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re: Elite Coaches do not go 5-6!

Posted on 12/1/17 at 9:54 pm to
Posted by Texas Weazel
Louisiana is a shithole
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 12/1/17 at 9:54 pm to
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After he won a couple of conference tiles and national title he was considered elite. None of these coaches had a horrible 5-6 or 6-6 season after they won a conference or national title.


No, but Urban Meyer had a 7-5 regular season. Pretty damn comparable when you consider FSU played two Power 5 non-conference opponents this year while Florida only had one that year.
Posted by topcat88
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 12/1/17 at 9:54 pm to
Yeah of course they were old men and already cemented their status. Im talking about Jimbo Fisher being an elite coach right now.
Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
Member since May 2012
22982 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 9:58 pm to
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Yeah of course they were old men and already cemented their status. Im talking about Jimbo Fisher being an elite coach right now.


What?

In 1966 Woody Hayes was 53 and went 4-5. He went on to win two more National Championships and nine Conference Championships.

Jimbo Fisher is 52.

Great coaches do have bad years.

You don't have to be a Jimbo or A&M fan to see that. I'm not either.
This post was edited on 12/1/17 at 9:59 pm
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 9:59 pm to
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Aggie baws are convincing me with $2M coordinators and Shadow staff bigger than MC Hammers Entourage


And we are going to take over Texas recruiting. That is the real thing everyone is missing.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 12/1/17 at 9:59 pm to
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Bear Bryant was 12 years in when he had a .500 year. Bo Schembechler was 15 years in when he had his. Wood Hayes also had a losing season 15 years in.
Ancient history. Fisher is not worth 10 years 75 million. Not even close. A&M fricked itself again.
Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
Member since May 2012
22982 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 10:00 pm to
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Ancient history. Fisher is not worth 10 years 75 million. Not even close. A&M fricked itself again.


Still Football. Still Elite Football coaches. Times have changed but the basics haven't.
Posted by topcat88
Member since Nov 2015
4079 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 10:00 pm to
Dude Im not going to nitpick and go back into the 60s to try to prove a point. I am talking about elite coaches right now who are considered elite.
Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
Member since May 2012
22982 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 10:02 pm to
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Dude Im not going to nitpick and go back into the 60s to try to prove a point. I am talking about elite coaches right now who are considered elite.


You're going to move goal posts around to rip on Jimbo and A&M...which I'm down with but you're wrong on this issue.

Elite coaches have bad years. Meyer, Saban, Dabo, literally every good coach has a bad year at some point. It's universal, doesn't matter what year it is.
Posted by Texas Weazel
Louisiana is a shithole
Member since Oct 2016
8532 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 10:02 pm to
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Ancient history. Fisher is not worth 10 years 75 million. Not even close. A&M fricked itself again.

Why did we "frick" ourselves?

Money ain't the issue. We ain't penny pinching like your broke arse school. If we don't like the results, we'll buy him out. What's so hard to understand?? Does LSU even money, bro?
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68183 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 10:03 pm to
C'mon, you're reaching. The basics have changed as far as tolerating mediocrity at 7.5 mil/year. That's what's heading AM's way.
Posted by topcat88
Member since Nov 2015
4079 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 10:03 pm to
Im not moving shite around. Im talking about coaches who are considered ELITE today not having a bad season after their respectable conference or national titles.
Elite coaches are always in the mix.
This post was edited on 12/1/17 at 10:04 pm
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 12/1/17 at 10:03 pm to
He knew he was leaving for Aggie before the year started
Posted by Texas Weazel
Louisiana is a shithole
Member since Oct 2016
8532 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 10:03 pm to
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Dude Im not going to nitpick and go back into the 60s to try to prove a point. I am talking about elite coaches right now who are considered elite.

Urban Meyer.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38770 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 10:03 pm to
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And we are going to take over Texas recruiting. That is the real thing everyone is missing.


If you ruin Herman we are still baws
Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
Member since May 2012
22982 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 10:05 pm to
You in this thread:

> Elite coaches do not go 5-6
> Ok they do, but only in the beginning of their tenure
> Ok they do, but not after 8 years
> Ok they do, but only if they're old
> Ok they do, but only before the year 2000

You're moving goal posts trying to bracket it down to where your point makes sense.

This post was edited on 12/1/17 at 10:06 pm
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 10:05 pm to
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I do not care whether you're starting QB went down or not. You have more than enough talent on that roster to get at least 7 wins


that roster is loaded with talent. and that team very well may go 5-7. the people I know at FSU are basically telling Fisher not to let the door hit his arse on the way out.
Posted by topcat88
Member since Nov 2015
4079 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 10:08 pm to
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104

I do not care whether you're starting QB went down or not. You have more than enough talent on that roster to get at least 7 wins. Look at all the elite coaches today. Saban, Meyer, Harbaugh, Peterson, Swinney have always won more than seven games in the middle of their tenure. 75 Million well spent A&M.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44017 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 10:09 pm to
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they grossly overpaid.

I think you’ve mentioned that once or twice today.



What, exactly, would you propose that any Ags on this message board do in order to make things more comfortable for those who are disturbed by today’s news?
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38770 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 10:09 pm to
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He knew he was leaving for Aggie before the year started



Shady
Posted by skirpnasty
Atlantis
Member since Aug 2012
10781 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 10:12 pm to
Agreed. A&M just paid Gene Chizik 75 million dollars.
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