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Even if OU,TX, USC,UCLA join Big 10 the SEC would still be the most powerful conference
Posted on 7/3/22 at 11:59 pm
Posted on 7/3/22 at 11:59 pm
Not even close.
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Posted on 7/4/22 at 12:00 am to BamaWins15
Posted on 7/4/22 at 12:58 am to BamaWins15
What if A&M were to join them?
How about Stanford, Washington and Oregon also and maybe Notre Dame?
Even if SEC picked up Miami, Fl State, and Clemson, plus some other ACC schools, it would probably do no better than match them.
Oregon //// Georgia
Stanford //// Tennessee
Washington //// Mississippi
USC //// Florida
UCLA //// NC State
Iowa //// Mississippi St
Wisconsin //// Missouri
Notre Dame //// Auburn
Texas //// Louisville
Texas A&M //// Fl State
Nebraska //// Kentucky
Michigan //// Clemson
Michigan St //// Arkansas
Ohio St. //// Alabama
Penn St. //// Miami
Oklahoma //// LSU
Northwestern //// Vanderbilt
Indiana //// Kentucky
Maryland //// South Carolina
Rutgers //// Georgia Tech
Illinois //// North Carolina
BYU //// Virginia
Utah //// Virginia Tech
Something like that- pretty even, but I think the B1G would control more eyeballs.
How about Stanford, Washington and Oregon also and maybe Notre Dame?
Even if SEC picked up Miami, Fl State, and Clemson, plus some other ACC schools, it would probably do no better than match them.
Oregon //// Georgia
Stanford //// Tennessee
Washington //// Mississippi
USC //// Florida
UCLA //// NC State
Iowa //// Mississippi St
Wisconsin //// Missouri
Notre Dame //// Auburn
Texas //// Louisville
Texas A&M //// Fl State
Nebraska //// Kentucky
Michigan //// Clemson
Michigan St //// Arkansas
Ohio St. //// Alabama
Penn St. //// Miami
Oklahoma //// LSU
Northwestern //// Vanderbilt
Indiana //// Kentucky
Maryland //// South Carolina
Rutgers //// Georgia Tech
Illinois //// North Carolina
BYU //// Virginia
Utah //// Virginia Tech
Something like that- pretty even, but I think the B1G would control more eyeballs.
This post was edited on 7/4/22 at 1:41 am
Posted on 7/4/22 at 12:59 am to BamaWins15
Lol no
Posted on 7/4/22 at 1:31 am to BamaWins15
While I don't think anybody with any sense about the state of the sport would say the SEC isn't easily in the driver's seat right now, that's a whole lot of fans, eyeballs, market geography, and blue-blood you're talking about there. And the B1G isn't exactly starting from ground zero on this thing.
This post was edited on 7/4/22 at 1:35 am
Posted on 7/4/22 at 7:10 am to BamaWins15
You’re not wrong. They can add whatever teams they want. SEC would still win more championships.
Posted on 7/4/22 at 8:20 am to BamaWins15
Agreed they could take every other team in the US and they would just join the other losers. The SEC has placed the most in the NFL. It's been going on long before Aggys and tigers joined and will continue. Recruits want to go to the NFL iron sharpens iron.
Posted on 7/4/22 at 9:28 am to BamaWins15
This is not in any shape, form or fashion about championships or anything that happens on the field, it’s about TV markets and money.
Posted on 7/4/22 at 9:43 am to BamaWins15
I love our jump to the SEC but that's wrong.
Bama, Georgia, and LSU are the big fish in the SEC
The big10 would have Michigan, Texas, Ohio State, USC, Oklahoma, Penn State.
Doesn't matter now cause the big fish in the SEC are gonna be Bama, LSU, Texas, Georgia, and Oklahoma. The NFC east is easier than this.
Bama, Georgia, and LSU are the big fish in the SEC
The big10 would have Michigan, Texas, Ohio State, USC, Oklahoma, Penn State.
Doesn't matter now cause the big fish in the SEC are gonna be Bama, LSU, Texas, Georgia, and Oklahoma. The NFC east is easier than this.
This post was edited on 7/4/22 at 9:44 am
Posted on 7/4/22 at 9:50 am to InkStainedWretch
It’s always about what happens on the field. Nothing else comes close.
Posted on 7/4/22 at 9:51 am to BamaWins15
Those are very significant brands playing on national TV every Saturday
Those B1G schools would get the richest TV contracts
NIL would elevate those B1G teams to Natty caliber, NFL 1st rounders all over the B1G
NIL changes the equation of which conference will dominate. The richest conference will.
Those B1G schools would get the richest TV contracts
NIL would elevate those B1G teams to Natty caliber, NFL 1st rounders all over the B1G
NIL changes the equation of which conference will dominate. The richest conference will.
Posted on 7/4/22 at 10:15 am to Willie_Mac
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Those are very significant brands playing on national TV every Saturday
Those B1G schools would get the richest TV contracts
Also would put the B1G firmly in prime recruiting grounds right next door to the SEC. The move for OU/UT wasn't just an offensive move. It was a defensive move as well. With A&M, OU, UT wrapped up, there's no plausible recruiting base for them to get a foot in the door.
Ofcourse Florida and the Carolina's still have some possibilities....
Posted on 7/4/22 at 10:25 am to MEd LSU
It is to fans but the dirty little secret is fans also are utterly irrelevant in the machinations that are going on now. This is about money and power by people who care not six cacas in Hades about the traditional fan base of college football or about traditions in general.
Fans think they hate this and NIL, etc.? Wait until everything settles into place and the powers that be who are driving this start messing with the game to attract new fans 18-45 … that’s the only age group they care about, if you’re older than that you’re irrelevant … in diverse demographics.
Think NASCAR on a quadruple dose of dianabol.
Fans think they hate this and NIL, etc.? Wait until everything settles into place and the powers that be who are driving this start messing with the game to attract new fans 18-45 … that’s the only age group they care about, if you’re older than that you’re irrelevant … in diverse demographics.
Think NASCAR on a quadruple dose of dianabol.
Posted on 7/4/22 at 10:49 am to InkStainedWretch
Y’all acting like those “new” teams don’t play on tv. It won’t change much on viewership. Things will basically remain the same.
Posted on 7/4/22 at 10:57 am to BamaWins15
If they remain the same, this doesn’t work. So the game is not going to remain the same, it will be changed to attract new eyes, they don’t care about the traditional fans because they’re not the “right” kind of fans.
Maybe that’s the thing that will finally push the SEC to go do it’s own thing, the way it wants to do it.
Maybe that’s the thing that will finally push the SEC to go do it’s own thing, the way it wants to do it.
Posted on 7/4/22 at 11:01 am to TrNabs
Big talk for someone who can't beat Kansas lol.
This post was edited on 7/4/22 at 11:02 am
Posted on 7/4/22 at 11:22 am to TrNabs
In what decade are we referring to texas as a big fish of the sec? Both Florida and auburn have a much better claim to that title. Lsu, bama, uga are the obvious ones, texas would fall more in line with UT and A&M
Posted on 7/4/22 at 11:50 am to BamaWins15
Wall Street Journal 2019 analysis for team values, top 20
UTx. >1.1B
tOSU. >1B
Bama. >1B
Michigan. >900M
Notre Dame. >900M
UGA. >800M
OU. >800M
Barn. >800M
LSU. >800M
Tenner. >700M
UF. >600M
A&M. >500M
Pedo. >500M
Wisconsin. >400M
Nebraska. >400M
Arkansas. >400M
USCe. >400M
Iowa. >400M
Washington. >400M
Michigan St. >300M
Adding OU/UTx give the SEC on overwhelming advantage in top money programs with 7 of the top 10. If we cede them to the B1G it looks pretty even in the top 20, but the B1G would be more top heavy with the top 4 of 5.
If the B1G got USC/UCLA/Dome/OU/UTx it’s a safe bet that their contract is worth more and along with the new NIL landscape they could be the more powerful conference.
tOSU and USC recruit Texas well, so adding OU/UTx was as much about locking down Texas recruiting as it was money.
UTx. >1.1B
tOSU. >1B
Bama. >1B
Michigan. >900M
Notre Dame. >900M
UGA. >800M
OU. >800M
Barn. >800M
LSU. >800M
Tenner. >700M
UF. >600M
A&M. >500M
Pedo. >500M
Wisconsin. >400M
Nebraska. >400M
Arkansas. >400M
USCe. >400M
Iowa. >400M
Washington. >400M
Michigan St. >300M
Adding OU/UTx give the SEC on overwhelming advantage in top money programs with 7 of the top 10. If we cede them to the B1G it looks pretty even in the top 20, but the B1G would be more top heavy with the top 4 of 5.
If the B1G got USC/UCLA/Dome/OU/UTx it’s a safe bet that their contract is worth more and along with the new NIL landscape they could be the more powerful conference.
tOSU and USC recruit Texas well, so adding OU/UTx was as much about locking down Texas recruiting as it was money.
Posted on 7/4/22 at 1:02 pm to rebsfan10
Since we haven't actually been in the conference yet, and our on field results in the last decade have been the worst in our history, you are correct. But if we are discussing revenue drivers, brands, media, etc. Then it really isn't a discussion.
Once Texas starts seeing success again on the field, then we will be pretty on par with Ohio State in terms of all the metrics that people measure a "big fish" by, and we actually surpassed them in the 2000's.
Once Texas starts seeing success again on the field, then we will be pretty on par with Ohio State in terms of all the metrics that people measure a "big fish" by, and we actually surpassed them in the 2000's.
Posted on 7/4/22 at 1:09 pm to ouflak
Take out the SEC schools and how many NC in the big 3 sports has the PAC12, Big10, and the Big12 had in the last 25 years?
The SEC schools, the original 10, dominate the big 3 sports, and even the newcomers to the SEC are doing well.
The Big 10 may not be starting from ground zero, but they are not far above it. It use to not be that way, but since the 1970's it has been the south rising.
The SEC schools, the original 10, dominate the big 3 sports, and even the newcomers to the SEC are doing well.
The Big 10 may not be starting from ground zero, but they are not far above it. It use to not be that way, but since the 1970's it has been the south rising.
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