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re: Does the SEC want the Sooners?

Posted on 6/28/15 at 2:55 pm to
Posted by 50CalMG
The Mountain Top
Member since Jun 2012
476 posts
Posted on 6/28/15 at 2:55 pm to
Oklahoma was complicit in destroying the XII. You sold out your Big 8 brothers (including Nebraska) to grab the skirt of Texas. Now you get to live with the on-going repercussions

Preach it brother.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
60617 posts
Posted on 6/28/15 at 7:14 pm to
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They are a package deal only. T-Boone and the OK legislature will NEVER (big word) allow this to happen.


T Boone is not immortal

If the B12 dies, better 1 state school lands in the P4 than none. PAC has the room for both but already turned down OU with OU asking for the little brother to tag along.
Posted by mitchs3
Member since May 2012
138 posts
Posted on 6/28/15 at 7:32 pm to
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Biggest losers in realignment are ISU and KSU.


big 10 along with ku.


Safely the biggest "never" in a thread full of them. Iowa will never let ISU in the B1G. But more than that, the academic powerhouses of the B1G would sooner shut the whole thing down than let K-State - which at least until recently had the same admission standards as the KS junior college system - join their AAU club and share in CIC money.
Posted by Bubbles Up
Member since Jul 2011
2910 posts
Posted on 6/28/15 at 8:09 pm to
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5) Academics are fine. If we are looking at an entire university system(which would include law and medical schools in my opinion,) TAMU doesn't come close to measuring up to Texas, Florida, Bama,or Vandy. NO WHERE CLOSE. I'm tired of the constant academic smack talk from the Ags.


You're a fricking moron. Do you not even begin to realize what we spend on research system wide? Are you too stupid to not know that we have one of the largest genetic libraries in the world? Are you too retarded to know that we will be the one that produce pandemic vaccines if the need arises?

Texas, Florida, and Vanderbilt are all excellent schools. But to say TAMU isn't in the same league is just stupid and something you shouldn't say in public, unless you want to be laughed at.

Putting Alabama in this sentence tells me that you really just don't know shite.
This post was edited on 6/28/15 at 8:35 pm
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
60617 posts
Posted on 6/29/15 at 2:09 pm to
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Does the SEC want the Sooners?


Could be a moot point soon.

Most academic schools run on a school year cycle instead of a calendar year one.

Tomorrow is the last day of June which means at least 1 year added to any moves as the cycle will be over.

Before July 1 and could change for fall football
After June 30 and would have to wait till at least fall football the following year
Posted by 5thTiger
Member since Nov 2014
7996 posts
Posted on 6/29/15 at 2:35 pm to
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You're a fricking moron. Do you not even begin to realize what we spend on research system wide? Are you too stupid to not know that we have one of the largest genetic libraries in the world? Are you too retarded to know that we will be the one that produce pandemic vaccines if the need arises?


I think a lot of people underestimate the research/educational portion of the entire college system when involving expansion talk. Athletics brings in millions of dollars to a university, while also spending millions. Research partnerships bring in billions.

B1G isn't touching Okie state, KSU, or any "baggage" school with a 10 foot pole. ISU would be a last resort, only because they are AAU.

I hate to admit it, but kU is in a pretty good spot. National basketball brand, AAU, potential for football when Snyder finally calls it quits.

I don't remember who said it (someone in the B1G)...but they said "this expansion is about money, the next round will be about quality."

Also, just to respond to some people...there certainly plenty in the B1G who have said publicly that not getting Missouri was a mistake. Gee at Ohio State has said it multiple times.

Either the playoffs expand in 10 years, or the ACC/Big 12 get raided.
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 6/29/15 at 2:53 pm to
Wait wat
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
60617 posts
Posted on 6/30/15 at 12:28 pm to
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Also, just to respond to some people...there certainly plenty in the B1G who have said publicly that not getting Missouri was a mistake. Gee at Ohio State has said it multiple times.


He said he wanted MU and KU as a pair, and it was the smart move. I still think the B1G was waiting on a pair for Notre Dame to get to 13 and 14. Maryland makes the most sense in this power play.

Nebraska gets you to 12
MU and KU get you to 14
MD and ND get you to 16

Waited on MU and lost them and the Irish went ACC so Rutgers was there and KU got shut out.
Posted by mightysooner
Phoenix, AZ
Member since Jun 2015
1252 posts
Posted on 6/30/15 at 12:33 pm to
"It doesn't matter. I can't see Texas or OU ever wanting to compete in the SEC. It's too tough."


LOL!!! ^^^^^^ THIS GUY!
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
60617 posts
Posted on 6/30/15 at 5:35 pm to
News out of Oklahoma

LINK

Say's Houston and Cincinnati will make 10 into 12
Posted by nebraskafaninwi
Member since Mar 2013
2655 posts
Posted on 6/30/15 at 5:53 pm to
Texas isn't going to allow Houston to become a Big 12 member.

Oklahoma will be headed to the B1G.
Posted by hoginthesw
DFW
Member since Sep 2009
5329 posts
Posted on 6/30/15 at 5:53 pm to
Has attendance gone down for Texas? I can't imagine their t shirt fans suddenly coming back for the "big" games against Houston and Cincy. What lackluster games that conference has.
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
22079 posts
Posted on 7/4/15 at 6:52 am to
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Oklahoma will be headed to the B1G.


I hope so. The B1G would be a nice place for the arrogant F's to rot and wither.
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 7/4/15 at 6:58 am to
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Oklahoma brings no TVs to the table.

...and aTm did?
Posted by STRIPES
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
4771 posts
Posted on 7/4/15 at 7:27 am to
The SEC is too large already. If the SEC goes to 16 teams it becomes so large that even if we go to 9 conference games there would be 6 conference teams which you wouldn't be able to play on any given year. That is simply ridiculous. At some point reality and practicality must come into the equation.

What I would be in favor of is an Alliance between the Big 12 & the SEC which would schedule at least 1 game per season between each SEC/Big12 team.That way we would get to see an LSU/OU or LSU/Texas or Bama/Texas or Auburn/OU or UF/OU or UGA/OSU or Tenn/Baylor or USC/TCU or Ole Miss/KSU or maybe even A&M/Texas. In light of the new schduling requirements it makes sense to make some commitments with oher Power 5 schools and conferences. In addition, if we continue to have cconferences lose their top schools two things happen. The SEC gets tougher and tougher and the other conferences get easier and easier. With the new playoff format you can end up with an Iowa State winning their conference and getting a shot just because of their weak schedule.
Posted by AginAL
Member since Dec 2010
1378 posts
Posted on 7/4/15 at 7:47 am to
Tinfoil hat time.

OU's Boren's comments about realignment are an attempt to pressure Texas to abandon the LHN.The timing is perfect with a new Texas president and an embattled new AD. OU and OSU are tied at the hip and thus are a package deal. I don't see taking both to SEC. Getting into NC and VA remains the plan of expansion IMO. Likely when TV contracts expire, which is 2020s I believe. Big 12 will add Houston and Cincinnati to get 12 teams.
This post was edited on 7/4/15 at 7:56 am
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
20208 posts
Posted on 7/4/15 at 7:56 am to
Give me Clepsun, NCSt, etc. aTm is as far west as we need to go. UT, Ok are not good cultural fits for the SEC.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
60617 posts
Posted on 7/4/15 at 8:04 am to
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nebraskafaninwi


Lets say you really are a Nebraska fan and not just an alter to troll with

quote:

Texas isn't going to allow Houston to become a Big 12 member.


If Utx is worried about TAMU in the SEC taking over the Houston MSA then UH is probably already on the "good to go" list. If you really are a Nebraska fan and have been one since the B12 formation you should already know this.

quote:

Oklahoma will be headed to the B1G.


This may be the wet dream of B1G bloggers but as a Nebraska fan can you really tell me Nebraska sports are better off on the B1G than they might have been in the PAC?

Imagine if Nebraska had gone to the PAC and Larry Scott got these teams to form the PAC 16
Nebraska
Colorado
Texas
Oklahoma
Kansas
Missouri

Move the AZ schools to this division and you have a nucleus that would have been impossible to break and would have put the Big Red Thrashing Machine in sunny cities instead of the cold tundra that is the B1G.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 7/4/15 at 8:10 am to
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...and aTm did?



A&M is more valuable to the SEC's bottom line than Tennessee is. Sorry.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 7/4/15 at 8:20 am to
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Big 12 will add Houston and Cincinnati to get 12 teams.


Supposedly, folks in the know are saying that FOX wants UCF as team 11 while ESPN wants Cincinnati. (FOX is already in the Ohio market through the Big Ten)

Team 12, by this same source, is the compromise that they are willing to let Texas pick, which in this case is Houston because of how much ground A&M and LSU took away when A&M joined the SEC.
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