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re: Fight Jeff Long, Fight. - Arkansas
Posted on 6/1/12 at 7:02 pm to SunHog
Posted on 6/1/12 at 7:02 pm to SunHog
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Don't confuse worrying with making fun of state with twice the population, producing significantly less revenue than Arkansas
Hmmm. I wonder what Arkansas revenue would be had they been in the big 12 instead of the SEC? And I wonder where Mizzou will fit into that revenue list once we've had the advantages that come with being in the SEC for 20 years? Your OP was absurd, and your arguments in support of it are losing.
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Posted on 6/1/12 at 7:03 pm to SunHog
Posted on 6/1/12 at 7:03 pm to deltaland
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"under the table" deals.
Exactly what I said Jeff Long should be doing.
This $$$ talks, nothing else. The SEC has basically thrown out all tradition except for just a little left those are facts.
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That only benefits Arkansas. Not the SEC
Think bigger. Does having nicer facilities and recruiting better players to a school produce more TV money and games within a conference, yes. They go together.
Arkansas and South Carolina additions have been superb. Each school has already passed "charter" members in terms of money, championships and TV audiences.
Posted on 6/1/12 at 7:04 pm to SunHog
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SunHog
GTFO, DIAF with your California ideas
Posted on 6/1/12 at 7:04 pm to semotruman
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Hmmm. I wonder what Arkansas revenue would be had they been in the big 12 instead of the SEC? And I wonder where Mizzou will fit into that revenue list once we've had the advantages that come with being in the SEC for 20 years? Your OP was absurd, and your arguments in support of it are losing.
Read and stay current! TV money is a 1/3 of a programs revenue.
Missouri is extremely sad when WVU produces more while in the BigEast. That, sir, is pathetic.
Posted on 6/1/12 at 7:06 pm to ArHog
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GTFO, DIAF with your California ideas
Be extremely glad someone from our state isn't running the AD position. We've been 2 for 2 with outside hires that are rockstars.
Posted on 6/1/12 at 7:06 pm to SunHog
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SunHog
Posted on 6/1/12 at 7:07 pm to SunHog
SunHog musta found hisself a BOGO on worms!
Posted on 6/1/12 at 7:07 pm to SunHog
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Ok. And that's revenue from ticket sales and such. That only benefits Arkansas. Not the SEC... with that you are not a valuable asset to the SEC. What is valuable to the SEC is a team winning bowl games/championships, and more TV time. A team like VA Tech would do just as good as Arkansas in those areas. The schools own revenue just helps the school improve itself. And that chart is a little misleading because it shows who was most profitable. Arkansas did well managing their own money. Arkansas is 7th in the SEC in gross revenue earned. You do not hold that much pull in that aspect either.
The State fan nailed it. Sunhog just don't get it.
Posted on 6/1/12 at 7:08 pm to SunHog
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You do realize the Big12 is as strong as when Mizzou and TAMU left.
You don't have a clue about that which you're talking.
The B12 is a disaster--completely owned & controlled by one dysfunctional member. It's a ticking time bomb. OU & OSU will be in the PAC-whatevever, sooner rather than later (pun unintentional). Have fun longing for that cesspool.
(for the record: I was able to catch as many SEC baseball tourney games on TV as I wanted. Ask me how many B12 tourney games were televised [hint ... nuthin' 'til the finals]).
If you're going to toss around laughable threats, you're better off threatening that Arkansas will go independent.
Posted on 6/1/12 at 7:08 pm to semotruman
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Hmmm. I wonder what Arkansas revenue would be had they been in the big 12 instead of the SEC? And I wonder where Mizzou will fit into that revenue list once we've had the advantages that come with being in the SEC for 20 years? Your OP was absurd, and your arguments in support of it are losing.
Dont worry bout him. None of his arguments make much sense. Arkansas and Missouri are a different dynamic and while Missouri has more population is also has more professional teams that dilute disposable income in the state that could otherwise go to the Missouri AD.
He is a spin master who ties personal self worth to a Universities' Athletic Department.
This thread is just his official outing.
What a load of BS.
This post was edited on 6/1/12 at 7:09 pm
Posted on 6/1/12 at 7:09 pm to SunHog
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That, sir, is pathetic
Fail. I would be a Ms.
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Missouri is extremely sad when WVU produces more while in the BigEast
Last time I checked, the Big East television market is significant. And WVU is the only game in their town, so to speak. They enjoy the distinct lack of competition from other sporting interests, sort of like...Arkansas.
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TV money is a 1/3 of a programs revenue.
OK. Again, I would theorize that Arkansas revenues would not be where they are had they not moved to the SEC, and that Mizzou's will go up significantly after a few years in the SEC.
Posted on 6/1/12 at 7:09 pm to SunHog
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Think bigger. Does having nicer facilities and recruiting better players to a school produce more TV money and games within a conference, yes. They go together.
Of course. But if you add a solid school from another conference with a large fan support (i.e. Clemson or Va. Tech) then the effect of the SEC will take place and the same will happen to them. They are no different than Arkansas was in 1992, they are actually probably a little better off in terms of relevance.
I expect Texas A&M to be a force in the SEC in 5 years... they have the money, faciitites, fanbase, etc. to do it.
There are no schools that could replace UGA, Florida, Alabama, LSU.
There are schools that could replace Arkansas and be just as important to the SEC.
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Arkansas and South Carolina additions have been superb. Each school has already passed "charter" members in terms of money, championships and TV audiences.
Ya'll have passed the bottom dwellers. You haven't passed the big guys. Look at Total Revenue, not profit. You are at 7th, right above the bottom dwellers and USCe.
Posted on 6/1/12 at 7:11 pm to deltaland
did Sunhog graduate from Baylor?
Posted on 6/1/12 at 7:12 pm to SunHog
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Don't confuse worrying with making fun of state with twice the population, producing significantly less revenue than Arkansas.
Mizzou has to share the wealth of the population with 5 major pro sports franchises. You can't be this ignorant to ignore this fact.
Posted on 6/1/12 at 7:12 pm to deltaland
LOL at you Corndogs!
It don't make a crap when we play you. You are on our schedule. YOU SCREWWWED.
It don't make a crap when we play you. You are on our schedule. YOU SCREWWWED.
Posted on 6/1/12 at 7:12 pm to kilo
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professional teams that dilute disposable income in the state that could otherwise go to the Missouri AD.
You're the only school who uses this excuse.
UGA, Florida and LSU all have pro teams in their states and they never bring it up.
Posted on 6/1/12 at 7:14 pm to deltaland
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Ok. And that's revenue from ticket sales and such. That only benefits Arkansas. Not the SEC... with that you are not a valuable asset to the SEC. What is valuable to the SEC is a team winning bowl games/championships, and more TV time.
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The schools own revenue just helps the school improve itself.
This.
Posted on 6/1/12 at 7:14 pm to EKG
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You don't have a clue about that which you're talking.
Umm.. Yes we do. We started expansion by leaving the SWC. The Big12 now is not the same Big12 you left and won't be if FSU joins.
Texas is awful no one is debating that. No one is going independent that business model died this past year with expansion.
The Big12 needs FSU and Arkansas to obtain SEC level therefore Arkansas has a lot to ask for to even consider. Jeff Long can easily play both sides wanting to the LSU game to stay on Thanksgiving weekend.
If y'all don't think everyone is fighting for themselves on scheduling... Wow. Even Ole Miss won't vote for 6-2 format just to keep Vanderbilt.
Posted on 6/1/12 at 7:15 pm to NBamaAlum
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Arky came with one pair of underwear and a $10 bill..and won't change either.
This has reminded me how much I love the movie The Jerk. I might even go watch it. 
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