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re: Fire up the coaches board. Wade, Oates and Pearl are on the list for the Louisville job
Posted on 1/26/22 at 8:32 am to higgsBoson
Posted on 1/26/22 at 8:32 am to higgsBoson
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There’s more that coaches want than winning. They also want to work with top notch individuals and build a great work culture. They also want high levels of fan engagement. Louisville’s arena is over 2X the size of Auburns. Louisville is a program with national fan exposure. A sweet sixteen Louisville team probably has more fan engagement than an Auburn national championship team would. Bruce Pearl might not care about it or maybe wants to try and create that environment, but it’s a real thing that people care about.
Auburn has a high level of fan engagement and we currently have the #1 projected NBA draft pick and some other 5-stars on the team. He can have all of this at Auburn. Besides, Bruce loves our football program (not sure he wants to be at a basketball school), he regularly attends games (he uses them as a recruiting tool) and I am sure it’s also pretty beneficial to interact with influential people such as Tim Cook (wo attended the Iron bowl), Charles Barkley, Bo Jackson, etc…
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 8:34 am to WildcatMike
Pearl not going anywhere: no other college offers the ambience to cloak his odor
Posted on 1/26/22 at 8:48 am to Irons Puppet
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Without any on the court accomplishments. Bruce is doing it at Auburn due partially to location. Check his roster the last 5 years. Not sure how well that would work at Louisville.
Auburn fans not mentioning four years probation Pearl got them.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 8:49 am to BluegrassBelle
With a healthy AD and some resolution to their off-the-court bull shite (that extends well beyond the AD), they’re a Top 10 basketball job. The problem is they’re mired with major issues across the board in positions that matter.
She knows what she's talking about.
The other elephant in the room is, well, the city of Louisville. I live right outside of it, and drive there most days for contract work. It's a city in decline. For a long time, a couple decades now, Louisville has been a Mid Atlantic city stuck in the Midwest. It's really starting to show.
Unless Pearl is a dedicated urbanite, he's not going to like what he sees on a visit to Louisville. Although, in all fairness, the marksmanship around here is improving. The street hoods aren't Baltimore level good yet, but way better than in Chicago.
She knows what she's talking about.
The other elephant in the room is, well, the city of Louisville. I live right outside of it, and drive there most days for contract work. It's a city in decline. For a long time, a couple decades now, Louisville has been a Mid Atlantic city stuck in the Midwest. It's really starting to show.
Unless Pearl is a dedicated urbanite, he's not going to like what he sees on a visit to Louisville. Although, in all fairness, the marksmanship around here is improving. The street hoods aren't Baltimore level good yet, but way better than in Chicago.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 9:18 am to WildcatMike
This was surely posted before the Bama/Georgia game last night!
Posted on 1/26/22 at 9:21 am to AUreo
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Auburn has a high level of fan engagement and we currently have the #1 projected NBA draft pick and some other 5-stars on the team. He can have all of this at Auburn. Besides, Bruce loves our football program (not sure he wants to be at a basketball school), he regularly attends games (he uses them as a recruiting tool) and I am sure it’s also pretty beneficial to interact with influential people such as Tim Cook (wo attended the Iron bowl), Charles Barkley, Bo Jackson, etc…
This horseshite is called "whistling past the graveyard"!
Posted on 1/26/22 at 9:22 am to Referee
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Auburn fans not mentioning four years probation Pearl got them.
This year while on probation has been excruciating. 19-1 hell.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 9:22 am to higgsBoson
quote:Posted by someone that hasn’t been paying attention to basketball recently.
A sweet sixteen Louisville team probably has more fan engagement than an Auburn national championship team would.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 9:24 am to higgsBoson
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There’s more that coaches want than winning. They also want to work with top notch individuals and build a great work culture. They also want high levels of fan engagement. Louisville’s arena is over 2X the size of Auburns. Louisville is a program with national fan exposure. A sweet sixteen Louisville team probably has more fan engagement than an Auburn national championship team would. Bruce Pearl might not care about it or maybe wants to try and create that environment, but it’s a real thing that people care about.
Mostly they want money and no ceiling - ie, facilities, enough prestige, enough media respect, enough recruiting juice.
Bruce has that at Auburn, it appears. Of course, legacy and glory matter to a lot of people. And Bruce may see the UL program in that light.
But to me UL seems like one of the worst candidates. It's a trashy school with loyal but undesirable fan support. It's not a well rounded school with a good brand outside of basketball. It's got culture and NCAA trouble. I just think there is a huge drop off in being beloved by Duke/UNC/Kansas/Kentucky people and having a statue/being loved by Memphis or UL people. Duke and UNC are good academic schools with storied campuses and college towns and with lots of influential alums. Kansas and Kentucky are bigger all around brands with broader fan bases and more non-basketball prestige.
I guess I could make the case that Bruce is unlikely to ever be considered for the job at Kansas/Duke/UNC or Kentucky, so if he wants in on the old basketball powerhouses this may be his chance.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 9:25 am to coachcrisp
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This horseshite is called "whistling past the graveyard"!
You should probably be hoping they lock on to Oats and you can go get a competitive coach
Posted on 1/26/22 at 9:50 am to Pettifogger
quote:"I guess I could make the case"
I guess I could make the case that Bruce is unlikely to ever be considered for the job at Kansas/Duke/UNC or Kentucky, so if he wants in on the old basketball powerhouses this may be his chance.
You're fricking "A" you could!
You're correct in your comparative assessment of the two schools, but imo, Pearl's ego (Louisville,s advantage) would weigh very heavy in any decision. I'm guessing the money would swing toward Louisville, but I could be wrong.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 9:53 am to Pettifogger
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You should probably be hoping they lock on to Oats and you can go get a competitive coach
Do I detect fear in your post?
Posted on 1/26/22 at 9:53 am to RelentlessTide
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Pearl not going anywhere: no other college offers the ambience to cloak his odor
It really is a perfect match unfortunately. Most penalized school in the SEC is perfect.
This post was edited on 1/26/22 at 9:56 am
Posted on 1/26/22 at 9:55 am to WildcatMike
Louisville Basketball and Auburn Football are very similar programs as far as history and success (and paying second fiddle in their state). So to Auburn fans, think of the list of football programs you think you could get their coach from, are they bigger football programs than Auburn basketball with a handful of NCAA tournament appearances?
Posted on 1/26/22 at 9:58 am to coachcrisp
I said from the beginning that Oats is just another in the long line of "Fruit of the Month" coaching hires. It is showing up now more than ever.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 10:03 am to Irons Puppet
quote:Really?
I said from the beginning that Oats is just another in the long line of "Fruit of the Month" coaching hires. It is showing up now more than ever.
Then why is he even being mentioned as one of three coaches for the Louisville job?
Hell, I hope nobody is interested in him.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 10:08 am to DayBowBow
You are living in the past. You think Louisville still has that Big East reputation and Auburn has the worst program in the SEC still playing in BEC. You still believe the SEC in BB is UK and 9 other programs waiting for Spring Football to start. Not anywhere like that now for both UL and Auburn.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 10:09 am to BluegrassBelle
Louisville is a dumpster fire right now. Five years from now maybe not. But for Pearl to go there now makes no sense.
Besides Mack was a good hire but with that culture there his program went to hell. They won’t do any better and could do a lot worse.
Now I’m hearing Kenny Payne and I can’t see him leaving the Knicks to go to that shitshow.
Besides Mack was a good hire but with that culture there his program went to hell. They won’t do any better and could do a lot worse.
Now I’m hearing Kenny Payne and I can’t see him leaving the Knicks to go to that shitshow.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 10:11 am to DayBowBow
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Louisville Basketball and Auburn Football are very similar programs as far as history and success (and paying second fiddle in their state). So to Auburn fans, think of the list of football programs you think you could get their coach from, are they bigger football programs than Auburn basketball with a handful of NCAA tournament appearances?
I think you'd need to put more parameters on this. What's a school that's currently elite in football despite being historically bad, in arguably the current-best football conference and with a high end athletic brand/department and a big national brand outside of football?
The best I could come up with is like Dave Aranda at Baylor.
Posted on 1/26/22 at 10:12 am to higgsBoson
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higgsBoson
That truly may be one of, if not THE, most idiotic posts ever on this board.
I do not just give out that designation lightly.
In your case, it is very well deserved.
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