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re: Early Look at Next Season
Posted on 6/12/18 at 11:36 am to Farmer1906
Posted on 6/12/18 at 11:36 am to Farmer1906
I'm not sure what JUCO signees Texas A&M has - they are always a wildcard for me.
As a general rule, at this point I'd assume any recruit drafted in the top 24ish rounds will sign pro...anyone after will make it to campus.
Put A&M will take a hit losing Kolek, Kilkenney, Sherrod and Hoffman from the staff. Plus Helman from the lineup.
I bet TAMU will have some dudes in the lineup but right now - tons of question marks regarding pitching.
As a general rule, at this point I'd assume any recruit drafted in the top 24ish rounds will sign pro...anyone after will make it to campus.
Put A&M will take a hit losing Kolek, Kilkenney, Sherrod and Hoffman from the staff. Plus Helman from the lineup.
I bet TAMU will have some dudes in the lineup but right now - tons of question marks regarding pitching.
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Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:07 pm to mizslu314
It's too early for even an early look with all the recruits and current players in limbo with MLB plus roster processing
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:11 pm to Pygthagorean Theorem
Can’t forget Bryce Bonnin, he could be big for us next year
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:12 pm to Tom Haverford
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I bet TAMU will have some dudes in the lineup but right now - tons of question marks regarding pitching.
i remember your post from last year saying A&M lost too much pitching and yet again they had the #1 staff in the league. there are plenty of questions, but pitching is the one constant with childress
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:16 pm to Tom Haverford
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9 - Mississippi State (15-15) probably fairly big step back
Asinine. We have a team full of freshmen with an interim head coach, and so many other issues this year. We will not take a step back, but we will improve.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:18 pm to Random MsState Fan
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Asinine. We have a team full of freshmen with an interim head coach, and so many other issues this year. We will not take a step back, but we will improve.
People always assume freshmen improve significantly.
Look I could easily be wrong but State will be relying on a lot of young or newcomers making up their pitching staff next year. That typically doesn't work well.
Sure it's possibly Cole Gordon, Kale Breaux, Keegan James, Trysten Barlow all become freaks.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:21 pm to Tom Haverford
I expect James to improve. He's been good in the postseason. Remember he is just recovering from Tommy John. Pitching is our question, but we have a solid Friday night ace in Small. Our bats will be solid though.
This post was edited on 6/12/18 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:22 pm to Tom Haverford
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Look I could easily be wrong but State will be relying on a lot of young or newcomers making up their pitching staff next year. That typically doesn't work well.
Pretty fair assessment
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:23 pm to Hogsfan005
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Can’t forget Bryce Bonnin, he could be big for us next year
I haven't. I fully expect him or Ramage to be our No. 2 next season. Lots of question marks next season.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:31 pm to Tom Haverford
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9 - Mississippi State (15-15) probably fairly big step back
State's current lineup, with returning status:
1 - CF - Mangum (.353) - Returning Senior
2 - LF - Jordan (.333) - Returning Sophomore
3 - 1B - Allen (.300) - Returning Sophomore
4 - 2B - Stovall (.319) - Potentially returning Senior
5 - RF - MacNamee (.318) - Returning Junior
6 - 3B - Foscue (.256) - Returning Sophomore
7 - SS - Alexander (.213) - Returning Senior but will likely get processed on account of influx of new talent
8 - C - Skelton (.248) - Returning Junior
9 - DH - Westburg (.250) - Returning Sophomore
All but one in our starting lineup, which has looked very dangerous this postseason, will definitely be back next year. Very potentially all will be back. We have 4 guys coming in that will be immediate impact guys as well and easily fight to take a starting spot from the back end guys. With freshman->soph year over year improvement, we could easily have 8 guys batting .300+ in that lineup. You don't need phenomenal pitchers to win with that lineup.
But let's look at pitching:
Ethan Small is our ace. He was selected in the 26th as a sophomore. He'll come back for his junior year and boost that stock way up as one of the best lefties in the league.
We also lose Pilkington and Billingsley from the weekend rotation, two 4+ ERA guys with a combined 7 wins. Nothing special, nothing unreplaceable. One spot will likely be filled by stud current bullpen man Riley Self. The other will likely come from the return of one of several big arms we lost to injury.
We also get back Spencer Price, our shutdown closer who was out this year.
We're going to be much improved next year. Big step back?? Ha.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:39 pm to Fe_Mike
Batting averages. Cool. The fact Pilkington and Billingsley combined for 7 wins doesn't help your argument.
20 college players were selected in the 26th round last year. 17 signed pro. I'd pump on the breaks on assuming Ethan Small returns. He's not a "true" draft-eligible sophomore he's he's a R-So.
Bottom line I don't care how many returning (most light hitters) State has set to come back; the SEC eats young pitching alive.
But yeah you right everyone will improve and be All-Americans I'm sure. All 11 of those freshmen in the lineup will be world-beaters next year.
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20 college players were selected in the 26th round last year. 17 signed pro. I'd pump on the breaks on assuming Ethan Small returns. He's not a "true" draft-eligible sophomore he's he's a R-So.
Bottom line I don't care how many returning (most light hitters) State has set to come back; the SEC eats young pitching alive.
But yeah you right everyone will improve and be All-Americans I'm sure. All 11 of those freshmen in the lineup will be world-beaters next year.
insert stupid emoticon
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:41 pm to Cornelius
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But yes, Vandy should be very good next year.
And even better the year after that.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:45 pm to Tom Haverford
Well unless something has changed, Small will be back. Word is he was coming back if he wasn't drafted within the first 5 rounds. He wasn't.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:56 pm to Tom Haverford
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20 college players were selected in the 26th round last year. 17 signed pro.
How many of those that signed were sophomores? Him being a r-so has no impact. He's got two years of eligibility left and stands to improve his draft position by 15 rounds by returning, and still be eligible for a big contract. You show me how many sophs left in round 26, then I'll be worried.
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the SEC eats young pitching alive.
Well it's a good thing no less than two of our weekend guys, and likely all 3, will have 1+ year experience in the SEC already. Plus a year of experience for our closer. Plus 1-2 yrs of experience for no less than 4 bullpen guys.
Dude are returning 80% of a team that is heading to Omaha this weekend.
The two weekend starters we are losing were:
Pilkington (1-5 5.65 ERA in SEC)
Billingsley (2-3 6.6 ERA in SEC)
I'm not saying our new pitchers are gonna come in and dominate, but that production isn't exactly difficult to come in and match. I promise we'll find someone that can throw at that level at the very minimum, which means no regression there.
I don't expect you to know everything there is to know about every team, but at least have some modesty when I educate you.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:59 pm to Fe_Mike
So Pilkington is garbage now?
Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:02 pm to Tom Haverford
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13 - Tennessee (12-18) should be a lot better
I do believe that Tennessee will be better next year...they were 1 game away from making he SEC tourney this year.
I wish UT would tap into the talent from nearby Walters State for some JUCO help...but so far the only transfers I have seen declare from there is going to Bama.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:04 pm to madmaxvol
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I do believe that Tennessee will be better next year...they were 1 game away from making he SEC tourney this year.
I wish UT would tap into the talent from nearby Walters State for some JUCO help...but so far the only transfers I have seen declare from there is going to Bama.
Give Vitello time. That dude is one hell of a recruiter.
This post was edited on 6/12/18 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:05 pm to civiltiger07
Exactly. I mean if he's implying Pilkington isn't that good or productive because of his ERA in SEC games, then I shudder to think what replacement guy like a Peyton Plumlee or insert JUCO transfer would do.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:07 pm to civiltiger07
He has been bad this year. But I believe it's because he's having arm issues.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:09 pm to Tom Haverford
To be clear I think State may go about 12-18/13-17 or so. So define that drop-off.
No one, including myself, expected Kentucky to go 13-17 this past year FYI. Long way between now and May of 2019 but a couple of you State fans are greatly overrating what you have returning & possibly coming and/or underrating what you're losing.
I mean suddenly we got one guy saying Konnor Pilkington wasn't that good.
No one, including myself, expected Kentucky to go 13-17 this past year FYI. Long way between now and May of 2019 but a couple of you State fans are greatly overrating what you have returning & possibly coming and/or underrating what you're losing.
I mean suddenly we got one guy saying Konnor Pilkington wasn't that good.
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