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re: Does UGA have a culture issue?
Posted on 7/12/24 at 12:44 pm to Funky Tide 8
Posted on 7/12/24 at 12:44 pm to Funky Tide 8
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both. risk to the community and risk of flight.
No doubt they all play a part, but seriousness of the crime plays a huge part, too. All are considered.
ETA
I mean, if they had been accused of Rape, Murder, sexual assault, armed robbery they would not have gotten a $26 Bond. A $26 bond has as much to say about how serious their offenses were as anything else.
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Posted on 7/12/24 at 12:45 pm to BigDickRick16
Jesus Christ UGA. Just take all of their licenses away
Posted on 7/12/24 at 12:51 pm to BigDickRick16
UGA average freshman OL is 6’6 340. Their 2-deep is even loaded. Kirby doesn’t care if he loses a few to off the field issues.
Posted on 7/12/24 at 12:54 pm to AtlantaLSUfan
quote:It's natural selection.
UGA average freshman OL is 6’6 340. Their 2-deep is even loaded. Kirby doesn’t care if he loses a few to off the field issues.
They can be Auburn, Ole Miss, or UCF's problem after they get kicked off the team.
Posted on 7/12/24 at 1:23 pm to JohnnyRebel
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In Gainesville they swept everything under the rug.
The UAA may have swept internal issues under the rug, but GPD was notoriously anti-athlete. In 2009 we had our best defensive player, Carlos Dunlap suspended for the SEC Championship game for falling asleep at a traffic light.
Posted on 7/12/24 at 1:38 pm to Funky Tide 8
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I'd say that racing, and driving recklessly/driving 20+ mph over the speed limit in traffic is objectively dangerous to the general public. I'd argue that in many instances having 3 drinks, driving the speed limit, and minding traffic laws is less egregious and dangerous than driving 100 mph through traffic.
If that's what "reckless driving" meant, you might be right.
But that's not what reckless driving means. It's a catch-all offense.
You can get it for changing a lane without checking your blind spot so you cut someone off. It can be "driving too fast for conditions", even if you're under the speed limit. You can be charged without evidence of any improper driving offense for getting in an accident... because you wouldn't have crashed unless you drove recklessly. It can be gunning your engine and accelerating quickly out of a stop next to another car... again without exceeding the speed limit.
In GA, here's the statute:
"Motor Vehicles and Traffic § 40-6-390. (a) Any person who drives any vehicle in reckless disregard for the safety of persons or property commits the offense of reckless driving:
It's an intentionally vague statute without objective measures specifically so it can be applied widely to anyone who "did something wrong in a car" but didn't actually violate any driving rule. Not only that but it can be tacked on to virtually any other traffic offense.
Came to a rolling stop at a stop sign? That's also reckless driving because the safety of a person who may have wanted to cross the road would be disregarded. Speeding? Throw reckless driving on there. Someone walking on the road could have had their safety disregarded. And DUI ALWAYS comes with a reckless driving charge added on.
Why?
Money. The police departments can get another fine if they add reckless driving to a charge.
Posted on 7/12/24 at 1:41 pm to DawginSC
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If that's what "reckless driving" meant, you might be right. But that's not what reckless driving means. It's a catch-all offense.
But in this case, the details say it’s racing and driving 20+ miles an hour over the speed limit in traffic.
Posted on 7/12/24 at 1:42 pm to BigDickRick16
Seems like Tennessee has Bama, Georgia and Florida issues.
Posted on 7/12/24 at 2:13 pm to theballguy
It’s pathetic it took deaths and they still haven’t learned a lesson
Plus another recruit in the vehicle
Must have been at the strip club
How f’ing stupid do you have to be
Plus another recruit in the vehicle
Must have been at the strip club
How f’ing stupid do you have to be
Posted on 7/12/24 at 2:24 pm to BigDickRick16
Yeah it's unacceptable at this point. No way to defend this as it has become a rampant issue inside the program.
I would imagine Kirby will eventually start suspending players a la Mark Richt at some point.
I would imagine Kirby will eventually start suspending players a la Mark Richt at some point.
Posted on 7/12/24 at 2:46 pm to LarryCulpepper
24 holy shite I had no idea it was that many! Thats like 25% of the team!
Stewart Mandel
@slmandel
Per the AJC, there have been *24* incidents in which "an individual associated with Georgia football has been apprehended by police for speeding, reckless driving or (DUI)" since the high-speed, alcohol-related crash that killed 2 people in January '23.
Stewart Mandel
@slmandel
Per the AJC, there have been *24* incidents in which "an individual associated with Georgia football has been apprehended by police for speeding, reckless driving or (DUI)" since the high-speed, alcohol-related crash that killed 2 people in January '23.
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If tweet fails to load, click here. Posted on 7/12/24 at 2:53 pm to Dawgfanman
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But in this case, the details say it’s racing and driving 20+ miles an hour over the speed limit in traffic.
In which case? People are talking about multiple reckless driving incidents as if they're all the same thing and they're not.
Bo Hughley got into a single car accident and got a reckless driving charge (as all single care accidents do). He didn't have a speeding or racing charge.
Etttiene was arrested for DUI but those charges were dropped because apparently he didn't register a high enough blood alcohol level. He still got hit with reckless driving, failure to maintain lane, a window tint violation and underage possession of alcohol. That looks a lot like an "adding on reckless driving" type scenario.
Mondon was indeed racing while speeding and got reckless driving added on as well.
The reality is what I said. Reckless driving can be added on to virtually any traffic infraction. And it often is. The only time it's ever a single charge is when the person got in a wreck and they can't find another infraction to charge them with. They then say "reckless driving... because you wouldn't have crashed otherwise".
Now if you want to say "racing is a problem at UGA", we can discuss that. But the list of offenses becomes much smaller. The players charged with racing their cars on public streets are:
1 - Jalen Carter
2 - Smael Mondon and Demelo Jones.
3 - Jonel Aguero and Justyn Rhett (technically they were just cited for speeding, but to be transparent they probably could have been charged with racing too)
People talk about the number of "traffic related incidents" since Devon Willock died. But those arrests weren't all for racing. Only 3 of them were technically (1 and 2 above). The rest were a large variety of different things including mostly speeding tickets, reckless driving charges from single car accidents, rear ending another car while driving and two DUI's (one of which was dropped due to lack of evidence). The other DUI was for drug use and he was "encouraged" to transfer to Purdue.
The reality is UGA's had a grand total of 3 players cited for "street racing" since the end of the 2022 season, and one of them was cited after he played his last game for UGA.
Posted on 7/12/24 at 3:01 pm to OU Guy
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Per the AJC, there have been *24* incidents in which "an individual associated with Georgia football has been apprehended by police for speeding, reckless driving or (DUI)" since the high-speed, alcohol-related crash that killed 2 people in January '23.
Yes.
Of those 24, all but 6 or 7 of them were speeding tickets.
UGA had 2 DUI's (both with reckless driving and other charges thrown in). One player had the DUI charges dropped . The other player transferred.
They had 1 reckless driving in a single car crash. Everyone involved in a single car crash gets charged with reckless driving.
They had 2 citations for racing, one of which had reckless driving tacked on.
Those are the only 5 I could find. Every other offense is apparently speeding tickets. I put 6-7 assuming there were a couple I missed but let's be real... that number is mostly speeding tickets.
This post was edited on 7/12/24 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 7/12/24 at 3:04 pm to BigDickRick16
Yes indeed UGA has a culture problem very similar to UAT in that a winning football program is all that matters. I feel sure UGA has the wrong role model. To be a football factory should not the goal any university; neither UAT or UGA.
This post was edited on 7/13/24 at 7:35 am
Posted on 7/12/24 at 3:32 pm to joshnorris14
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Carlos Dunlap suspended for the SEC Championship game for falling asleep at a traffic light.
That's why it drew the attention of the police...but didn't they arrest him for DUI?
Florida defensive end Carlos Dunlap was arrested at around 3:30 a.m. for driving under the influence after falling asleep at the wheel.
Police found Dunlap, 20 -- a key part of Florida's national title push this week against Alabama -- slumped over in his Chrysler at a complete stop through multiple green-light traffic cycles at the 200 block of Southwest 34th Street, according to the police report.
Officers reached into the car to turn off the ignition while the clutch was still in gear and finally awoke a "very groggy" Dunlap, the report states.
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Posted on 7/12/24 at 3:36 pm to Woodrow Wilson
Such disappointment down on the barnyard. It's just not fair!!!! 
Posted on 7/12/24 at 4:44 pm to BigDickRick16
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Heupel didn’t run off anyone. Who’s this “best” recruit that got run off? If you are referring to Bradley, he left because he wasn’t going to be eligible to play this year. So only place he is eligible to play this year is the JUCO level.
Star recruit going ineligible = bad culture.
Posted on 7/12/24 at 9:51 pm to BigDickRick16
This has not been a very good off-season for the puppies. Headlined by the epic fail of a sham witch hunt investigation, disguised as the NCAA, against us just to take Nico out.
Posted on 7/12/24 at 9:54 pm to BigDickRick16
They’ve won 2 natties in the past 3 years
If that’s a “cultural issue” sign me up!
If that’s a “cultural issue” sign me up!
Posted on 7/13/24 at 7:35 am to DawginSC
That’s a lot of words to say, “Everyone who crashes gets a charge”, which is not a true statement at all. Nice try tough.
This post was edited on 7/13/24 at 7:36 am
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