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Posted on 2/28/24 at 9:56 am
Posted on 2/28/24 at 9:56 am
Net Domestic Migration by State, 2020-2023:
The Top 10 States
+563,000 Florida
+424,000 Texas
+204,000 North Carolina
+153,000 Arizona
+152,000 South Carolina
+132,000 Tennessee
+117,000 Georgia
+ 80,000 Idaho
+ 56,000 Alabama
+ 53,000 Oklahoma
7 of the Top 10 in the new SEC footprint, plus North Carolina makes 8 of the Top 10 for the South.
The Bottom 10 States:
- 36,000 Minnesota
- 37,000 THE Ohio
- 38,000 Michigan
- 63,000 Maryland
- 75,000 Louisiana
- 84,000 Massachusetts
- 98,000 New Jersey
-257,000 Illinois
-595,000 New York
-802,000 California
Seeing a lot of BIG10 states on that list.
SEC States NOT in the Top 10 or Bottom 10 (sorry Louisiana) are these:
14. Arkansas (+36,000)
17. Missouri (+22,000)
21. Kentucky (+13,000)
32. Mississippi (-9,000)
The Top 10 States
+563,000 Florida
+424,000 Texas
+204,000 North Carolina
+153,000 Arizona
+152,000 South Carolina
+132,000 Tennessee
+117,000 Georgia
+ 80,000 Idaho
+ 56,000 Alabama
+ 53,000 Oklahoma
7 of the Top 10 in the new SEC footprint, plus North Carolina makes 8 of the Top 10 for the South.
The Bottom 10 States:
- 36,000 Minnesota
- 37,000 THE Ohio
- 38,000 Michigan
- 63,000 Maryland
- 75,000 Louisiana
- 84,000 Massachusetts
- 98,000 New Jersey
-257,000 Illinois
-595,000 New York
-802,000 California
Seeing a lot of BIG10 states on that list.
SEC States NOT in the Top 10 or Bottom 10 (sorry Louisiana) are these:
14. Arkansas (+36,000)
17. Missouri (+22,000)
21. Kentucky (+13,000)
32. Mississippi (-9,000)
This post was edited on 2/28/24 at 9:58 am
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Posted on 2/28/24 at 9:59 am to AUTiger789
As a Louisiana resident, I don’t see this as a problem. The fewer people, the happier I am.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:02 am to geauxbrown
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As a Louisiana resident, I don’t see this as a problem. The fewer people, the happier I am.
I mean I get what you are saying. Sparse population is a good thing if you like peace and quiet.
But when you LOSE population you once had, there is nothing good about it. It’s a major drag on the economy. There are fewer jobs, fewer companies, and a lower tax base.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:04 am to AUTiger789
****BREAKING NEWS*******
People like better weather
People like better weather
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:04 am to AUTiger789
- 36,000 Minnesota - Democrat Gov.
- 38,000 Michigan - Democrat Gov.
- 63,000 Maryland - Democrat Gov.
- 75,000 Louisiana - Democrat Gov.
- 84,000 Massachusetts - Democrat Gov.
- 98,000 New Jersey - Democrat Gov.
-257,000 Illinois - Democrat Gov.
-595,000 New York - Democrat Gov.
-802,000 California - Democrat Gov.
- 38,000 Michigan - Democrat Gov.
- 63,000 Maryland - Democrat Gov.
- 75,000 Louisiana - Democrat Gov.
- 84,000 Massachusetts - Democrat Gov.
- 98,000 New Jersey - Democrat Gov.
-257,000 Illinois - Democrat Gov.
-595,000 New York - Democrat Gov.
-802,000 California - Democrat Gov.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:04 am to geauxbrown
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As a Louisiana resident, I don’t see this as a problem. The fewer people, the happier I am.
It's a cycle. People will get tired of traffic and prices in the south and move other places. Then it will flip again.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:04 am to halfadolla50
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People like better weather
People don’t like high taxes and shitty fricking politics.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:05 am to AUTiger789
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+152,000 South Carolina
I think this is most surprising out of anything. I understand NC with Charlotte and the crazy growth in the triangle.
But what's the deal with the SC? Old farts flocking to HH & Charleston?
This post was edited on 2/28/24 at 10:05 am
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:05 am to AUTiger789
much of our population loss was due to the two hurricanes but we are steadily losing our best and brightest, unfortunately. been that away for 2+ decades now.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:10 am to lsu777
New Orleans metro is now down under 1 million…. It’s now 973,000 as of 2022. That’s well smaller than even Birmingham which is not at all a growth juggernaut itself.
Just terrible leadership and mismanagement for what was once one of America’s great cities. The storms have exacerbated the problem for sure.
Just terrible leadership and mismanagement for what was once one of America’s great cities. The storms have exacerbated the problem for sure.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:10 am to Tuscaloosa
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People don’t like high taxes and shitty fricking politics.
Eh all of those places are automatically eliminated from my considerations just cause of the location except Cali & Maybe Maryland
Mass, Minn, MI? Absolutely not
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:13 am to AUTiger789
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+424,000 Texas
-802,000 California
Pretty sure these stats are off. Seems like all 800K departing Californians moved to Austin alone.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:14 am to AUTiger789
Looks to me like people are moving from shitty liberal policy states to conservative bastions
This post was edited on 2/28/24 at 10:15 am
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:14 am to halfadolla50
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People like better weather
The weather hasn't mattered to them for a couple hundred years and it doesn't matter now.
They're moving here for quality of life reasons.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:17 am to halfadolla50
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****BREAKING NEWS*******
People like better weather
Utah, Montana, Maine, Delaware, New Hampshire, South Dakota, Colorado, Vermont, Connecticut, Wyoming, and West Virginia all saw positive net migration during the same time period.
Those states aren’t exactly known for their warm weather.
California was also the biggest loser… probably the #1 state for weather.
When California, Louisiana, and Hawaii are losing residents to South Dakota, West Virginia, and Indiana, it should tell you it actually has very little to do with the weather.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:18 am to AUTiger789
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-595,000 New York
Did an internship in New York 15+ years ago. Loved the city. Was back in Manhattan last week for the first time and shocked at how far it’s fallen. Pretty sad to see. Made downtown Houston look utopian.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:22 am to jonnyanony
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It's a cycle. People will get tired of traffic and prices in the south and move other places. Then it will flip again.
It all depends on tax policies actually. People don’t mind high prices if their income and amount they take home rises along with those prices. It’s when prices rise and they have to start paying more in taxes that cause them to leave.
This is why Austin is booming. If you hate high prices and traffic, you’d never want to live there. Yet it’s booming. Why? Because that little blue dot is saved by Texas’ no state income tax and overall low tax policies.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:23 am to AUTiger789
O dang.
Didn’t see domestic.
Didn’t see domestic.
This post was edited on 2/28/24 at 10:25 am
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:29 am to geauxbrown
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As a Louisiana resident, I don’t see this as a problem. The fewer people, the happier I am
Sounds good but the people moving are taxpayers. That means the taxpayers remaining have to pull more weight.
I defend LA a lot but I am actively telling my kids to look elsewhere when they get to the point of setting down roots.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:30 am to AUTiger789
I agree completely with your assessment of the leadership, but where’d you get your numbers?
Quick google search indicates:
Nola metro 1,013,000 people with .8% growth YoY ‘22 to ‘23
Birmingham metro 843,000 people with .82% growth YoY ‘22 to ‘23
Quick google search indicates:
Nola metro 1,013,000 people with .8% growth YoY ‘22 to ‘23
Birmingham metro 843,000 people with .82% growth YoY ‘22 to ‘23
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