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re: Do you care if your coach does this if you win a natty
Posted on 4/5/22 at 1:50 pm to Colonel Ingus
Posted on 4/5/22 at 1:50 pm to Colonel Ingus
If I gave a shite about WBB it would bother me.
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Posted on 4/5/22 at 1:52 pm to so_comfort
This isn’t students in a classroom or saluting. They were athletes voluntarily representing a school. They are not harmed by being expected to show up and stand up.
Failure to do so should result in disqualification of players and forfeiture of the contest if they cannot field a team. And should apply to all nations officially recognized anthems.
Failure to do so should result in disqualification of players and forfeiture of the contest if they cannot field a team. And should apply to all nations officially recognized anthems.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 1:54 pm to redeye
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Everyone should be forced to stand during the Pledge of Allegiance,
National anthem isn’t the pledge of allegiance.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 1:55 pm to atlanta917
Athletes have an obligation that the fan does not.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 1:57 pm to HogAllMighty
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Liberty and justice for all"? What a joke.
Who does that not apply to because of a government in the US?
Posted on 4/5/22 at 1:57 pm to Smokeyone
I'm not surprised by some of the UGA responses in this thread...Georgia is, after all, a blue, beta male state...I did expect better from Arkansas.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 1:58 pm to Smokeyone
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National anthem isn’t the pledge of allegiance.
No, that was a different Socialist.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 1:59 pm to GetCocky11
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I hope you said your pledge of allegiance this morning. You aren't a true American if you don't pledge every morning.
So, showing a lack of respect for your country, flag and National Anthem makes you a better citizen, and patriot now?
A lot of people won't like this because I am about to quote the Bible, but...
“Everything is permissible for me,” but not everything is beneficial. 1 Corinthians 6:12
Just because we can do something....and just because it is legal and/or protected does not mean we should do it. I'm not sure when it happened, or why it happened, but somewhere along the way protesting anything and everything that represents our country has become fashionable and somehow gained the label of Patriotism.
Do you have the right to do it? Yes. Doesn't mean you should.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 2:03 pm to Colonel Ingus
They can do it and I won't care one way or the other. I'd never even be aware of it if some y'all didn't get your panties twisted every time a kid decided to rebel at the school assembly. 
Posted on 4/5/22 at 2:07 pm to Prof
Quite child...men are talking.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 2:08 pm to themetalreb
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Quite child...men are talking.
Children worry about what Tommy is doing. Men do not.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 2:13 pm to Smokeyone
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This isn’t students in a classroom or saluting. They were athletes voluntarily representing a school. They are not harmed by being expected to show up and stand up.
Failure to do so should result in disqualification of players and forfeiture of the contest if they cannot field a team. And should apply to all nations officially recognized anthems.
You are correct in that the NCAA as an organization could by all accounts "require" athletes to "show up and stand up". The First Amendment only protects individuals against the government making laws to curtail the freedoms established therein.
With that being said, the compulsory nature of a forced display of patriotism goes against the very spirit of the freedoms the American flag represents. Ironic isn't it? Abridging a person's freedom of peaceful protest actively violates a main principle for which the compulsory activity professes to exalt.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 2:16 pm to FinleyStreet
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Having the national anthem played before a sporting event is actually kind of random if you think about it.
I can see your point, but in this case it was for the national championship, so I would think it very relevant. Otherwise why would they care about winning the championship of a nation they have no respect for?
Posted on 4/5/22 at 2:19 pm to bigDgator
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I can see your point, but in this case it was for the national championship, so I would think it very relevant. Otherwise why would they care about winning the championship of a nation they have no respect for?
Except that no college title is given out by the government or nation.** It's simply called a national title because that sounds good and you're competing within the nation.
**Texas might have a claim to the only one with Nixon's declaration.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 2:20 pm to Prof
Splitting hairs are we?
Posted on 4/5/22 at 2:21 pm to Colonel Ingus
Staley is your typical supporter of the erosion of morally normal behavior. What a terrible role model for young women. She's a drum pounder for BLM and loves the biden type people lifestyle. So brave.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 2:22 pm to Arkapigdiesel
Kudos sir...Tony and all the gang at Satriales would agree I'm sure.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 2:28 pm to bigDgator
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Splitting hairs are we?
Well it does matter because we're talking about a national anthem. One played at a public event that's unaffiliated with the government is quite different than one that is affiliated with the government.
IOW, it's a different case when we're arguing about how an Olympic athlete behaves (because they do represent the US) versus just about any other sporting scenario both pro and college.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 2:31 pm to FinleyStreet
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Having the national anthem played before a sporting event is actually kind of random if you think about it.
I can’t recall a single sporting event that I participated in that didn’t have an anthem played. Not random at all and not just a US phenomenon.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 2:36 pm to so_comfort
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With that being said, the compulsory nature of a forced display of patriotism goes against the very spirit of the freedoms the American flag represents. Ironic isn't it? Abridging a person's freedom of peaceful protest actively violates a main principle for which the compulsory activity professes to exalt.
While true it is pretty childish to protest against every perceived wrong in the country whether real or imaginary. To my knowledge there are no perfect countries...companies or people. We could go around protesting everything and pinning it on our country, when it isn't the country at all that is at fault.
Should we take a knee for high inflation rates? What comes next? Take a knee for open borders (For or against?)open borders? How about bad calls on the football field or basketball court?
People don't have to like everything that happens in this country. But the anthem, Pledge of Alleginace and flag do represent the men and women who have given their lives for this country, and it is considered disrespectful to those who lost their lives to not respect those things. Can you do it? Yes. Should you do it? Probably not.
We have clear cut ways in which we can bring change to things in this country that have been exercised and done throughout history. I've not seen one meaningful thing change from anybody taking a knee other than draw attention to themselves. Well....Colin Kaepernick has made a pretty good living from it. Other than that.....
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