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re: Does Bama "just" have to win to get the championship game?
Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:44 am to Grey Matter
Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:44 am to Grey Matter
Honestly, most people would be desperate to put Bama in on the hopes we lose that game - put Bama in another game and win, ending undefeated? Just more fuel to the fire.
Besides, if Va Tech continues to win, then we're looking at Alabama ending the season with at least 4 legit, semi-elite to elite wins. Auburn continues to impress as well. We could end the season with 5-6 wins over ranked opponents (SECCG, A&M, LSU, AU, Va Tech, and a possible one from an unknown).
I would imagine that is a legit enough resume. Not to mention that Alabama could, feasibly, end up playing UGA in the title game. If we do, and we win it (in your scenario), by more than 3, then it will be a "better" win than Clemson's over UGA.
Besides, if Va Tech continues to win, then we're looking at Alabama ending the season with at least 4 legit, semi-elite to elite wins. Auburn continues to impress as well. We could end the season with 5-6 wins over ranked opponents (SECCG, A&M, LSU, AU, Va Tech, and a possible one from an unknown).
I would imagine that is a legit enough resume. Not to mention that Alabama could, feasibly, end up playing UGA in the title game. If we do, and we win it (in your scenario), by more than 3, then it will be a "better" win than Clemson's over UGA.
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:54 am to TigerTreyjpg
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:56 am to TigerTreyjpg
If Bama benefitted from "controversial" late game calls each of their remaining games, and won by 1 point every single one of those games, they would still be invited to BCS title
Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:57 am to Scoob
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Bama would currently be ranked 3rd instead of 1st.
I'd say 2nd, if voters were paying attention to who actually was being played against. Alabama has wins over two currently ranked teams and another who was ranked, one of those over a top 10 team. Clemson's win over UGA is just as good, from a poll-perspective, as Alabama's over A&M, but Oregon hasn't played a single team with a winning record. Tennessee's loss to Florida proved they were in the midst of a horrible stretch, and almost losing to USA was just bad. They played UGA close because UGA's D is bad and they have three critical starters out with injuries.
*IF* people were actually paying attention to who beat who, then the rankings should be:
1. Alabama
2. Clemson
3. Ohio State
4. Oregon
Based on year-to-date competition.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 10:57 am to BearBait09
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If Bama benefitted from "controversial" late game calls each of their remaining games, and won by 1 point every single one of those games, they would still be invited to BCS title
We call that the "Notre Dame Rule"
Posted on 10/7/13 at 11:08 am to TigerTreyjpg
Yes, when a team had won the NC three out of theast four years you have to take it from them on the field! Alabama must lose to not make the NCG.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 11:18 am to Crimson Legend
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There have been plenty of things happen in college football in recent years
Not one of them was the preseason #1 and #1 team in the BCS going undefeated and failing to make the title game. There is no scenario this would happen. It is useless to discuss. Auburn in 2004 had the best chance to jump undefeated OU at #2 and couldn't do it. The SEC is still the most respected football conference in America and no #1 team from the SEC is going to navigate a SEC schedule undefeated and be overtaken by a ACC team. It just is not going to happen. If Bama were to barely escape a couple of their lesser games like AU or UT I could see Oregon closing the gap significantly, but Bama would still be #1 going into the title game.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 11:24 am to TigerTreyjpg
I see what you're saying, but Bama didn't even win their fricking division in 2011 and got to play for a championship over the Big-12 conference champ who had the same record and a better resume.
We have the same voters and system now that we had when that atrocity happened.
They're getting in if they have even a shred of an argument.
We have the same voters and system now that we had when that atrocity happened.
They're getting in if they have even a shred of an argument.
This post was edited on 10/7/13 at 11:25 am
Posted on 10/7/13 at 11:37 am to Golgi Apparatus
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What an embarrassing counter argument. You're comparing the 2013 bcs championship season to a year where there was no national championship and in the heart of the civil rights era.
Stop being contrarian just because you can.
I'm sorry you're embarrassed because you don't follow the argument. I'll be glad to explain it:
An undefeated Alabama, coming off TWO STRAIGHT national titles, was voted third behind Notre Dame and Michigan State, who tied. This is the same underlying principle as the current argument - voters ignored the fact that Alabama was the two-time national champs and voted two teams above them with a WEAKER record. It seems impossible and ridiculous, but it happened.
Just because it seems highly unlikely doesn't make it impossible. And it's an interesting question to me - I don't assume someone is a troll just because he is a rival fan who asks whether my team is a shoo-in for the title game.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 11:40 am to TigerTreyjpg
This can't be a legit thread
Posted on 10/7/13 at 11:40 am to Crimson Legend
not only are those voters no longer voting, odds are good they are dead.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 11:40 am to TigerTreyjpg
Yes, all they need to do is win, nothing more.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 11:42 am to TigerTreyjpg
Jesus.
Christ.
Christ.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 11:42 am to Herman Frisco
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To be the king you must kill the king.
Unless you are a Mormon. BYU killed a Joker that year and got to be the king.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 11:44 am to skrayper
LSU fan logic
LSU ranked #10 with 1 loss, win out and they are in easily.
Alabama ranked #1 with 0 losses, win out and they may not make it.
LSU ranked #10 with 1 loss, win out and they are in easily.
Alabama ranked #1 with 0 losses, win out and they may not make it.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 11:49 am to TigerTreyjpg
With wins over A&M, LSU, and Georgia, I don't see how anyone could keep them out regardless of how the games went down. These are all legit top 10 teams.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 11:50 am to NawlinsTiger9
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We have the same voters and system now that we had when that atrocity happened.
Coming from the only team to ever win the BCS as a 2 loss team.
Who else should have been in over LSU (the undoubted response)?
Va Tech, Oklahoma, Mizzou, and LSU were all 11-2
UGA was 10-2, and Kansas was 11-1.
LSU was in that game because the job of the BCS is to put #1 against #2. The job is for the two best teams to play each other for the championship. That job didn't change from 2007 to 2011. Any logical objective observer knows that in 2007 the two best teams were LSU & OSU. In 2011 the two best teams were LSU & Bama.
This crying over 2011 needs to stop.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 11:52 am to TigerTreyjpg
If what you typed plays out.. Bama would have beaten
Aggies, still likely a top ten team
Lsu, likely a top ten team
Georgia, likely a top ten to top 15 team
Va Tech, likely a top 25 team
and other possible top 25 teams at the end of the season
Auburn
Ole Miss
depending on how they finish out from here.
Now, what do you think?
Aggies, still likely a top ten team
Lsu, likely a top ten team
Georgia, likely a top ten to top 15 team
Va Tech, likely a top 25 team
and other possible top 25 teams at the end of the season
Auburn
Ole Miss
depending on how they finish out from here.
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Does an undefeated Bama get left out in favor of two of those that win out named above?
Now, what do you think?
Posted on 10/7/13 at 11:52 am to TigerTreyjpg
They are the two time defending champion you moron. What the hell is the point of this thread?
Posted on 10/7/13 at 11:55 am to TigerTreyjpg
Bama got in 2011 after losing a game to its NC opponent earlier in the season and not even playing in the SECCG. What makes you think there is any way they would get left out if undefeated? They could play GA St. 3 times during the season, beat just two quality SEC teams at home, and still get in over 4 other undefeated teams. The better question is what does LSU have to do to keep them out. The answer as usual is run the table against one of the toughest schedules in the country.
This post was edited on 10/7/13 at 11:56 am
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