give up 40 sacks per game.
5-7 is a success. 3 or less wins is a failure.
Not judging Chad yet - too soon. But yes, he was saddled with a horrible roster. Recruiting last year was better, so that's a positive.
Posted on 8/7/19 at 8:19 am to AustinDawg
5-7 with 1 SEC win coming courtesy of one of Moo State, Ole Miss (who have gone above and beyond the call of duty to ease our football pain in the last several years), or Missouri (they lose one head scratcher game a year, it might as well be us).
We have talent, but its young talent. I suspect we will be quite a bit better at the end of the year then the beginning... which is why getting arch-nemesis Ole Miss early is not the best thing in the world.
Coaching wise I'm not really sold on our staff. We hired Chad Morris because he is a great offensive mind and he has tremendous ties to Texas HS football.
He's done a good job of getting us back into Texas after Bert went out of his way to alienate every HS coach there. He hasn't, however, been the guy calling the plays. Chad entrusted that to his protege and while the guy came up with a great game plan for Alabama he was mediocre at best the rest of the season and did not show much skill at making adjustments.
Defense wise Chavis is slowly moving us to being middle of the pack. He's a great coach, but he's getting a bit long in the tooth. Not to mention he's been in the SEC for so long everyone knows what he is going to call before he calls it.
We show some progress and if we get some lucky breaks (that would be a nice change of pace) then we make a bowl game. The rebuilding continues.
We have talent, but its young talent. I suspect we will be quite a bit better at the end of the year then the beginning... which is why getting arch-nemesis Ole Miss early is not the best thing in the world.
Coaching wise I'm not really sold on our staff. We hired Chad Morris because he is a great offensive mind and he has tremendous ties to Texas HS football.
He's done a good job of getting us back into Texas after Bert went out of his way to alienate every HS coach there. He hasn't, however, been the guy calling the plays. Chad entrusted that to his protege and while the guy came up with a great game plan for Alabama he was mediocre at best the rest of the season and did not show much skill at making adjustments.
Defense wise Chavis is slowly moving us to being middle of the pack. He's a great coach, but he's getting a bit long in the tooth. Not to mention he's been in the SEC for so long everyone knows what he is going to call before he calls it.
We show some progress and if we get some lucky breaks (that would be a nice change of pace) then we make a bowl game. The rebuilding continues.
Posted on 8/7/19 at 12:59 pm to AustinDawg
Expecting 6-6, slow start but really begin to see things mesh towards the back half of the schedule.
Anyone who thinks we're going 0-8 again isn't very bright, but the pessimism is well understood. Only two SEC schools have had back to back 0-8 seasons since 2000- Vandy and KY. Our history as a program doesn't suggest we end up in that group. Plus the schedule sets up well against with at least four teams taking a step back, probably more.
Significant talent upgrades at the QB and WR position, with an o-line who can't be any worse, and a healthy Rakeem Boyd (hopefully) will relatively go a long way.
Boyd is a top back in the conference when healthy.
Defense will be bad.
Anyone who thinks we're going 0-8 again isn't very bright, but the pessimism is well understood. Only two SEC schools have had back to back 0-8 seasons since 2000- Vandy and KY. Our history as a program doesn't suggest we end up in that group. Plus the schedule sets up well against with at least four teams taking a step back, probably more.
Significant talent upgrades at the QB and WR position, with an o-line who can't be any worse, and a healthy Rakeem Boyd (hopefully) will relatively go a long way.
Boyd is a top back in the conference when healthy.
Defense will be bad.
Posted on 8/7/19 at 1:01 pm to CrabInMyShoeMouth
I don't really give Morris a pass for last season but circumstances alliveate some concerns. I like Chad, seems to be building a culture players want to be in and is recruiting well thus far.
Posted on 8/7/19 at 1:22 pm to TheCheshireHog
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John Gruden obviously or some other hilariously non-realistic candidate.
Yes. Because Matt Campbell was totally "non" realistic
You know, the guy that was named Big 12 Coach of the Year twice.....but lets take a guy with minimal experience and a losing record instead. Should work out fine (2-10)
Posted on 8/7/19 at 2:02 pm to CFB_Fanatic
Campbell went 3-9 his first year at Iowa State, don't see how he would have done much better than 2-10 in 2018 then you'd be saying the same thing about him right now.
Posted on 8/7/19 at 2:05 pm to AustinDawg
I think they win 6 games. Will beat one out of LSU, Auburn, MSU
Posted on 8/7/19 at 2:16 pm to gohogs141
Anything less than 6 wins is a failure.
How can anyone be happy with Morris after having literally the worst season in school history? No matter what you want to say about the roster, that is simply bad coaching.
A lot of the defensive problems last year were because the offense couldn't get a first down to save their life and they were on the field too much.
Regardless of who ends up being the starting QB, it will be a huge upgrade from what we had last year and gives me hope and a reason to be excited.
Boyd will be a stud despite our shitty O-line.
Freshman WRs are no joke. Super excited about Burks and Knox. Burks 1 handed catch today. Dude is basically a LB playing WR and making catches like that. He had another 1 handed catch yesterday as well and Morris said he had never seen anything like it before.
How can anyone be happy with Morris after having literally the worst season in school history? No matter what you want to say about the roster, that is simply bad coaching.
A lot of the defensive problems last year were because the offense couldn't get a first down to save their life and they were on the field too much.
Regardless of who ends up being the starting QB, it will be a huge upgrade from what we had last year and gives me hope and a reason to be excited.
Boyd will be a stud despite our shitty O-line.
Freshman WRs are no joke. Super excited about Burks and Knox. Burks 1 handed catch today. Dude is basically a LB playing WR and making catches like that. He had another 1 handed catch yesterday as well and Morris said he had never seen anything like it before.
This post was edited on 8/7/19 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 8/7/19 at 2:18 pm to BoerneAg
Needs to win 6 games. All 4 OOC and 2 SEC games.
If he goes 4-8 (0-8), he needs to be fired. Can't start 0-16, I don't care how bad the roster is.
SEC opponents ranked in order of possible to impossible.
OM
UK
Mizz
MSU
TAM
AU
LSU
Bama
If he goes 4-8 (0-8), he needs to be fired. Can't start 0-16, I don't care how bad the roster is.
SEC opponents ranked in order of possible to impossible.
OM
UK
Mizz
MSU
TAM
AU
LSU
Bama
Posted on 8/7/19 at 3:20 pm to AustinDawg
THREE AND NINE
Posted on 8/7/19 at 3:34 pm to TheDarkSide
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How can anyone be happy with Morris after having literally the worst season in school history? No matter what you want to say about the roster, that is simply bad coaching.
Chad had some bad moments and I don't think anyone is happy with last season, he flat out lost us the game in Fort Collins with his coaching.
But if we're willing to acknowledge how bad the roster was then Morris deserves some credit for hanging 31 on Bama's D, playing LSU within a TD, and playing A&M within a TD.
The most concerning thing about Chad from last season for me is ending the season with two losses by a combined 84 points.
Regardless if you think 2-10 is the bottom line, the reality of last season is we we're shuffling QB's who were not close to P5 talent, we lost our best offensive weapon to injury, Nance literally quit and Cornelius might as well have too, installing a polar opposite offense than what our collective personnel was best suited and recruited for. Those are just the tangibles.
Posted on 8/7/19 at 4:12 pm to AustinDawg
Arkansas will beat auburn
Posted on 8/7/19 at 4:54 pm to CrabInMyShoeMouth
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The most concerning thing about Chad from last season for me is ending the season with two losses by a combined 84 points.
Until that did you feel you saw improvement? IE enough to give some home for the future. From what little I follow of recruiting it sounded like he did a good job there this off-season.
How did BB let things get so bad, should he have been fired a year or two earlier?
Posted on 8/7/19 at 5:16 pm to AustinDawg
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Until that did you feel you saw improvement?
For sure. I have no idea what happened those last two games, but not good from a momentum standpoint going into a somewhat critical season. May mean nothing, we'll see.
As for Bielema, a decent case could have been made to fire him after year four. We had an average team that season with some good wins but the way we lost the last two to MIZ and VT was a bit repulsive.
I don't how he let things get to the point it did. Blowing half time leads was his biggest problem, I think it was 12 of them. He also lost the majority of games that were tied at half. A true buffoon as a second half coach.
Rumor (I say rumor to give Bret a break) is he developed an aggressive drinking habit while here and it really wasn't hard to argue when looking at him toward the end of his tenure. Many will chalk him up as a lazy coach while at Arkansas.
Posted on 8/7/19 at 9:58 pm to CrabInMyShoeMouth
Thanks for the discussion.
It sounds like you have some good RBs, what are the other strengths of the team?
Posted on 8/7/19 at 10:46 pm to AustinDawg
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It sounds like you have some good RBs, what are the other strengths of the team?
Not much, honestly. Not much based on past performances at least. Other than at TE- CJ O'Grady will get open and have sure hands. Hunter Henry's little brother, Hudson, will be no slouch at backup either.
I don't know if this is a unique situation but it seems like one to have 33 new faces and 50+ freshman/RS freshman. The kicker there, for Hog fans at least, is the on paper talent coming in vs the on field talent moving out is muy bueno. That's why it's a bit more difficult to assess this team right now.
I can't say we'll have strong QB play, but Nick Starkel is coming along well and sounds up to the challenge. For the record, I think Ben Hicks is a backup plan if Starkel proves to be incompetent. Arkansas fans should want to see Starkel.
Morris' system tosses it around, as you probably know, so I think it's reasonable to believe that Treylon Burks and Trey Knox are immediate contributors as freshman at the WR position. Those two will probably have more combined yards than our top 4 WR from last season.
I know that sounds overly optimistic but Chad Morris won't win an SEC game if that doesn't happen. You may agree if you look into to the two freshman I named and what we're shipping out for top WR options.
In conclusion- I see the TE and RB positions as Arkansas' biggest strengths. I also see Morris putting his QB and at least a couple freshman WRs (TQ Coleman may be another to keep an eye on) in a position to fulfill their first year potential. The offense will put up points. Defense- man I have no idea. I would expect around the 12th best in the conference give or take 2 spots.
Posted on 8/7/19 at 11:05 pm to TheDarkSide
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Regardless of who ends up being the starting QB, it will be a huge upgrade from what we had last year and gives me hope and a reason to be excited.
This is overstated. Hicks looked like shite in the spring, and Starkel's stats aren't anything to write home about. His only wins were against Ole Miss, New Mexico, Louisiana-Monroe and Northwestern State. He had mop up duty against ULM and NWSU and didn't start. He lost every other game he played in.
This post was edited on 8/7/19 at 11:09 pm
Posted on 8/7/19 at 11:20 pm to CFB_Fanatic
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Yes. Because Matt Campbell was totally "non" realistic
Campbell had a 9.4 million dollar buyout so yeah he was non-realistic. Ask Tennessee how their pursuit of him worked out.
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