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ESPN Conference Rankings...SEC #2?

Posted on 9/20/11 at 2:05 am
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
6898 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 2:05 am
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Not sure the logic behind putting a conference that soon won't exist above the best conference in college football by far. ESPN continues to amaze me
Posted by BobMayonnaise
Memphis
Member since Feb 2009
1375 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 2:10 am to
Good point, but I just view it as fuel for the fire. Outsiders are foaming at the mouth to cut the legs out from under the SEC.
Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
30461 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 2:14 am to
I think the most complete team is in the Big 12. However, from top to bottom, the SEC still has to be the best conference.
Posted by wish i was tebow
The Golf Board
Member since Feb 2009
46121 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 2:16 am to



when will they learn


Posted by BASCTiger
34247 posts
Member since Jul 2010
5146 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 2:27 am to
Yet aTm got aTm's twice last year by SEC teams yet they overrate them. No biggie, they will soon become the next Arky in the SEC "good for two years and bad for 6"
Posted by CatFan81
Decatur, GA
Member since May 2009
47188 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 2:28 am to
The SEC only has two elite teams this season. Bama and LSU. Everyone else is average to awful.
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
6898 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 2:30 am to
You could also make the argument that the big 12 only has one elite team this year.
Posted by CatFan81
Decatur, GA
Member since May 2009
47188 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 2:32 am to
True.

I never really put much stock into what ESPN says...
Posted by BASCTiger
34247 posts
Member since Jul 2010
5146 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 2:32 am to
Frick the BigII
Posted by smash williams
San Diego
Member since Apr 2009
19755 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 2:53 am to
It's probably because Ole Miss, Kentucky, Georgia, Auburn and South Carolina have all looked shitty in OOC play. Don't worry, LSU will put the SEC back on top with a solid W against West Virginia.
Posted by PeterPan
Neverland
Member since Jul 2010
310 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 3:27 am to
quote:

We created this system to grade conferences based equally on two key components, the quality of the upper tier schools AND the depth of the conference. The AP (or Coaches) poll is a good proxy for the strength of the top schools in each conference. On any given week there are roughly 35-45 schools given a positive voting number, that is, at least one 25th place vote. This means about two-thirds of FBS schools are treated equally and given zero AP points. So, only conferences with these elite schools will get any points at all and only the elite of the elite will receive the major points given out if you can make the top ten.

The second aspect of this system is designed to proxy the depth of the conference. Computer ratings are great for this purpose as they always will rate at least all FBS schools. Thus if you are a very top heavy conference with bad schools near the bottom of your standings, computer ratings will heavily penalize you.

A simple statistical process called "normalization" is then used to put the AP poll and the computer rating averages on the same scale with their 50/50 weights.

Hopefully this sheds a little more light on our methodology. Suggestions are always welcome and debate always encouraged.
Posted by TheBob
Metairie
Member since Jun 2005
16935 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 4:31 am to
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The SEC only has two elite teams this season. Bama and LSU. Everyone else is average to awful.


Here come the Hog fans......
Posted by LSUTigerfaninHtown
President of the OT as of 5/26/11
Member since Nov 2008
24252 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 4:38 am to
:inb4hogsessed:
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35793 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 7:15 am to
how does a conference that's falling apart beat us. i could understand if the ACC or Pac-12 but definitely not the big 12.
Posted by Jumbeauxlaya
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
18083 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 7:35 am to
quote:

The SEC only has two elite teams this season. Bama and LSU. Everyone else is average to awful.


Personally I'd put UF at above average.

ETA: forgot about the hogs, as usual. they're decent.
This post was edited on 9/20/11 at 7:36 am
Posted by tonydatigah
Youngsville, La
Member since Aug 2007
638 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 7:37 am to
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when will they learn


This +10000000000
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96027 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 7:38 am to
quote:

The SEC only has two elite teams this season. Bama and LSU. Everyone else is average to awful.


definitely dont agree with this. florida and arkansas look nothing like average teams at all to me.
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
24272 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 7:42 am to
From the comments section on that article:

quote:

Really not sure how SEC is even still called a "college conference". Between all the street thugs and academic rejects, most members (exception Vandy-perenial basement dweller) don't really resemble college athletics at all. Maybe we should just call it a "Social Club" until they actually establish some academic standards for players.



Jealousy sucks.
Posted by ehole
in a house
Member since Nov 2010
3373 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 8:27 am to
i point the finger at auburn... this is your fault
Posted by dandan
Member since Nov 2007
4347 posts
Posted on 9/20/11 at 8:44 am to
quote:

definitely dont agree with this. florida and arkansas look nothing like average teams at all to me.


I agree. Florida impressed me last weekend against the Vols. They are a legit contender to win the SEC title.

Arkansas is talented and tricky. Petrino is an offensive genius so there is nothing average about that team.

The top 4 in the SEC are strong. Those 4 should be in the top 10 in the country. Line up these 4 (LSU, Bama, Ark, Fla) against the top 4 in other conferences and see what happens.

Then you have South Car, UGA, Miss St, and Auburn and they are solid "middle" of the pack type teams that would run wild on the average teams of the other leagues.
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