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re: Duke, UNC, OU, Okie State, Va Tech, Virginia
Posted on 4/2/13 at 8:56 am to Topwater Trout
Posted on 4/2/13 at 8:56 am to Topwater Trout
I'd like to go back to 12. That was a fantastic setup.
If we have to add two more, UNC is easily the best choice. After them, take one of UVA or Va. Tech. UVA is better academically and has a rivalry with UNC. Va. Tech has better football and is a better cultural fit. I can say this w/o a doubt b/c I live in Charlottesville and I know tons of people from UVA and Va. Tech.
If we have to add two more, UNC is easily the best choice. After them, take one of UVA or Va. Tech. UVA is better academically and has a rivalry with UNC. Va. Tech has better football and is a better cultural fit. I can say this w/o a doubt b/c I live in Charlottesville and I know tons of people from UVA and Va. Tech.
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Posted on 4/2/13 at 9:07 am to roadGator
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What percentage of the State's population lives in little Dixie?
Missouri has Little Dixie.
Florida has Little Havana.
One of these states is Southern. One of them is Latin American. #soccer city
Posted on 4/2/13 at 9:23 am to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
y'all are both somewhat Yankees ... but meh I'm okay with that and to some extent y'all(mizzou) are starting to grow on me FWIW 
ETA: The farther south you go in Florida the further north it actually is.
ETA: The farther south you go in Florida the further north it actually is.
This post was edited on 4/2/13 at 9:25 am
Posted on 4/2/13 at 9:31 am to dawgfan24348
VaTech
unc
frick the oklahoma schools
unc
frick the oklahoma schools
Posted on 4/2/13 at 9:33 am to dawgfan24348
Can we just go back to 10? It solves any scheduling conflicts and does away with the terrible SECCG.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 9:34 am to Wally Sparks
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Va Tech and UNC. Lock up the VA and NC television markets.
Why do YOU care about television markets?
Why doesn't anyone seem to care about athletic competition in an athletic association anymore?
Academics, other states' television markets, NONE of this shite adds one iota of entertainment value for me while watching a football game or listening to a baseball game on the radio.
It's so fricking bizzare to see a bunch of sports fans get excited about academics and television markets. It's like you're being led by the nose by the SEC PR department or something.
Whatever happened to rivalries, competition and matchups?
You want TV markets and academics? Why not go after Rutgers and UCLA?
It's just fricking weird.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 9:36 am to pvilleguru
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the terrible SECCG
Posted on 4/2/13 at 9:39 am to TbirdSpur2010
I feel that if you can't put the two best teams in the game, then it's a bad idea.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 9:40 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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Why do YOU care about television markets? Why doesn't anyone seem to care about athletic competition in an athletic association anymore? Academics, other states' television markets, NONE of this shite adds one iota of entertainment value for me while watching a football game or listening to a baseball game on the radio.
the money from academics and new markets will be essential in keeping the SEC as the #1 football conference.
that will directly impact your entertainment experience on all fronts.
This post was edited on 4/2/13 at 9:41 am
Posted on 4/2/13 at 9:40 am to dawgfan24348
VT and UNC, Missouri moves to the West
Posted on 4/2/13 at 9:41 am to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
#snowplowcity
Posted on 4/2/13 at 9:41 am to pvilleguru
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I feel that if you can't put the two best teams in the game, then it's a bad idea.
Not when you have a large conference (which is a good thing from a financial and exposure standpoint).
Why don't you ask the big12 if they'd like to have a title game? Ignore the lies coming from austin, btw
I think a CCG is a capital idea that has benefited the SEC many times over the years, personally.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 9:44 am to TbirdSpur2010
I'm sure it has raised a lot of money for the conference, but I don't really care about that. I'd rather have ten teams, play everyone, and the team with best record at the end is your champion. I hate giving the 3rd or 4th best team a chance to win the championship.
Same reason I hate the SEC tournament in basketball. Give the automatic bid to the team that really deserves it, the regular season champ.
Same reason I hate the SEC tournament in basketball. Give the automatic bid to the team that really deserves it, the regular season champ.
This post was edited on 4/2/13 at 9:47 am
Posted on 4/2/13 at 9:50 am to Patton
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I think UNC and UVA fit best culturally
This post was edited on 4/2/13 at 9:51 am
Posted on 4/2/13 at 10:04 am to pvilleguru
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I'm sure it has raised a lot of money for the conference, but I don't really care about that. I'd rather have ten teams, play everyone, and the team with best record at the end is your champion. I hate giving the 3rd or 4th best team a chance to win the championship. Same reason I hate the SEC tournament in basketball. Give the automatic bid to the team that really deserves it, the regular season champ.
But you and everyone here does care about the money whether they know it or not.
Your school needs that money to make sure they have the best facilities and coaches you can get.
Without those you won't be able to maintain the high level recruiting needed to compete for a title.
Recruits ultimately go where they will get the most exposure and best training for the next level. You go back to 10-12 schools and thumb your nose at a large network with a championship game and you are assuring a decline in your schools fortunes.
The traditionalist in me actually wishes the SWC never broke up. But the rationalist knows that would lead to irrelevance due to the limited funds such a condensed footprint could produce.
This post was edited on 4/2/13 at 10:07 am
Posted on 4/2/13 at 10:42 am to pvilleguru
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I'm sure it has raised a lot of money for the conference, but I don't really care about that.
Myopic view, IMO. But I was a business major in college, so that no doubt plays heavily into my opinion. I can agree to disagree, though
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I'd rather have ten teams, play everyone, and the team with best record at the end is your champion.
Again, I'll cite the big12 as my example. In a ten-team scenario, the opportunity for 3 way ties and other scheduling faux pas are as possible as with a larger conference, albeit without a CCG to help sort out the mess. Not to mention that if most of the teams in your league are worth their salt, all they'll do is beat up on each other and produce average records across the board. Throw in the fact that other major competing conferences have CCGs, and you're setting yourself up for failure in postseason qualification.
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I hate giving the 3rd or 4th best team a chance to win the championship.
This has really only happened once (Bama in 2011), and Bama proved themselves in that situation. Interestingly enough, that scenario would almost certainly have been avoided had the big12 had a CCG. Even with okie state losing late, having the opportunity to mop the floor in a CCG would have given them that last little edge they'd needed to appear in the title game.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 10:45 am to Dr RC
If this is just a hypothetical question then okay, but if anyone truly believes Duke or UNC would ever leave each other much less the ACC, you are out of your mind. There is far too much history between these two schools and their conference. Saying these schools would leave the ACC is like saying Alabama and LSU would leave the SEC. I love the SEC but being that big of a homer to think they would rather be in the SEC is absolutely ridiculous. You would all argue about money, but do you really think two extremely expensive schools with unbelievably wealthy alumni are that worried about money? There are plenty of more arguments to be made over why they would stay in the ACC, but that is all that is needed. The SEC is fine where its at and if anything doesn't need to be adding but instead eliminating.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 10:47 am to dawgfan24348
UNC and Duke would add to our shitty b ball conference.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 10:48 am to WAOMrebears
UNC Duke. Not best for football, but adding UNC Duke rivalry, along with having Florida, and UK in the conference. I don't even like basketball, but this would be awesome for the conference overall. Football doesn't need help, baseball doesn't need help. Add UNC and DUKE and the SEC owns every major sport.
Posted on 4/2/13 at 10:49 am to WAOMrebears
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If this is just a hypothetical question then okay, but if anyone truly believes Duke or UNC would ever leave each other much less the ACC, you are out of your mind. There is far too much history between these two schools and their conference.
Not to be a contrarian (and welcome to the board, btw
), but folks said almost the EXACT same thing regarding Texas A&M and Texas separating into different conference. If the money is right, anything can happen with realignment.
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