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re: Does UGA have a culture issue?
Posted on 7/11/24 at 8:51 pm to Miznoz
Posted on 7/11/24 at 8:51 pm to Miznoz
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Heupul just ran off one of his best recruits because he can't create a culture at all
Heupel didn’t run off anyone. Who’s this “best” recruit that got run off? If you are referring to Bradley, he left because he wasn’t going to be eligible to play this year. So only place he is eligible to play this year is the JUCO level.
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Posted on 7/11/24 at 8:53 pm to Dawgfanman
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4 Vols have been arrested on similar charges (DUI/Speeding/Wreckless driving etc) in the last year.
But the Vols haven’t killed anyone either. UGA leads the way with players arrested every year under Heupel. UGA has had like 20+ in the last 2 seasons.
Posted on 7/11/24 at 8:57 pm to BigDickRick16
Seems like Vols cant beat UGA on the field or off the field. Maybe one day.
Posted on 7/12/24 at 12:00 am to BigDickRick16
"Bad culture" used to be things like violent crimes or drugs for a football team.
Now it's speeding.
The crimes were so severe that they had to post a twenty-six dollar bond.
Not 26 dollars each... 26 dollars in total.
I frankly view these arrests the same way I viewed the arrests for :"driving with a suspended license" back when they suspended licenses in GA for unpaid parking tickets.
UGA doesn't have that arrest anymore now that parking tickets can't cause a suspension. Imagine that.
Driving too fast, not paying parking tickets, drinking offenses not involving DUI... I frankly don't really care about those things. They're nothing offenses.
If they were a big deal, the bond would be more than "two for 26 dollars".
Now it's speeding.
The crimes were so severe that they had to post a twenty-six dollar bond.
Not 26 dollars each... 26 dollars in total.
I frankly view these arrests the same way I viewed the arrests for :"driving with a suspended license" back when they suspended licenses in GA for unpaid parking tickets.
UGA doesn't have that arrest anymore now that parking tickets can't cause a suspension. Imagine that.
Driving too fast, not paying parking tickets, drinking offenses not involving DUI... I frankly don't really care about those things. They're nothing offenses.
If they were a big deal, the bond would be more than "two for 26 dollars".
Posted on 7/12/24 at 12:04 am to BigDickRick16
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But the Vols haven’t killed anyone either.
Neither has a UGA football player under Kirby.
An athletic department employee was driving while drunk and got into a single car wreck that cost her own life and that of a UGA player. But no UGA player killed anyone.
Not sure if you don't realize this or if you're an idiot and think that a UGA player was responsible for that incident.
Posted on 7/12/24 at 7:21 am to DawgCountry
The word "Respect" coming from a Jawja fan's mouth?
What a joke.
What a joke.
Posted on 7/12/24 at 8:06 am to DawginSC
Neither has a UGA football player under Kirby.
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According to the reports I read, she (GA football staff member) was racing a GA All American when the accident happened that killed her and the player. Splitting hairs to say a GA player hasn't caused one.
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According to the reports I read, she (GA football staff member) was racing a GA All American when the accident happened that killed her and the player. Splitting hairs to say a GA player hasn't caused one.
Posted on 7/12/24 at 8:29 am to JohnnyRebel
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but small town Georgia cops are the worst,
Love this line that keeps coming up. Hughley caused a crash, and Mondon and Jones were racing and going 35 over the limit.
That’s not small town cop shite, that gets you busted everywhere.
Posted on 7/12/24 at 8:48 am to BigScoreboard
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According to the reports I read, she (GA football staff member) was racing a GA All American when the accident happened that killed her and the player. Splitting hairs to say a GA player hasn't caused one.
According to the police report on the incident, it was a single car accident caused by a drunken driver.
Jalen Carter had no official involvement in the accident.
There are several parties trying to sue UGA and Carter for the accident. All of them are going nowhere because Carter wasn't involved in the accident, and the person who was responsible was violating UGA policies in multiple ways when she crashed the car and killed herself and a UGA player.
The key point people miss when trying to paint Jalen Carter as "having killed someone" is the fact he was not involved in the accident.
Yes, he raced her. But essentially he had "won" if you want to call it that and was well up the road when the driver crashed the car. It wasn't like she was getting passed or trying to pass him when she lost control. His car was not near hers at that point. There were multiple cars between them and even those other cars weren't near hers when she crashed. It was a single care accident.
Posted on 7/12/24 at 9:38 am to VFL1800FPD
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Love this line that keeps coming up. Hughley caused a crash, and Mondon and Jones were racing and going 35 over the limit.
That’s not small town cop shite, that gets you busted everywhere.
Hughley didn't "cause a crash"... he crashed. I mean I guess you could say he "caused" it, but it was a single car crash. That's WHY he got a reckless driving charge. It's pretty common to get that when you get involved in a crash without anyone else involved in it. The thought process being: "If you hadn't been driving recklessly, you wouldn't have crashed into that tree/telephone pole/wall/etc."
Not sure who "Jones" is in your post, but Mondon was charged with racing and reckless driving.
Reckless driving is tacked on to most car related driving offenses other thank parking tickets and sometimes speeding and is there 100% of the time if there's an accident. Because if there's a crash, someone behaved recklessly. It absolutely is "small town cop shite". Most traffic crimes are. Traffic crimes are how small town police departments fund themselves.
Posted on 7/12/24 at 9:57 am to DawginSC
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"Bad culture" used to be things like violent crimes or drugs for a football team.
Now it's speeding.
The crimes were so severe that they had to post a twenty-six dollar bond.
Not 26 dollars each... 26 dollars in total.
I frankly view these arrests the same way I viewed the arrests for :"driving with a suspended license" back when they suspended licenses in GA for unpaid parking tickets.
UGA doesn't have that arrest anymore now that parking tickets can't cause a suspension. Imagine that.
Driving too fast, not paying parking tickets, drinking offenses not involving DUI... I frankly don't really care about those things. They're nothing offenses.
If they were a big deal, the bond would be more than "two for 26 dollars".
I'd say that speeding to the point of reckless driving is more dangerous/deadly to yourself as well as the general public than most illegal activities, despite the low bond amount.
This isn't just a Georgia culture thing obviously, even though they seem to get caught more than most.
Posted on 7/12/24 at 10:05 am to Funky Tide 8
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I'd say that speeding to the point of reckless driving is more dangerous/deadly to yourself as well as the general public than most illegal activities, despite the low bond amount.
Is speeding a bad thing? Sure.
Is it as bad a domestic violence, robbery, sexual crimes or theft? I personally don't think so.
But I'm part of the culture we live in, and that culture says that the bond for reckless driving is miniscule. Probably because EVERY time a car gets a a wreck, SOMEONE gets charged with reckless driving. Insurance wants someone to be responsible for any accident so they can figure out who has to pay for it.
Traffic offenses are viewed as petty for a reason. Most of them are rather petty. Not DUI of course, that one IS a big deal. But racing? Reckless driving? Driving too fast for conditions? Speeding?
Most of those are seen (correctly) as the police departments wanting to make money through tickets or fines rather as truly dangerous behavior most of the time.
Yes, sometimes it is actually dangerous, but not the majority of the time.
This post was edited on 7/12/24 at 10:07 am
Posted on 7/12/24 at 10:10 am to DawginSC
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Not sure who "Jones" is in your post, but Mondon was charged with racing and reckless driving. Reckless driving is tacked on to most car related driving offenses other thank parking tickets and sometimes speeding and is there 100% of the time if there's an accident. Because if there's a crash, someone behaved recklessly. It absolutely is "small town cop shite". Most traffic crimes are. Traffic crimes are how small town police departments fund themselves.
It’s Demello Jones, who was also charged but not arrested because he pulled over and slowed down quicker than Mondon. They were racing, Jones in a Porsche, Mondon in a Charger. Cop saw them, lit the lights. Jones slowed and pulled over, Mondon overtook him and kept speeding for a bit.
Posted on 7/12/24 at 10:20 am to BigDickRick16
Kirby needs to hit the boosters up and bring the race track back to Bogart. If you want to go fast then do it safely around people who know what the hell they're doing. Plenty of seasoned NASCAR guys between Atlanta and NC who could help out.
Posted on 7/12/24 at 10:37 am to DawginSC
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Is it as bad a domestic violence, robbery, sexual crimes or theft? I personally don't think so.
hence why I said "most illegal activities."
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But I'm part of the culture we live in, and that culture says that the bond for reckless driving is miniscule. Probably because EVERY time a car gets a a wreck, SOMEONE gets charged with reckless driving. Insurance wants someone to be responsible for any accident so they can figure out who has to pay for it.
Traffic offenses are viewed as petty for a reason. Most of them are rather petty. Not DUI of course, that one IS a big deal. But racing? Reckless driving? Driving too fast for conditions? Speeding?
I'd say that racing, and driving recklessly/driving 20+ mph over the speed limit in traffic is objectively dangerous to the general public. I'd argue that in many instances having 3 drinks, driving the speed limit, and minding traffic laws is less egregious and dangerous than driving 100 mph through traffic.
Posted on 7/12/24 at 11:03 am to DawginSC
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The crimes were so severe that they had to post a twenty-six dollar bond.
Not 26 dollars each... 26 dollars in total.
You know what the point of bonds are? Bonds are set to ensure the person shows up at court and are at the discretion of the judge and DA with a major factor being the likelihood someone will skip a court date. What are the odds a Georgia football player skips a court date? Any guesses? A sliver over 0% chance. The court and police know exactly where these players are and they are not going on the run because of something like this. Billy Bob from Idaho doing the exact same thing is not getting a token bond because he is more likely to skip out. These players are likely to lose way more money in future earnings if they skip court compared to any bond lost and the court/DA knows this
Posted on 7/12/24 at 11:54 am to JLFVFFL
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The word "Respect" coming from a Jawja fan's mouth?
What a joke.
Joke? That would be Tennessee players committing rape and sexual assaults and Tennessee fans clutching pearls over speeding.
Posted on 7/12/24 at 12:00 pm to PeleofAnalytics
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You know what the point of bonds are? Bonds are set to ensure the person shows up at court and are at the discretion of the judge and DA with a major factor being the likelihood someone will skip a court date.
While true they are typically based off of the seriousness of the crime. Murder, for instance would have a much higher bond. Armed Robbery would be higher. Domestic assault would be higher and so forth.
Is this not correct?
Posted on 7/12/24 at 12:20 pm to DawgsLife
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While true they are typically based off of the seriousness of the crime. Murder, for instance would have a much higher bond. Armed Robbery would be higher. Domestic assault would be higher and so forth.
both. risk to the community and risk of flight.
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