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re: Did Clemson report an LSU player causing him to miss the 1H this Sat?

Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:23 pm to
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
13527 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:23 pm to
[img]Houston also never informed Haulcey[/img]

You can't really believe this.
Posted by Murph4HOF
A-T-L-A-N-T-A (that's where I stay)
Member since Sep 2019
17357 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:25 pm to
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it's what you'd expect -
very on brand
Posted by Gen Patton
Member since Dec 2009
1827 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:26 pm to
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He'd be stupid not to. Nothing bitchy about it, it's his job to give his team the best chances.


Probably leaked to Clemson from Houston, neither LSU nor Haulcy knew of the "upgraded" infraction until literally Wednesday/Thursday and nobody released anything to the public during the 9 intervening months after that BYU game
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
8961 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:28 pm to
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You can't really believe this.
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That's what's being reported.

Houston was terrible last year and did not go to a bowl. The ejection came Nov 30 during the last game. The letter cam later in December when the season was already over, school was out, and the athletes were home.

Haulcy also entered the transfer portal immediately after the season (and later removed himself). Houston could have been pissed at him at that point and not told him while her was in the portal. He later removed himself from the portal only to renter in April.

Now it could have just been an oversite by Houston and not intentional, but it is very plausible that he wasn't notified and it aligns with the official reporting from LSU.
This post was edited on 8/29/25 at 12:35 pm
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
39738 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:28 pm to
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Can you point to a precedent because the NCAA has a history of being pretty liberal when retroactively declaring a player ineligible and vacating wins.


Michigan just cheated to a national championship - no punishment.

Play chicken with the NCAA and they'll duck.
Posted by Gen Patton
Member since Dec 2009
1827 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:29 pm to
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Spears is good enough.


Former 5-star recruit with high ceiling, as long as our offense stays in the game and maybe even leads at half, we can plug Haulcy in for 2H and see what happens rest of the way
Posted by Bigbro24
Los Angeles
Member since Sep 2023
984 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:32 pm to
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have y'all in a PARLAY.


Why on earth? Lol may I ask
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
4782 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:35 pm to
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Michigan just cheated to a national championship - no punishment.

Play chicken with the NCAA and they'll duck.

Michigan did not play an ineligible player which strangely seems to be red line that the NCAA won't allow.

And the public relations disaster for the NCAA of vacating a national title a year an a half later after a long investigation is lot bigger deal than vacating one non conference game soon after. Having one win vacated is likely not going to move the dial for them so why not. It isn't like they are completely nullifying the result of one of the two biggest games of the year in NCAA sports.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
39738 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:36 pm to
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Former 5-star recruit with high ceiling, as long as our offense stays in the game and maybe even leads at half, we can plug Haulcy in for 2H and see what happens rest of the way


Yeah.

LSU should have been told about this. We could have spent the last couple weeks giving more 1st team reps to Spears.

It's just bullshite. It's ratty as frick on Willie Fritz and UH, and it's pussy as frick on Dabo and Clemson.

Probably cost UH millions after we canceled the 2027 game, so they can suck one.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
39738 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:37 pm to
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And the public relations disaster for the NCAA of vacating a national title


So basically, if you come at the NCAA hard enough they'll pussy out.

Thanks, that's what I said.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
37124 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:43 pm to
Appears LSU may think Houston did it intentionally, as another poster noted, the 2027 LSU-Houston kickoff game no longer appears on LSU’s schedule.

Good, frick those bitches

quote:

HOUSTON – The University of Houston Cougars and Louisiana State University Tigers will kick off the 2027 college football season in the latest installment of the Texas Kickoff at NRG Stadium in Houston. The Labor Day Weekend game will air on an ESPN network.
Posted by Gen Patton
Member since Dec 2009
1827 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:45 pm to
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The only way for LSU to have known about this would have been to FOIA Houston and force them to give up records. That needs to be addressed.


That assumes that they didn't act reasonably under the circumstances. Now I'm not BK, Corey Raymond, and Austin Thomas but those three guys are pretty damn good and competent at their jobs. Until yesterday, no record ANYWHERE reflected that the punishment was upgraded to fighting and 1H suspension, I didn't even know until yesterday that he had even been ejected from the final game of the season last year. All this really came to light Wednesday purportedly. My theory and I have no clue how recruiting in the portal works is, because this fight was so lightly reported at the time and recorded in the box score as simply ejected for unsportsmanlike, LSU operated under the premise pursuant to Haulcy's personal knowledge and public record that he wasn't in danger of 1H suspension Game 1 and assumably didn't think to FOIA Houston for anything contradicting that. Whether they acted reasonably in that regard would boil down to expert witnesses who operate in these departments.
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
4782 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:46 pm to
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So basically, if you come at the NCAA hard enough they'll pussy out.Thanks, that's what I said.


You said
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NCAA can't do that

So that really isn't what you said.

They can and will do it if they don't think it will be a massive black eye for their organization. They very recently vacated wins for Arizona State and Kentucky for playing ineligible players.

Vacating national title years after the fact, basically nullifying the entire football season, is not remotely close to vacating a single game that the CFP probably would look past if it came down to picking playoff. participants.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
39738 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:47 pm to
Best bet going forward would be to FOIA the former university of any transfer you take in, and make that University give you every single document that they have with that player's name on it.

That way, if something comes up later you can sue.
Posted by Afrojedi
Member since Jul 2017
583 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:47 pm to
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play an ineligible player which strangely seems to be red line that the NCAA won't allow


yeah, can confirm they arent big fans of that
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
39738 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:48 pm to
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Vacating national title years after the fact, basically nullifying the entire football season, is not remotely close to vacating a single game that the CFP probably would look past if it came down to picking playoff. participants.


What would happen if the NCAA vacated a championship?

What would the NCAA be scared of?
Posted by bamabaseballsec
Member since Dec 2020
3159 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:49 pm to
Dabo is a little bitch.

Dabo is a bama grad, player, coach, sec and national champ. Show some respect you nobody
Posted by GobyGator
Under the sea
Member since Jan 2013
371 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:49 pm to
He did the crime he has to pay the time. Simple solution moving forward is things like this should have to be put in the transfer portal database even after player transfers. Schools should check for it regularly. It should bot be up to the former school to inform new school it should be up to NCAA to inform player.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
21566 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:50 pm to
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Best bet going forward would be to FOIA the former university of any transfer you take in, and make that University give you every single document that they have with that player's name on it.

That way, if something comes up later you can sue.

Yes, stealing a school's player and introducing more litigation into the modern landscape of things. Sounds ideal for what is left of what was once the greatest sport on earth.

It is like buying a home. The buyer has to hire the home inspector. LSU failed to vet properly and are dealing with it. It is just a half, and they have depth. Things will be fine.
This post was edited on 8/29/25 at 12:53 pm
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
72531 posts
Posted on 8/29/25 at 12:53 pm to
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Why on earth? Lol may I ask


I wasn't allowed to pick my three games for this betting game I'm in. So I had to pick one or the other. The spread is pretty close. Clemson doesn't win big games anymore. LSU for a home opener is a big game. Clemson will choke.

That was my initial gut reaction when making the pick. I can still change it. But that's when I get myself into trouble. My results are much better over time with my initial choices, seems like whenever I switch one, my first pick wins. When I try to over-analyze and second guess the picks, that fricks me up with Lady Luck.
This post was edited on 8/29/25 at 12:57 pm
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