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Posted on 7/18/22 at 10:28 am to
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17442 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 10:28 am to
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Thank you for protecting me from *checks notes* a third world country with no organized military presence so I can shitpost on tRant and eat chicken nuggies while playing Fortnite


Your welcome, now continue playing that queer video game bro!
Posted by ChiGator
Member since Nov 2020
3264 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 11:29 am to
The constitution was written over 200 years ago. By your logic we should keep football with leather helmets and a goal post in the middle of the endzone because evolution in basic society doesn’t matter.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22474 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 11:38 am to
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Thank you for protecting me from *checks notes* a third world country with no organized military presence so I can shitpost on tRant and eat chicken nuggies while playing Fortnite




Do you even know what makes a country 3rd world?

I'm guessing...no.



I'll give you a hint: It has nothing to do with the countries economic or military status.
This post was edited on 7/18/22 at 11:39 am
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22474 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 11:40 am to
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Why don’t you just sit this one out, hoss.


How long do you need me to sit out before you come up with a real response?
Posted by Murph4HOF
A-T-L-A-N-T-A (that's where I stay)
Member since Sep 2019
11079 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 11:43 am to
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The constitution was written over 200 years ago. By your logic we should keep football with leather helmets and a goal post in the middle of the endzone because evolution in basic society doesn’t matter.
The irony of someone with "Chi" in their user name lecturing about gun control is thiccc.

Chicago shootings: 25 shot, 7 fatally, in weekend violence across city, CPD says

Chicago has a Uvalde basically every 2 weeks.

There is a process to change the Constitution. Amendments have been removed from the Constitution previously. You can read about the proper way to change the Constitution in the Constitution.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52282 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 11:46 am to
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The constitution was written over 200 years ago. By your logic we should keep football with leather helmets and a goal post in the middle of the endzone because evolution in basic society doesn’t matter.


Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

-John Adams
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22199 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 11:52 am to
quote:

The constitution was written over 200 years ago. By your logic we should keep football with leather helmets and a goal post in the middle of the endzone because evolution in basic society doesn’t matter.


Are freedom of assembly, the press, speech, and right to a trial also up for debate because they were guaranteed 200+ years ago?
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22474 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 12:10 pm to
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My associates degree in womens studies says otherwise, buddy


Wow, what a waste of money.

But, are you able to define what a woman is?
This post was edited on 7/18/22 at 12:11 pm
Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
4436 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 12:17 pm to
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Lawmakers will define the terms, including what an assault rifle legally is


admittedly, I have not read the entire thread. starting with the comment above....you must not pay attention to many laws. they are purposefully left in gray areas. very few laws are black and white. most politicians want to leave things open to interpretations so they can get away with something that was never admitted publicly.

politicians are normally lawyers. lawyers make money "arguing" back and forth about these gray areas. Gray areas = billable hours.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22474 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 12:25 pm to
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Actually...

The term, "assault rifle" is literally a translation of the German, "Sturmgewehr". Perhaps you're thinking of the term, "Assault weapon".

But beyond that, all of language is just stringing made up terms together. Look at all the "made up" words we've gotten in the last 30 years just from the Internet.

But also, it doesn't matter what you think is meaningful or meaningless, the term will be defined by law if they ever want to prohibit their popular use.


You can call something anything you want. But the definition of assault is either a verb or a noun, not an adjective.

And no, they would never use the term "assault rifle" in any law. Because again, it doesn't exist.

quote:


Isn't that just another "made up" term? I mean, I don't think anyone was using that term back in the Napoleonic era. Somebody had to make it up along the way.


The word tactical is an adjective. So no, it's not made up at all. It's the correct word to use.



Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 12:26 pm to
An actual assault rifle MUST be capable of select fire. You'd think the supposedly educated liberals would know that.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32759 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

The constitution was written over 200 years ago. By your logic we should keep football with leather helmets and a goal post in the middle of the endzone because evolution in basic society doesn’t matter.


I bet you would wish a Good Samaritan had a gun to disarm a mass shooter.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 1:03 pm to
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ChiGator

More people are murdered annually with blunt objects like hammers than they are with rifles (and that's ALL rifles, not just evil scary ones like an AR15).
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44048 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 3:10 pm to
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You can call something anything you want. But the definition of assault is either a verb or a noun, not an adjective.

And no, they would never use the term "assault rifle" in any law. Because again, it doesn't exist.

So sports cars and dump trucks don't exist? How about basketball coaches?

Are you serious with that weak-assed shite?

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OMG, there's no such thing as an "assault rifle" because "assault" is either a noun or a verb!!1!


Here you go:

Nouns as Adjectives | When Nouns Act Like Adjectives

No charge.



Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44048 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 3:24 pm to
quote:

you must not pay attention to many laws.

I certainly try not to.
quote:

most politicians want to leave things open to interpretations

I never said it would be a clear definition.

But, I probably would look back to see if there have been comparable laws in the past to see what kind of language to expect...


Oh, look, here's one:

May 16, 1994

Read the second time and placed on the calendar





Calendar No. 426
103d CONGRESS
2d Session
H. R. 4296

To make unlawful the transfer or possession of assault weapons.


_______________________________________________________________________


IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES

May 10 (legislative day, May 2), 1994

Received and read the first time

May 16, 1994

Read the second time and placed on the calendar

_______________________________________________________________________

AN ACT



To make unlawful the transfer or possession of assault weapons.

...

The term `semiautomatic assault weapon' means--
``(A) any of the firearms, or copies or duplicates of the
firearms, known as--
``(i) Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies
Avtomat Kalashnikovs (all models);
``(ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI
and Galil;
``(iii) Beretta Ar70 (SC-70);
``(iv) Colt AR-15;
``(v) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and FNC;
``(vi) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9, and M-12;
``(vii) Steyr AUG;
``(viii) INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22; and
``(ix) revolving cylinder shotguns, such as (or
similar to) the Street Sweeper and Striker 12;
``(B) a semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a
detachable magazine and has at least 2 of--
``(i) a folding or telescoping stock;
``(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously
beneath the action of the weapon;
``(iii) a bayonet mount;
``(iv) a flash suppressor or threaded barrel
designed to accommodate a flash suppressor; and
``(v) a grenade launcher;
``(C) a semiautomatic pistol that has an ability to accept
a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of--
``(i) an ammunition magazine that attaches to the
pistol outside of the pistol grip;
``(ii) a threaded barrel capable of accepting a
barrel extender, flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or
silencer;
``(iii) a shroud that is attached to, or partially
or completely encircles, the barrel and that permits
the shooter to hold the firearm with the nontrigger
hand without being burned;
``(iv) a manufactured weight of 50 ounces or more
when the pistol is unloaded; and
``(v) a semiautomatic version of an automatic
firearm; and
``(D) a semiautomatic shotgun that has at least 2 of--
``(i) a folding or telescoping stock;
``(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously
beneath the action of the weapon;
``(iii) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of 5
rounds; and
``(iv) an ability to accept a detachable
magazine.''.

LINK




I'd pretty much bet that's kind of how the definition of an assault weapon might look in the text of a law banning assault weapons.
Posted by ChiGator
Member since Nov 2020
3264 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 3:49 pm to
Comparing Chicago’s violence (or any urban city) to Mass Shootings is absurd. But I wouldn’t expect some ignorant hillbilly to understand or care.

Chicago’s inner city violence is centered around gangs, which in turn has been driven by poverty, drugs, shitty schools, lack of funding broken families, etc. This violence is located in heavy gang led areas of the city. It’s a terrible situation and the result of shitty leadership, politics, segregation.

Chicago’s gang violence has nothing to do with some lunatic shooting up a school, mall, grocery store. They’re completely different problems. Solving gang violence is objectively a harder problem to solve vs the mass shooting problem.
This post was edited on 7/18/22 at 3:54 pm
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 3:56 pm to
Most mass shootings involve handguns though.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
15815 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 4:57 pm to
quote:

Chicago’s gang violence has nothing to do with some lunatic shooting up a school, mall, grocery store. They’re completely different problems. Solving gang violence is objectively a harder problem to solve vs the mass shooting problem.


Obviously Chicago needs stricter gun laws right? Or is it ok to kill a couple hundred as long as it’s in 1s and 2s? Or is it because of the racial makeup of the gangs?

Why is it ok to kill hundreds as long as it’s spaced out but if you kill 3 or more at one time the sky is falling?


But back to the point…. Is the softer more PC Florida in trouble?
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22474 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 5:16 pm to
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Comparing Chicago’s violence (or any urban city) to Mass Shootings is absurd. But I wouldn’t expect some ignorant hillbilly to understand or care.

Chicago’s inner city violence is centered around gangs, which in turn has been driven by poverty, drugs, shitty schools, lack of funding broken families, etc. This violence is located in heavy gang led areas of the city. It’s a terrible situation and the result of shitty leadership, politics, segregation.

Chicago’s gang violence has nothing to do with some lunatic shooting up a school, mall, grocery store. They’re completely different problems. Solving gang violence is objectively a harder problem to solve vs the mass shooting problem.


When I was in highschool, my school had a rifle range. We shot .22 rifles there once a year for a week, learned gun safety and such.

We were allowed to bring guns to school, but we had to keep them in our vehicles. That was the only rule.

0 school shootings.

Why is it always the guns fault when these things happen? The only exception is when it's a cop that fires the gun.
Posted by Dawgholio
Bugtussle
Member since Oct 2015
13047 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 5:19 pm to
I’m just going to call him puss-15
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