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re: Florida St. has to announce by today what their plans are for 2024.....right?

Posted on 8/15/23 at 10:40 am to
Posted by MillerLiteTime
Atlanta
Member since Aug 2018
2520 posts
Posted on 8/15/23 at 10:40 am to
The B10 and SEC are not going to take any ACC schools without that school first negotiating a full release of the GOR. Inviting a school under pending litigation over several hundred million would be a disaster. We run the risk of being sued for tortious interference with a contract, plus the risk of the invited school losing the litigation and their home games owned by another conference for 15 years. Never going to happen, especially not when all we would get is a pro rata addition from ESPN.
Posted by NaturalStateReb
Arkansas
Member since Jun 2012
1443 posts
Posted on 8/15/23 at 10:42 am to
FSU isn't going anywhere. They were just threatening more force than they could use.
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
14226 posts
Posted on 8/15/23 at 10:43 am to
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Doesn't FSU have to announce by August 15th if they're going to play in the ACC for the 2024 season? Hopefully someone out there knows the answer.



FSU is nowhere close to the situation we just watched in the Pac-12. They are just huffing and puffing about their unhappiness. No one moves out of their house until they find a better one.
Posted by SneezyBeltranIsHere
Member since Jul 2021
2471 posts
Posted on 8/15/23 at 10:47 am to
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Doesn't FSU have to announce by August 15th if they're going to play in the ACC for the 2024 season?


You know what is funny......the people who think that FSU is going to go balls to the wall in a legal fight over the Grant of Rights & the ACC contract, and yet they still think FSU will pay attention to the August 15th deadline mentioned in the contract that they (supposedly) feel is invalid.
Posted by turnpiketiger
Southeast Texas
Member since May 2020
9466 posts
Posted on 8/15/23 at 10:49 am to
Honestly it is what it is. The SEC needs to go ahead and take Clemson and FSU.

Can’t let the Big10 snag them. It’s an arms race and if there’s two teams needing a home in the heart of the south you snag them. This keeps the SEC’s regionality in tact while still growing. Not something that the Big10 can say. FSU and Clemson are natural fits in the SEC.
Posted by PorkBelly
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2021
366 posts
Posted on 8/15/23 at 10:52 am to
They are going to stay because the SEC, Big10 ain’t knocking on that door right now.
Posted by MillerLiteTime
Atlanta
Member since Aug 2018
2520 posts
Posted on 8/15/23 at 10:56 am to
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There is absolutely zero reason for the non big name schools in the ACC to give in to any of FSU’s demands.


The only reason would be if there actually was some compromise where FSU and Clemson would be happy long term and keep the conference in tact another 30 + years. But this is not just a money problem. FSU, Clemson, and ND are the only schools in the country who expect to compete at the national title level who are not in the SEC or Big Ten. FSU and Clemson know if they sit back for 15 years without being in that club that they will get left out of whatever new association gets formed to create a playoff between those two conferences.
Posted by JCdawg
Member since Sep 2014
7819 posts
Posted on 8/15/23 at 11:05 am to
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Honestly it is what it is. The SEC needs to go ahead and take Clemson and FSU. Can’t let the Big10 snag them. It’s an arms race and if there’s two teams needing a home in the heart of the south you snag them. This keeps the SEC’s regionality in tact while still growing. Not something that the Big10 can say. FSU and Clemson are natural fits in the SEC.


So each SEC school gets less money with those two mouths to feed? I don’t think so, they don’t bring added value, cultural fit is irrelevant in this case. For the millionth time, Clemson and FSU add no monetary value to the SEC at this moment.
Posted by turnpiketiger
Southeast Texas
Member since May 2020
9466 posts
Posted on 8/15/23 at 11:17 am to
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So each SEC school gets less money with those two mouths to feed? I don’t think so, they don’t bring added value, cultural fit is irrelevant in this case. For the millionth time, Clemson and FSU add no monetary value to the SEC at this moment.


1. It would only work if the TV deal gets rehashed and more $ is distributed
2. How does Clemson and FSU not add any value? They are massive brands in the heart of the south. Go anywhere in the southeast and you’ll see plenty of Clemson and FSU representation. Both have a strong FB history and commitment. Clemson won two titles in the past 7 years.

They’d both immediately be in the top 8 for SEC brand prestige above the likes of mizzou A&M Kentucky Arkansas etc. any time you have a chance to get teams who have won titles and are historical brands, you jump.
This post was edited on 8/15/23 at 11:18 am
Posted by MillerLiteTime
Atlanta
Member since Aug 2018
2520 posts
Posted on 8/15/23 at 11:24 am to
Totally agree we should take them….. if they can get a GOR release negotiated.
Posted by tigerburningbright75
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since May 2011
1063 posts
Posted on 8/15/23 at 12:14 pm to
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You know what is funny......the people who think that FSU is going to go balls to the wall in a legal fight over the Grant of Rights & the ACC contract, and yet they still think FSU will pay attention to the August 15th deadline mentioned in the contract that they (supposedly) feel is invalid.



I'm merely asking. Never said that I fully understood the legalities of the situation.
Posted by BuzzSaw 12
The Dark Side Of The Moon
Member since Dec 2010
5246 posts
Posted on 8/15/23 at 12:56 pm to
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FSU is stuck and they know it. They’re trying to get the ACC to budge on a different cost sharing model by inventing fake leverage (the PE move, hoping the SEC/B10 would throw them a life line) but the ACC is calling their bluff. If they could get out of the GOR, they would have by now.



This 100% correct. On top of that they have nowhere to go. The Big10 doesn't want them and the SEC even if there was some level of interest doesn't want them either because ESPN isn't giving them anymore money to take on another school right now. Hell they won't even pay for the SEC to play a 9th conference game. On top of that Florida would lead the charge to do anything to keep their dumbasses out of the SEC.

Fake leverage is the perfect term for their little tantrum and you can add "look at me moment" due to them thinking they will be nationally relevant this year for the first time in years. Free Shoes U can frick off. Weak Florist owns their arse anyway.
Posted by 308
the backwoods of Mississippi
Member since Sep 2020
1969 posts
Posted on 8/15/23 at 1:34 pm to
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The SEC needs to go ahead and take Clemson and FSU. Can't let the Big 10 snag them.


When are some of you going to finally understand that the Big 10 does NOT want FSU and Clemson???



Posted by gamecockman12
Columbia, SC
Member since Aug 2012
5953 posts
Posted on 8/15/23 at 1:51 pm to
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Nobody talking to you coot. Go pull for some cocks!


Stick to the ACCRant you dumb orange hick.
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
13088 posts
Posted on 8/15/23 at 2:14 pm to
F$U and Clemson better stay in the ACC. Neither the Big 10 nor the SEC wants them.
Posted by bloupe2
Member since Apr 2011
2857 posts
Posted on 8/15/23 at 2:25 pm to
This poster has no life. kid go somewhere else
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
16306 posts
Posted on 8/15/23 at 3:00 pm to
delete.
This post was edited on 8/15/23 at 3:01 pm
Posted by Trumansfangs
Town & Country
Member since Sep 2018
6903 posts
Posted on 8/15/23 at 3:09 pm to
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What you going to do about it? Internet tuff guy!



Ok, lets just all calm down and blame the tension on this unbearable heat.

Posted by Alistair
Orlando
Member since Jul 2021
171 posts
Posted on 8/15/23 at 3:11 pm to
FSU and Clemson are not AAU schools so the Big 10 are not going to invite them. Full stop.

They don't add TV viewers to the SEC. They're not even in the list of Top 10 schools that have appeared in games with 4 million viewers from 2015-2022.

It will cost around 500 million. Yes that's Five. Hundred. Million. dollars to get out of the ACC GoR along with the buyout for the rights.

SEC and B1G aren't having any of that noise.
Posted by Trumansfangs
Town & Country
Member since Sep 2018
6903 posts
Posted on 8/15/23 at 3:16 pm to
Oh, it's funny you should ask...

Columbia, MO Forecast · Morning. 65°. -- · Afternoon. 76°.



I almost had to turn on the a/c this afternoon.





( Thread derailment attempt #2 )



No one here can control what becomes of the ACC or the SEC for that matter.
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