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re: Florida has the best Governor
Posted on 8/26/21 at 8:28 am to SaturdayNAthens
Posted on 8/26/21 at 8:28 am to SaturdayNAthens
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This idiot should be locked up for endangering the people of Fla. God knows how many people have died or lost loved ones because of his blind ambition to be the next president.
Melt.
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Posted on 8/26/21 at 8:37 am to dirty bastard
What is spineless about Kemp? Seems to me like he just follows the law.
Posted on 8/26/21 at 8:38 am to Chad 23
Pretty sure McMaster won't require any of this BS either. Not like I like McMaster, but I am just saying he 99% won't.
Posted on 8/26/21 at 8:40 am to Parrish_Dawg
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How does "President DeSantis" sound to you? You should prepare yourself.
DeSantis is another Mitt Romney unless he is blessed enough to face off against Kamala Harris rather than another Weekend at Bernies situation with Joe Biden. He lacks the charisma of Trump. He will not be able to inspire the "he's an outsider" vote because he is just a part of the blob aping the features of populism.
This post was edited on 8/26/21 at 8:42 am
Posted on 8/26/21 at 8:56 am to Chad 23
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Florida has the best Governor
Yes, you do.
I wish Gov. Ivey were not so deferential to the "experts" who have been wrong about everything and who are really just bureaucrats with a talent for acquiring power and allocating money to people who suck up to them. Part of the reason they got the positions they are in is that they are very good at knowing what their power chain above them wants them to say and have done and saying it and doing it.
DeSantis is diligent and legitimately brilliant and thinks for himself. One man who thinks for himself using the data available usually outperforms bureaucracies who just repeat the things they are told to say.
Posted on 8/26/21 at 8:57 am to dawgfan24348
There’s a reason Florida is and has always been the laughing stock of this country.
Posted on 8/26/21 at 9:02 am to dirty bastard
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There's a bunch of liberal bitches in here. Wish covid would take all of you out.
Unfortunately for you, the “liberal bitches” are the ones actually getting vaccinated.
Posted on 8/26/21 at 9:03 am to bgator85
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Whether you like him or not, he took an early victory lap and it's certainly not a good look considering what has been transpiring in Florida over the last few weeks.
Current 7 day moving average death rate for people with COVID in Florida = .093% (20 deaths a day and 21,604 cases). A state with one of the highest elderly populations in the country.
The United States? 0.57%. (809 deaths vs 142,029 cases).
Damn that DeSantis for killing everyone!
Posted on 8/26/21 at 9:04 am to Chad 23
Can’t disagree. Wish he was POTUS instead of the demented clown.
Posted on 8/26/21 at 9:10 am to MFn GIMP
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Current 7 day moving average death rate for people with COVID in Florida = .093% (20 deaths a day and 21,604 cases). A state with one of the highest elderly populations in the country.
The United States? 0.57%. (809 deaths vs 142,029 cases).
Damn that DeSantis for killing everyone!
One side cites the actual data. The other emphasizes obeying the authorities in which they repose trust and the evil of those who will not comply with the demands of the tribe.
Posted on 8/26/21 at 9:15 am to SaturdayNAthens
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SaturdayNAthens
Jesus christ - I hate posting in these threads but these takes are some of the most ill informed you can have.
In terms of actually "following the science", DeSantis has probably done that more than any governor outside of MAYBE Larry Hogan.
- In Mar/Apr 2020 he immediately shut down nursing homes, you know what Florida has a lot of and mandated testing for all entress
- Earlier in 2021 before it was even federally mandated, he prioritized vaccinating the elderly
- He has been a constant advocate for everyone that is medically able to get vaccinated
- He's intently focused on getting kids back to the most "normal" in person schooling they can have in the environment and statistics, which is, you know, the most important aspect of long-term inequality that everyone was so focused on last year
No doubt he politicizes the issues, as does every politician. But the fact that he's gotten multiple positive shout outs from fricking Bill Maher should tell you everything you need to know.
But if you prefer statistics, as I do, notice that Florida, one of the most populated states of elderly in the US, has middle of the pack mortality rates. That should at least qualm your fears to a point.
Keep in mind I'm a bleeding heart moderate capitalist that hates both sides. Stop watching the fricking news.
This post was edited on 8/26/21 at 9:17 am
Posted on 8/26/21 at 9:35 am to Diego Ricardo
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DeSantis sucks arse. He’s a big government megalomaniac like Abbott. Of course, all y’all small gubment cons don’t see it that way because it is all in service of “owning da libs.”
This is why I'm a moderate.
Posted on 8/26/21 at 9:40 am to SaturdayNAthens
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SaturdayNAthens
you're a nutjob
Posted on 8/26/21 at 9:47 am to BennyAndTheInkJets
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This is why I'm a moderate.
I just don't get why people laud DeSantis for taking away the agile, local-level response capability of municipal governments and school districts. Do we need statewide or nationwide lockdowns? No.
Do we need schools to be able to decide that they need to go remote to facilitate some learning when they do not have enough available personnel due to COVID precautions to open a school facility instead of using weather days? Yes.
Do we need regional responses to their medical system getting swamped and edging towards being unable to respond to normal levels of emergency medical situations? Yes.
In my opinion, Kay Ivey has been the best governor in the Deep South during the pandemic. She's pulled back the state-level mandates when it was sensible and left most of the decision making to the municipalities and school districts. Everyone else seems to be self-aggrandizing rather than leading.
This post was edited on 8/26/21 at 9:48 am
Posted on 8/26/21 at 10:47 am to Diego Ricardo
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I just don't get why people laud DeSantis for taking away the agile, local-level response capability of municipal governments and school districts. Do we need statewide or nationwide lockdowns? No.
OK - I apologize, I inferred too much off your crazy post above. Your clarification I agree with. I'm a big believer in the Von Mises/Hayek/etc approach to economics of individual human incentive being the best course of humanity over the long term, and your clarification is in line with that. Every single human/community should make their own decisions.
I disagree with the notion that DeSantis took that away, but I'll avoid that subject since its less important.
Just please tone down the crazy rhetoric a bit, sir, it makes the other side and independents like me make false assumptions about the rest of your thoughts. Your thoughts are very welcome, especially those that I disagree with.
Posted on 8/26/21 at 11:02 am to dawgfan24348
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DeSantis was for removing funding from schools that require masks that is literally him forcing his personal opinions on others.
Holy shite, quit embarrassing uga fans with your idiocy.
Unless he makes a rule that says kids can’t choose to wear masks, he is on the side of freedom to choose.
He is literally protecting kids from being forced to wear masks.
Posted on 8/26/21 at 11:41 am to djsdawg
Having been a kid once, there are probably more kids that wish DeSantis would protect their freedom to wear crop tops and body piercings to school than their freedom to not wear a mask.
Posted on 8/26/21 at 12:14 pm to Diego Ricardo
I completely disagree with your assessment of him, but we're entitled to our opinions. We'll see what transpires.
Posted on 8/26/21 at 1:09 pm to Gore Vidal
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not gonna move the needle, most Americans dgaf about Afghanistan, should've never been there in the first pla
And yet we are. Let some civilian Americans die over there and a lot of needles will be moving. Even the liberal media is taking shots at Joe over his handling of this. Our allies are none too happy.
And the media made huge deals out of Trump taking a second scoop of ice cream.
Posted on 8/26/21 at 1:22 pm to DawgsLife
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And yet we are. Let some civilian Americans die over there and a lot of needles will be moving. Even the liberal media is taking shots at Joe over his handling of this. Our allies are none too happy.
The Democratic Dove is mostly an anachronism. In some respects the thing true liberals - centrist types - hate more than anything is poorly prosecuted war. All those newly blue parts of Virginia live off the fat of using places like Afghanistan to funnel taxpayer money out of the country and eventually back into Northern Virginia and other places that are essentially regional economies propped up by the DOD.
Probably the only thing I really stand up for Biden on was getting the hell out of Afghanistan. Anyone who is trying to sell you that there was some kind of exit out of there that wasn't going to be chaotic is basically selling you ocean front property in Arizona. You don't just cut off a big spigot of money from an economy and remove the security from collaborators with our government without some chaos. I just have a hard time caring about that mess. If China occupied the US for 20 years, I'd hope all the buttholes of the collaborators puckered up when their daddy leaves.
Also fwiw, the vast majority of American civilians still in the country at this point are dipshit civilians who went over there and stuck their dick in an Afghani woman and they can't leave as easily because their family isn't naturalized citizens of the United States.
This post was edited on 8/26/21 at 1:26 pm
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