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re: Does Schiano Have a Libel Case Against Clay Travis?

Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:47 pm to
Posted by the_watcher
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Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:47 pm to
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Isn't the subtext on Travis' part here not only that Schiano is unfit for the UTk job at HC, but Travis is trying to get him fired for his current gig, too?

Unequivocally false. You just made that up
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Where was this outrage when he moved to Columbus? Better yet, when did this information come to light while he was at Rutgers?

The court document was unsealed 1 year ago. It wasn't known before then.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:56 pm to
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Unequivocally false. You just made that up


It's subtext dude. If he came right out and said it, I wouldn't have implied that it was, you know, implied. You'd never get CT to cop to that in a million years, but the thought certainly has to have come to him as he sees the drooling Sister-Kisser torch & pitchfork brigade form beneath his tweets.
Posted by KiwiHead
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Posted on 11/27/17 at 1:03 pm to
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Even if everything you say is 100% true and accurate, it is a question of a libel case against Clay Travis. Can't have libel claim without proof of libel. Therefore, there is zero chance of a libel suit.


Libel would not apply here, but if Schiano wanted to, I see a good case for slander, spoken word statement. If you could prove that Travis knew his statements were bullshite, he's on record as saying defamatory and possibly tortious things in regards to Schiano that would hurt his career because they are not true.
Posted by cyde
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Posted on 11/27/17 at 1:04 pm to
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Does Schiano Have a Libel Case Against Clay Travis?
I'd say that if it comes to light that McQueary's testimony was less than credible (it was secondhand information, after all), then Schiano's attorneys would have a pretty easy time demonstrating loss of reputation and potential income.

Pretty easy, indeed.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 11/27/17 at 1:04 pm to
I ventured libel since Travis can't go 45 seconds without transcribing his thoughts on Twitter. You're right about slander likely being more applicable here.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 11/27/17 at 1:06 pm to
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loss of reputation and potential income.


That's my thought. You're looking at a $20M swing, BEFORE you analyze any potential impact for his current position at tOSU. Does this affect any bonuses or extension as DC?
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 11/27/17 at 1:08 pm to
Clay Travis may be an insufferable douchebag, but he's also a lawyer and there's no way he'd do/say something that could come back on him in court.

Tony Basilio is a different story. I listened to his show last night because the meltdown was glorious, and he was straight up calling Schiano a pedophile.
Posted by MikeAV8s
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Posted on 11/27/17 at 1:15 pm to
Hypothetical; Today I was a witness in a trial, someone stole something from my employer and I was called to testify. That part is true, here is my hypothetical as it relates to this. Lets assume that during my testimony that I say, " someone told me that Joe Schmuck was driving the car, but I cant recall who told me this" I assume the judge would strike this remark, but if not, did I not just enter into record a falsehood? There would be no way to prove I lied. My point being, I don't necessarily disbelieve McQuaery, but neither do I believe him because he is a shitbag too, but Schiano cant disprove the testimony whether he is innocent or not.
Posted by samson73103
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Posted on 11/27/17 at 1:19 pm to
Libel can be hard to prove and considering the fact Clay Travis is a former lawyer, I assume he knows the correct loopholes to make certain a libel case won’t stick.
Posted by the_watcher
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Posted on 11/27/17 at 1:48 pm to
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It's subtext dude. If he came right out and said it, I wouldn't have implied that it was, you know, implied. You'd never get CT to cop to that in a million years, but the thought certainly has to have come to him as he sees the drooling Sister-Kisser torch & pitchfork brigade form beneath his tweets.

So you are speculating what his mindset is from some subtext of his tweets that no one else has noticed or mentioned?
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You're right about slander likely being more applicable here.

An opinion that a coach isn't good at being a coach isn't slander. It's an opinion.
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You're looking at a $20M swing, BEFORE you analyze any potential impact for his current position at tOSU. Does this affect any bonuses or extension as DC?

Can no one publicly comment on the abilities of any coach? You are reaching so hard for something that isn't there at all. For the 5th time, he referenced an unsealed court document. It's public record. It's sworn testimony under oath. He didn't claim anonymous sources on an exclusive story. There isn't going to be a lawsuit.
Posted by SeeeeK
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 11/27/17 at 1:55 pm to
Clay went to the dark side of twitter.

He talks shite about twitter mobs and then starts one himself, then doubled down on stupid, with PSU stuff.

Everything mqueery claims has been debunked. It has been investigated and found to have no proof. The guy mcqueery claims was part of the gossip, said he never told mcqueery a thing and that he has no clue what he's talking about.

Loser Vol fans and Clay set on a campaign to smear Schiano, and they did a great job. Clays time is coming.
Posted by the_watcher
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Posted on 11/27/17 at 2:10 pm to
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Everything mqueery claims has been debunked. It has been investigated and found to have no proof. The guy mcqueery claims was part of the gossip, said he never told mcqueery a thing and that he has no clue what he's talking about.

Not one single thing you said is true. Nothing has been debunked. What do you expect Bradley to say - that he did fact say that about Shiano, implicating himself. Please, tell me about all the times someone has admitted to being negligent on child rape cases years later.

Victim number 4 said Bradley saw him in the shower with Sandusky. Is he lying too? Is he telling the truth about the rape but lying about Bradley seeing him?
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