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re: Does Tenner remain ahead

Posted on 11/13/24 at 2:58 am to
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12725 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 2:58 am to
The fact that we won against a conference opponent by 20 with a backup QB for half the game tells me what they think. If we lose Saturday, they will drop us so far down that we can’t win our way back in. It’s fricking bullshite.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
24444 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 4:06 am to
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if Vols lose to GA they fall to 12.. GA moves up to 11, OM moves up to 10 and Bama moves up to 9.

They cant be any higher than GA with the same number of losses and a head to head loss

I think OM and Bama wins over GA have kind of established a line in the sand. GA cant go up if we both win out and TN cant stay above it they lose to GA


If GA beats Tennessee on Saturday, we are jumping ahead of both OM and Bama, and perhaps Miami and ND.

UGA would have wins over Clemson (neutral site), Texas (road) and Tennessee (home). Our losses would both be on the road against top 12 teams, while having the #1 SOS.

In that scenario, I could see Tennessee dropping behind UM and ND, but stay ahead of Bama and OM, leaving Ole Miss outside looking in


This post was edited on 11/13/24 at 4:09 am
Posted by TexasTwoTimingTed
Member since Nov 2024
192 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 4:45 am to
Bama just blew your fraud of a team out. The same Bama that Tennessee should have beaten by multiple scores. Also, Tennessee 's backup has been with Heupel forever and knows the offense better. Their offense didn't look like it took a step back to me with the backup in there. The kid didn't show any hesitation and was slinging it.
Posted by ukraine_rebel
North Mississippi
Member since Oct 2012
3233 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 4:58 am to
It depends on the score, if they lose in a triple OT thriller, decent chance, lose by 10 or more, then probably not. As someone above says, when you lose matters almost as much as who you lose to. Committee is looking for 12 best teams, if you’re legitimately top 12, you go into Athens and compete.
Posted by BigOrangeLoyalist
Warner Robins, GA
Member since Aug 2016
3017 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 5:27 am to
I’m not sure where folks are getting the narrative that the VOLS struggled with UK. The game was never in question, and it was 28-10 til they added a late 8. The VOLS’ MO this season hasn’t been to blow teams out, but a two score victory in a pseudo-rivalry game isn’t “barely won.”
Posted by GTnerd
ATL Jawja baby
Member since Sep 2023
568 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 6:05 am to
Who has the bigger fanbase? Gets better tv ratings? That’s who the playoff committee will pick if all things else are relatively equal
Posted by Shunface
Lafayette County Detention Center
Member since Jan 2013
4988 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 6:26 am to
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And Ole Miss is already out




quote:

The loser of the UT-UGA game is very likely out of the playoffs


This is true. Except the Vols are more likely to be FSU’d. The difference between the two is FSU quarterback was actually good before injury. The Vols just talked like their qb was good.
Posted by Blackadder
Member since Feb 2024
1420 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 7:07 am to
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Thats why they're sitting their qb. So they can have an excuse.

Tennessee beat your shitty team, and you had a Heisman Trophy winner qb.

Maybe you should have sat Nuss. You might have scored a few points last weekend.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7341 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 7:49 am to
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hey cant be any higher than GA with the same number of losses and a head to head loss


The problem with the head to head logic is it doesn't work with reality.

UT, Bama and UGA in that scenario would all have losses. UGA beating UT, UT beating Bama and Bama beating UGA. You have to rank them in some order and head to head doesn't factor because they would all have that with one of the other 2 teams.
Posted by Draino54
Member since Mar 2022
930 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 7:52 am to
Definitely not a Ga fan but with that schedule, they should be highest rated 2 loss team if they beat Tennessee. Ole Miss schedule strength is gonna take a hit with Fla & Miss St by end of season. Also a HOME loss to a losing Ky team is the worst loss, thus far, by any contender.
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
15247 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 7:53 am to
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UT, Bama and UGA in that scenario would all have losses. UGA beating UT, UT beating Bama and Bama beating UGA. You have to rank them in some order and head to head doesn't factor because they would all have that with one of the other 2 teams.


Also how do you rank Ole Miss there with a win over UGA and combined 50 point win margin against the 2 teams that beat Tennessee?
Posted by BigOrangeLoyalist
Warner Robins, GA
Member since Aug 2016
3017 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 8:01 am to
If the VOLS beat Georgia this weekend, all this talk is for nothing
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7341 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 8:03 am to
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Also how do you rank Ole Miss there with a win over UGA and combined 50 point win margin against the 2 teams that beat Tennessee?


You don't use head to head as a primary factor, you use the total schedule.

The reality is in all the matchups between these teams in this scenario the home team would have won.

For the sake of argument I'm going to assume SC loses to Clemson on the road, Mizzou loses to SC on the road and the ranked teams beat unranked teams in other matchups which would likely leave SC unranked and Mizzou barely in the top 25 at the end of the season.

You'd then have matchups as follows:

Alabama - win over ranked UGA, LSU and Mizzou all at home. Loss to ranked Tennessee, unranked Vandy both on road.

UGA - Win over ranked Tennessee (home), Texas (road) and Clemson (neutral). Loss to ranked OM and Bama on road.

Tennessee - Win over ranked Bama (home). Loss to ranked UGA and unranked Arkansas on the road.

OM - Win over ranked UGA (home). Loss to ranked LSU (road) and unranked UK (home).


Of course that could change if SC wins out which would strengthen OM's resume. But I think that's the order of those 4 teams at the end of the year if that scenario happens.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7341 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 8:04 am to
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If the VOLS beat Georgia this weekend, all this talk is for nothing


Very true. Simplest answer for UT is to win.
Posted by Gator Fever
Member since Sep 2021
2561 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 8:08 am to
Better question is does GA go in front of both of them with a win. TX, TN and Clemson wins and a Bama and Ole Miss loss.
This post was edited on 11/13/24 at 8:10 am
Posted by David Fellows
Chicago but Georgia on my mind
Member since Mar 2024
1226 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 8:16 am to
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Very true. Simplest answer for UT is to win.


Except they lost their 5* quarterback so they have no chance.



Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7341 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 8:19 am to
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Except they lost their 5* quarterback so they have no chance.


Their QB wasn't good before so I don't know if it matters. Tennessee won games with defense and running game.

It was kind of like when UF's QB got injured against UGA. He was sucking it up before he got hurt, and the guy who came in after him played about the same in the UGA game. So it didn't really matter.

I don't think Nico being out matters. To beat UGA, UT would need to run the ball well and play good defense. That's still their path to win without Nico.
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
12155 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 8:19 am to
Who knows but I would rather be a team winning the big games at the end of the season than a team losing big games at the end of the season.
Posted by RebelTheBear
Saban's spare bedroom
Member since Aug 2016
5775 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 8:32 am to
Tennessee won't have done enough in the eyes of the committee if they lose this weekend, especially if they lose bigly. A one-score win over Alabama isn't as good as a three-score win over Georgia. Also, arguing if a 3-point loss to Kentucky or a 5-point loss to Arkansas is worse isn't going to be enough to make up for the fact that Tennessee lost to a team (Georgia) that Ole Miss just manhandled the week before.

Tennessee being a 1-loss SEC team but still being ranked BEHIND BYU and Indiana should tell y'all what the CFP Committee thinks about Tennessee. The Vols are a "show me" team right now, especially since Ole Miss showed the Committee what they can do last weekend.
This post was edited on 11/13/24 at 8:33 am
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
14190 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 8:32 am to
No, they drop. ...big

They have the worst loss of the top 5 teams. That being Arkansas.
This post was edited on 11/13/24 at 8:34 am
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