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Posted on 5/18/25 at 6:38 pm to SidewalkTiger
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I don't accept lessons
That is abundantly clear.
Posted on 5/18/25 at 6:43 pm to SammyTiger
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nd 2 free loses.
Yeah, and some people want even more teams in the playoffs, without a hint of how dumb that is
Posted on 5/18/25 at 7:31 pm to HorninHouston
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have to consider the entire body of work. He won a lot at Washington.
Then BK would be way above Deboer
Posted on 5/18/25 at 7:34 pm to BamaBravesPackers
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Freeman had to earn his way into the final four and the NC game through a playoff system and you are claiming the standard is lowered???
Playing a playoff game at home vs an Indiana team that had no ranked wins all season is not the same as playing a playoff game at a neutral site vs an undefeated Bama or undefeated Clemson.
Kelly and Freeman coached under two entirely different sets of rules and formats at Notre Dame and until Freeman wins a championship there, they are the same.
Posted on 5/18/25 at 7:35 pm to Darindawg
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Then, last season after spending a bazillion dollars to buy all the best players they could
Yep I'm sure UGA wasn't spending any cash trying to win
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Buckeyes FINALLY made it to the playoffs
They are one of the teams who has made it the most regardless of year
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had the luxury of playing UGA with 4 injured starters including our QB.
That game you talk about UGA beating OSU in, OSU was without their top 2 WRs, their top 2 RBs, their top TE by the end of the game. But you certainly aren't acting like it doesn't count
Posted on 5/18/25 at 8:30 pm to John Casey
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Playing a playoff game at home vs an Indiana team that had no ranked wins all season is not the same as playing a playoff game at a neutral site vs an undefeated Bama or undefeated Clemson.
Kelly and Freeman coached under two entirely different sets of rules and formats at Notre Dame and until Freeman wins a championship there, they are the same.
You're right about Indiana but ND physically dominating a much more talented UGA team in the Sugar Bowl is something Kelly never did at ND.
Posted on 5/18/25 at 8:30 pm to Finch
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Then BK would be way above Deboer
Brian Kelly’s official record at Notre Dame was 92-39. That is a 70.2% winning percentage. If you give him credit for vacated games, he was 113-40. That is a 80.2% win percentage. All time, Brian Kelly’s record as a college head coach is 292-107-2. That is a 72.8% win percentage.
Kalen Deboer’s official record at Washington was 25-3. That is a 89.3% winning percentage. All time, Deboer’s record as a college head coach is 113-16. That is a 87.6% win percentage.
In summary, 72.8% < 87.6%.
Posted on 5/18/25 at 8:40 pm to BamaBravesPackers
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Wait, Freeman had to earn his way into the final four and the NC game through a playoff system and you are claiming the standard is lowered???
They absolutely have been lowered.
Notre Dame doesn't even make the 4 team playoff and certainly not the BCS championship, because they lost to a G5 at home.
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Anyone really think BK would have beaten the SEC champ at ND
I don't know, we never witnessed BK face an SEC champ with two losses and a backup quarterback.
It certainly would have been easier than facing 2018 Clemson or 2020 Bama though.
Folks do like to say that he beat #1 Clemson only because their starter was injured, no mention of that with Freeman/Georgia for some reason.
Notre Dame had more talent than both Indiana and Penn State, they were favored over all three teams but we're suddenly pretending Freeman is some savant for winning games he was favored in.
Posted on 5/18/25 at 8:42 pm to captdalton
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Brian Kelly’s official record at Notre Dame was 92-39. That is a 70.2% winning percentage. If you give him credit for vacated games, he was 113-40. That is a 80.2% win percentage. All time, Brian Kelly’s record as a college head coach is 292-107-2. That is a 72.8% win percentage.
Kalen Deboer’s official record at Washington was 25-3. That is a 89.3% winning percentage. All time, Deboer’s record as a college head coach is 113-16. That is a 87.6% win percentage.
In summary, 72.8% < 87.6%.
100%, I'd take DeBoer over BK today because of the winning percentage and age difference.
They're a lot more similar than most here will admit.
ETA- DeBoer is .780 at the Division I level
This post was edited on 5/18/25 at 9:04 pm
Posted on 5/18/25 at 8:43 pm to GoGators1995
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dominating a much more talented UGA team in the Sugar Bowl is something Kelly never did at ND.
Notre Dame ultimately lost both games, but Kelly had Notre Dame go toe to toe with two arguably better UGA teams in 2017 and 2019 than the 2025 UGA team Freeman beat.
The Notre Dame defense played lights out vs UGA in 2025, I'll concede that, but the difference in the game was a kickoff return TD and an INT from an inexperienced backup UGA QB where Smart was pressing for points at the end of a half.
The Notre Dame offense was awful vs UGA in 2025.
Posted on 5/18/25 at 8:48 pm to TideSaint
KD doesn't belong on that list.
Posted on 5/18/25 at 8:57 pm to Buckeye06
I started to reply to all of this, then I realized....you are a Buckeye fan. You are not even on the same level of the food chain as me. You don't even deserve the energy it would take to type a response to you. You are not even pond scum, you are the bacteria that eats pond scum. I would say Go kill yourself, but I'm sure you don't have the balls to do that, so I will just say, go away and never return....you are not worthy. You've probably been divorced at least once and your children hate you. Your existance is a bane on the face of humanity.
This post was edited on 5/18/25 at 9:03 pm
Posted on 5/18/25 at 8:59 pm to captdalton
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Kalen Deboer’s official record at Washington was 25-3. That is a 89.3% winning percentage. All time, Deboer’s record as a college head coach is 113-16. That is a 87.6% win percentage.
Are you including his time at Sioux Falls?
This post was edited on 5/18/25 at 9:03 pm
Posted on 5/18/25 at 9:01 pm to Finch
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Kalen Deboer’s official record at Washington was 25-3. That is a 89.3% winning percentage. All time, Deboer’s record as a college head coach is 113-16. That is a 87.6% win percentage.
It's actually .780 at the Division I level
Posted on 5/18/25 at 9:18 pm to remaster916
Deboer has a 78% winning percentage as a D-1 head coach over his last 5 seasons. There are a few other coaches that can claim that, but there aren’t ten.
Kirby - 87.9%
Day - 85.7%
Sarkisian - 68.3%
Freeman (3 seasons) - 78.5%
Lanning (3 seasons) - 85.3%
Dabo - 75.8%
Franklin - 70.3%
Willingham - 62.1%
Campbell - 59.4%
Kelly - 78.1%
Cignetti - 84.4%
Based purely on winning percentage, it is:
Kirby
Day
Lanning
Cignetti
Freeman
Deboer
Kelly
Dabo
Franklin
Sark
Willingham
Campbell
Kirby - 87.9%
Day - 85.7%
Sarkisian - 68.3%
Freeman (3 seasons) - 78.5%
Lanning (3 seasons) - 85.3%
Dabo - 75.8%
Franklin - 70.3%
Willingham - 62.1%
Campbell - 59.4%
Kelly - 78.1%
Cignetti - 84.4%
Based purely on winning percentage, it is:
Kirby
Day
Lanning
Cignetti
Freeman
Deboer
Kelly
Dabo
Franklin
Sark
Willingham
Campbell
Posted on 5/18/25 at 9:19 pm to John Casey
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Notre Dame ultimately lost both games,
Posted on 5/18/25 at 9:22 pm to SidewalkTiger
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It's actually .780 at the Division I level
I gave Kelly credit for d-2 wins, so I did the same for Deboer when comparing their full body of work.
You make any thread that you participate in miserable for everyone. I am certain you are like that in real life too.
Posted on 5/18/25 at 9:24 pm to captdalton
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You make any thread that you participate in miserable for everyone.
The poster asked about win percentages, I gave him Deboer's at the Division I level.
Why does that make you miserable?
Posted on 5/18/25 at 9:33 pm to SidewalkTiger
Have you asked yourself why everyone here who interacts with you who isn’t a LSU fan hates you? It isn’t even the obvious LSU bias, it is just how you are. How often do you look in the mirror and think “maybe it is me”?
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