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re: Do you think LSU would have scored a td if no pf was called?
Posted on 11/13/14 at 8:49 am to Fratigerguy
Posted on 11/13/14 at 8:49 am to Fratigerguy
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But we have to look at the law of averages. LSU was running for 4 yds per. 3 plays from the 6? Yeah...I like LSU's chances. So did the refs...
If you went by averages LSU would have never went 3 and out on the previous 2 drives, and you would have scored on every single drive.
Law of averages? That's some funny stuff right there.
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 8:51 am to lsusteve1
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a TD would have happened and it would have essentially sealed it
Well Bama should have been ahead 17-10 (if not for a no call on blatant PI, on D white earlier in the end zone ) so at best that td, which lsu wouldn't have gotten, would have been for a tie. Bama should've won in regulation but the refs bailed out LSU multiple times throughout the game.
Posted on 11/13/14 at 8:53 am to CatsGoneWild
better question is, How much time would bama have had if that PF was not called? Would they have had enough time to get into field goal range?
Posted on 11/13/14 at 8:53 am to spacewrangler
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blatant PI, on D white earlier in the end zone
Posted on 11/13/14 at 9:28 am to meauxjeaux2
They called a TO immediately after the play regardless. It didn't make a difference in the final time.
LSU wouldn't have scored a TD, but being closer I bet they run more legit running plays attempting to score that bleed 4-5 total seconds off the clock. The call shifted lsu into a defensive mode that they never turned back around.
Offense defense and special teams all failed to execute in the last minute while Bama did their job to an absolute T. That was the difference in the game.
That and Bama's punter preventing LSU from capitalizing on their defensive performance to gain a field position advangate. The dude was killer, and was easily Bama's mvp.
LSU wouldn't have scored a TD, but being closer I bet they run more legit running plays attempting to score that bleed 4-5 total seconds off the clock. The call shifted lsu into a defensive mode that they never turned back around.
Offense defense and special teams all failed to execute in the last minute while Bama did their job to an absolute T. That was the difference in the game.
That and Bama's punter preventing LSU from capitalizing on their defensive performance to gain a field position advangate. The dude was killer, and was easily Bama's mvp.
Posted on 11/13/14 at 9:30 am to CrippleCreek
If my aunt had nuts she would be my uncle. Just sayin.....
Posted on 11/13/14 at 9:31 am to meauxjeaux2
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blatant PI, on D white earlier in the end zone
Go back and look if you don't believe it. But winners don't bitch about bad calls. Only losers do.
Posted on 11/13/14 at 9:33 am to CrippleCreek
quote:the PF stopped the clock didn't it?
They called a TO immediately after the play regardless. It didn't make a difference in the final time.
quote:they might not have and i don't like talking about subjective things.
LSU wouldn't have scored a TD
I do not think bama would have had enough time to score had that PF not been called. Bad kickoff and all.
Posted on 11/13/14 at 9:36 am to meauxjeaux2
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the PF stopped the clock didn't it?
Yes for the call itself but would have started again on the ready for play had Bama not taken a tomeout. In that situation saban was standing with the side judge to call timeouts after every play to preserve time.
Bama has to have all 3 timeouts left for anything to make a dofference. That means never having a single communication breakdown and having to use a timeout early in a tight game. It's really impressive.
Posted on 11/13/14 at 10:13 am to CatsGoneWild
Probably not. Heres a question for you. If the ref doesn't miss the blatant hack job on deandrew white on the second play of the tieing drive, do we score a td instead of a field goal? It took like 10-12 seconds of the clock to get back to that position on the field. Or how about if you don't get handed an unforced fumble on the six yard line? Or how about if we score a td on that drive with the other big pi against white, hand holding in the endzone, instead of no points? Lots of things happen in closer games that are then blown out of proportion after the fact. Ive yet to see an lsu fan say the leon brown call in ot was questionable, which it 100% was based on how they called the rest of the game and the fact that the whistle had not blown. We get 20 yards in penalties from the 1 yard line in ot, yet the refs were trying to give us the game?
This post was edited on 11/13/14 at 11:14 am
Posted on 11/13/14 at 10:15 am to CatsGoneWild
Personal foul or unsportsmanlike conduct?
Posted on 11/13/14 at 10:16 am to CatsGoneWild
Would DeAndrew White have scored a TD had he not been held in the end zone?
Posted on 11/13/14 at 10:18 am to LSUTigersVCURams
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Sid E Walker
Lol your sig pic is an abomination sir
Clever and funny, if the loss wasn't so heartbreaking.
Posted on 11/13/14 at 10:19 am to JaboStokes
The PF, if LSU had ANY imagination on Offense, could have been a blessing in disguise. Bama had three time outs. From the six, you likely run the ball three times, Bama calls all time outs, you kick (or score and Bama saves a time out) and then you give Bama the ball back (like what actually happened).
After the personal foul, you could have gotten a first down without scoring, thus forcing Bama to exhaust their timeouts and putting LSU in position to score with no time on the clcok.
At some point stop blaming the refs and look at your coaches.
After the personal foul, you could have gotten a first down without scoring, thus forcing Bama to exhaust their timeouts and putting LSU in position to score with no time on the clcok.
At some point stop blaming the refs and look at your coaches.
Posted on 11/13/14 at 10:20 am to CrippleCreek
Strategically, the PF made no difference in the game. After Yeldon's fumble, LSU had to accomplish one of two things: get a TD or get a FG while forcing Bama to use all of their TOs. They did the latter, so the drive was a success.
The PF certainly hurt mentally, considering the PTSD recent LSU teams have in dealing with Bama. For that call to not be offsetting certainly put the team in a "here we go again" mode.
Strategically, the more costly officiating mistake was the missed illegal motion call on the first play of overtime. Since illegal motion does not stop the play, it's not hard to assume that everything that happened on the play would have happened anyway. So, simply throwing the flag there puts Bama at 1st and 15 at the 30 instead of 1st & goal at the 1. Then add in the PF at the end of that play, and Bama could have easily been 1st and 30 at the 45 on the second play in overtime.
That's a big difference, and we would have witnessed a classic Saban sideline meltdown.
Oh well, the officials didn't cost us the game. Poor defense on the last regulation drive did.
GEAUX TIGERS
The PF certainly hurt mentally, considering the PTSD recent LSU teams have in dealing with Bama. For that call to not be offsetting certainly put the team in a "here we go again" mode.
Strategically, the more costly officiating mistake was the missed illegal motion call on the first play of overtime. Since illegal motion does not stop the play, it's not hard to assume that everything that happened on the play would have happened anyway. So, simply throwing the flag there puts Bama at 1st and 15 at the 30 instead of 1st & goal at the 1. Then add in the PF at the end of that play, and Bama could have easily been 1st and 30 at the 45 on the second play in overtime.
That's a big difference, and we would have witnessed a classic Saban sideline meltdown.
Oh well, the officials didn't cost us the game. Poor defense on the last regulation drive did.
GEAUX TIGERS
Posted on 11/13/14 at 10:23 am to CatsGoneWild
Do you think Wisconsin would've won if their coaches would've given Gordon the ball?
If Treon Harris starts instead of Driskel, does Florida win the east?
If Treon Harris starts instead of Driskel, does Florida win the east?
Posted on 11/13/14 at 10:23 am to CatsGoneWild
No. But it wouldn't have mattered. Bama would have tied it with a TD. Because of the "1 minute left and Chavis" strategy LSU loves to use on D.
Posted on 11/13/14 at 10:25 am to Thorny
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Since illegal motion does not stop the play, it's not hard to assume that everything that happened on the play would have happened anyway. So, simply throwing the flag there puts Bama at 1st and 15 at the 30 instead of 1st & goal at the 1. Then add in the PF at the end of that play, and Bama could have easily been 1st and 30 at the 45 on the second play in overtime.
you don't get both penalties, hoss.
Posted on 11/13/14 at 10:29 am to bamasgot13
LSU pounded away...ran and ran and ran..but never broke that defense. I don't think they could run it in.
Posted on 11/13/14 at 10:30 am to CatsGoneWild
we'll never know since the t(ide)POS refs injected themselves into the game
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