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re: Football and Baseball money is good, but not compared to the BIG-10.

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Posted by Hailstate15
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 3:36 am to
finally someone else who see's where I am coming from. there is 0 chance soccer ever becomes a major sport at the collegiate level.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 3:37 am to
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Get rid of that rule.

Easy.

Women sports add nothing.

Why have them in the first place?

Why destroy a whole Athletic Department because women need to feel equal?

That is not fair to men in relation to sports overall.

That is not how the World works.


It's not a rule. It's a law. It's called Title IX.
Posted by EmoryEagle4AU
Druid Hills, GA
Member since Jun 2019
122 posts
Posted on 7/19/19 at 3:48 am to
The Atlantic Coast Conference would disagree with you.

They are literally begging SEC schools to join in a League of some sort.

You obviously don't know "your" sport.

Boston College, Virginia Tech, Duke and Wake Forest beckon.

Posted by MaroonNation
StarkVegas, Mississippi, Bitch!
Member since Nov 2010
21950 posts
Posted on 7/19/19 at 3:53 am to
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Rutgers, Maryland and Iowa have Wrestling, Lacrosse, and Soccer.

They have it successfully.

Why can't we?

Money is money.




After Fish Camp, Greco-Roman wrestling is the second gayest thing one man can do to another. Why would you want to watch something that damn ghey?
Posted by EmoryEagle4AU
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Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 3:55 am to
Money.
Posted by The Winner
Member since Nov 2016
7909 posts
Posted on 7/19/19 at 3:58 am to
There is 0 chance it becomes a major sport if SEC schools don't get involved. But it will explode if they do.

College Baseball is only major to some SEC Schools. With soccer, it would be major across the board.

But only 3 of the 5 P5 conferences and only 205 D1 schools support Men's Soccer and it is a damn shame. It is one of the easiest things for any SEC school to field considering every single one of them field a Women's Team.

And once the Men's soccer fan support explodes, just use the baseball stadiums, then inevitably the football stadiums.

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Fast Growing Soccer Perhaps one of the fastest growing sports in America among the youth is soccer. Soccer is the last sport to cross both gender groups top five for youth. It is an easy sport to begin learning and to play, which makes it exciting for youngsters almost immediately. Although it is simple at first, strategy and advanced skills develop over time making the game more competitive as they grow older.


LINK
Posted by The Winner
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 3:59 am to
I believe Wrestling is a dying sport. Soccer isn't which is what I am advocating for. I've heard more good than bad for Lacrosse but personally I do not like that sport.
Posted by CauleyHog
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 4:09 am to
Soccer, lacrosse and wrestling are the sports inwould like to see added. Do universities have shooting clubs, marksmanship clubs by a chance?
Posted by EmoryEagle4AU
Druid Hills, GA
Member since Jun 2019
122 posts
Posted on 7/19/19 at 4:10 am to
"Millions" of positive Dollars spread evenly to each 14 SEC members...unless you like a negative return for the current system of return for Women sports in our conference overall.

...which would actually contribute to them, positively, as well.

We would also define the sport going forward with our outstanding fan-bases.

Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
19425 posts
Posted on 7/19/19 at 4:11 am to
Our Women’s national team isn’t actually more popular than the men’s FWIW. I don’t want to have to explain the specifics of why but just know the women’s team maybe has a 4th of the popularity. Probably not even that. Closer to a tenth. The numbers were skewed because the men didn’t make the WC and the men did. The gold cup final got about 20% more viewers than the fricking World Cup final. If you take any segment of time in which the US make the World Cup, so pretty much any segment of time other than the last 4 years, the men blow the women out the water.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 7/19/19 at 4:12 am to
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Boston College, Virginia Tech, Duke and Wake Forest beckon.



Have you done any investigation into this?

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Boston College Eagles men's soccer Soccer

Stadium: Newton Soccer Complex; (Capacity: 2,000)


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Virginia Tech Hokies men's soccer


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Stadium Thompson Field (Capacity: 2,500)


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Wake Forest Demon Deacons men's soccer.


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Stadium Spry Stadium (Capacity: 3,000)


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Duke Blue Devils Men's Soccer


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Stadium Koskinen Stadium (Capacity: 4,500)




So exactly how popular can it be?

I found this from 2011. UK is the only SEC school listed for men's soccer. They drew a whopping avg. of 737 per home game.

LINK
This post was edited on 7/19/19 at 4:16 am
Posted by The Winner
Member since Nov 2016
7909 posts
Posted on 7/19/19 at 4:16 am to
South Carolina has one as well but the SEC doesn't sponsor it
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
19425 posts
Posted on 7/19/19 at 4:18 am to
UK isn’t playing in a league because we won’t give them one. Is it really that hard to understand that with proper stadiums, proper marketing, and proper staffs, not only would talented players on the semi-pro bubble actually choose to come to school but also that people would want to see it?
Posted by EmoryEagle4AU
Druid Hills, GA
Member since Jun 2019
122 posts
Posted on 7/19/19 at 4:22 am to
2011.

2019.

I am not trying to be rude, but do you have a BS in Statistics, by chance?
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 7/19/19 at 4:22 am to
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Is it really that hard to understand that with proper stadiums, proper marketing, and proper staffs, not only would talented players on the semi-pro bubble actually choose to come to school but also that people would want to see it?


In this country at this time.........no

As much as you obviously love soccer, the vast majority of people just don't care that much about it at this time. If they did, women's soccer would be more popular at the collegiate level...........because as far as collegiate soccer goes, they have the market cornered.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 7/19/19 at 4:26 am to
Just trying to prove to you that soccer at the collegiate level is not at all popular. It might be different if we were in another country. Football is not popular worldwide, yet in this country it is king. From the numbers I linked, women's basketball is more popular than men's soccer.............even at schools where men's soccer is actually popular.
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
19425 posts
Posted on 7/19/19 at 4:26 am to
I don’t know what else to say other than that you are purely and unequivocally wrong. Women’s soccer isn’t popular at the collegiate level because women’s soccer isn’t popular in general. Heck, I don’t even like women’s soccer. It’s boring.
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vast majority of people

Just simply not true. Maybe true 40 years ago. Maybe even 20 years ago.

Posted by The Winner
Member since Nov 2016
7909 posts
Posted on 7/19/19 at 4:30 am to
Saying Women's Soccer is as popular as Men's Soccer is like saying Women's Basketball is as popular as Men's Basketball. Do I need to even compare the WNBA vs the NBA...
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 7/19/19 at 4:31 am to
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Just simply not true. Maybe true 40 years ago. Maybe even 20 years ago.




[quote]LINK ]

How do you justify these numbers then? I found more recent data. It's not good any way you slice it. Again, attendance to women's basketball games are better than those numbers.
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
19425 posts
Posted on 7/19/19 at 4:40 am to
Huh? It’s not just the SEC that needs to fix Men’s soccer. Obviously the SEC has farther to go since we don’t have programs in general. But I’m not saying Maryland and the other top soccer programs should sit where they are at. You get out of something what you put into it. And the main thing behind that is marketing. Getting collegiate men’s soccer talked about on channels like ESPN, building a more than just professional soccer culture in the US. I don’t think current attendence numbers are in any way reflective of the potential of men’s collegiate soccer.
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