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re: Does having a 'religious' coach help a program?
Posted on 11/5/13 at 8:14 am to adawgj
Posted on 11/5/13 at 8:14 am to adawgj
But you know...as long as I played football, I never heard a coach pray for a win. I HAVE heard coaches, or players pray that both teams display good character and ask God to protect both teams from injury.
I played for one of the biggest Christian coaches in the state (Georgia) in high school. He is also considered one of the most successful, and won more games at a certain age than any other coach.
Won several national Championships (USA Today) and multiple state championships. Unfortunately he died at a relatively young age of a heart attack. But he lived his faith. I remember one kid got kicked out of his house by an alcoholic father and the coach took him into his home to live.
I played for one of the biggest Christian coaches in the state (Georgia) in high school. He is also considered one of the most successful, and won more games at a certain age than any other coach.
Won several national Championships (USA Today) and multiple state championships. Unfortunately he died at a relatively young age of a heart attack. But he lived his faith. I remember one kid got kicked out of his house by an alcoholic father and the coach took him into his home to live.
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Posted on 11/5/13 at 8:16 am to Mizz-SEC
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Only the greatest coach in NFL history espoused the credo, "faith, family and the Green Bay Packers."
And he would have been the coach of the New York Giants had it not been for the owners extreme anti-Catholic stance and famously saying no person with a vowel at the end of their last name would ever be their head coach.
Posted on 11/5/13 at 8:18 am to genro
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Oh someone definitely slipped it to the Malzahns that they should chill out on the religion thing
Sure...you can speak out on homosexual rights, for or against a President, speak on abortion and give political ideology, but whoa be unto the coach that dares speak of his faith. that is going way too far and being way too radical.
Posted on 11/5/13 at 8:20 am to thefloydian
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Eventually one of these coaches will get the university sued for preaching.
You are concerned about this but have nothing to say about all the cheating that goes on?
Posted on 11/5/13 at 8:23 am to KaiserSoze99
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If a coach just lives his religion without forcing it on players, it's usually not that big a problem, but I have seen what religious coaches can do when they demand the same from their players. It can be corrupting to a program. Our last baseball coach was that way.
Out of curiosity, what did your coach do?
Posted on 11/5/13 at 8:29 am to hawgfaninc
I don't think I've ever heard Saban bring up God after a big victory. He's smart enough to know that God doesn't give a shite about who wins or loses a game in college football.
Posted on 11/5/13 at 8:31 am to RTR America
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Do you have some alert that goes off for things like this. Religion can be where any one wants it to be unless you hate the constitution
Very true, the idea of separation of church and state is so the government can't interfere with someones right to practice religion and be vocal about it. Unfortunately, that has been perverted into quite the reverse.
Posted on 11/5/13 at 8:36 am to Bench McElroy
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I don't think I've ever heard Saban bring up God after a big victory.
That's what Kevin Elko is for. He is the secret weapon called in for the big games. Probably gonna be on site in T-town Fri and Sat. Kevin is very religious and a super motivational guy. The players love him.
Posted on 11/5/13 at 9:58 am to DawgsLife
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quote:Jesus also said you should give away all your possessions and live in poverty. Have you done that? Noooooo. Jesus NEVER said that. he told the rich young ruler that HE should give away his possessions and follow Him(Jesus). Why? because Jesus knew the rich young ruler loved his money and possessions more than anything else in the world. But He was speaking to one person in particular in that case. If you are talking about another instance, then I'm sorry. Please give me a reference and I will look it up.
Ohhhh. Ok - good thing.
Poor pastor
Posted on 11/5/13 at 10:02 am to Bench McElroy
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I don't think I've ever heard Saban bring up God after a big victory.
Why would he when he already feels he is there? Don't all you Bama fans bring Tide and Offerings to his altar?
Posted on 11/5/13 at 12:16 pm to Bench McElroy
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don't think I've ever heard Saban bring up God after a big victory. He's smart enough to know that God doesn't give a shite about who wins or loses a game in college football.
And if Saban had thanked God, would that make it more legitimate? If someone wants to thank God, why does it bother you? You can say almost anything in our country and not get criticized, but you draw the line at this?
Posted on 11/5/13 at 12:20 pm to CreoleAubie
Don't know who that guy is and don't care. if he is doing something wrong the that is between him and God. Not sure why you care. However, if God said all Christians should give up all their possessions, then he is wrong. I am still waiting for the scripture you saw that in.
Do you criticize college football coaches for making huge sums of money? How about CEO's of companies. College Presidents? How about rock stars? Actors?
No? Then why Christians?
Do you criticize college football coaches for making huge sums of money? How about CEO's of companies. College Presidents? How about rock stars? Actors?
No? Then why Christians?
Posted on 11/5/13 at 12:23 pm to hawgfaninc
Maybe in the deep dirty south.
Posted on 11/5/13 at 12:44 pm to GruntbyAssociation
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Very true, the idea of separation of church and state is so the government can't interfere with someones right to practice religion and be vocal about it. Unfortunately, that has been perverted into quite the reverse.
Not perverted. It's also so religion can't get involved in govt so the rest of us don't have to live by another's reigious dogma - like they have to Iran.
Posted on 11/5/13 at 2:03 pm to MIZ_COU
Seriously? Show me where anyone at all has interpreted that religious people cannot get involved in government.
The Constitution clearly says that it is so the government cannot establish a religion and promote it. It has absolutely NOTHING to do with religious people or organizations getting involved in government.
The Constitution clearly says that it is so the government cannot establish a religion and promote it. It has absolutely NOTHING to do with religious people or organizations getting involved in government.
Posted on 11/5/13 at 2:06 pm to DawgsLife
They can get involved in government of course. Just can't force their religious ideas down any one's throat.
This is America where no religion is better than another one.
This is America where no religion is better than another one.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 12:00 pm to DawgsLife
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Does having a 'religious' coach help a program?Don't know who that guy is and don't care. if he is doing something wrong the that is between him and God. Not sure why you care. However, if God said all Christians should give up all their possessions, then he is wrong. I am still waiting for the scripture you saw that in. Do you criticize college football coaches for making huge sums of money? How about CEO's of companies. College Presidents? How about rock stars? Actors? No? Then why Christians?
I didn't quote anything from the bible. It's just a book dude. You may believe it is the infallible word of God like so many people - I don't. The point I am making about this preacher dude is that religions have ALWAYS preyed on the weak. Period. To recruit believers, and to get money. This dude is a fricking preacher whose 16K sq foot house reaks of waste and greed. It is at complete odds with the core values of christianity that are professed to be kindness, love, and giving of yourself. That's why I posted the link. I am not saying God told rich people to gie away their money - hell, I wish I had more money than I do. But at the same time, I believe ostentatiousness and christian leaders should not go together.
My belief. Don't need a book to tell me what's right and wrong in my eyes.
Posted on 11/7/13 at 3:37 pm to hawgfaninc
Speaking from experience..No, it sends your program straight to the depths of hell. It's a scary place..a land of no conference wins and 50 point blowouts...a land of shitty defense and a shittier offense...a land of large coaches and small crowds..
Trust me, you don't want to go there
Trust me, you don't want to go there
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