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re: Derrick Henry Combine updates... 4.52 40yd dash
Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:50 pm to Snizzzo
Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:50 pm to Snizzzo
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good-but-not-great Alabama RB
A lot of good-but-not-great college running backs break SEC records for TDs and Yards in a season in less carries than Herschel Walker, so yea probably.
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Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:51 pm to SummerOfGeorge
That was such a weak attempt. 
Dude is still crushed about the Beast ruining everything.
Dude is still crushed about the Beast ruining everything. Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:53 pm to JuiceTerry
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That was such a weak attempt.
Here comes the "Alabama's O-line is basically the Hogs of the 1980s" comeback.
This post was edited on 2/26/16 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:53 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Just seemed to have some big fumbles last year, but I guess those were outliers. Could also explain why they seem to never use him in the passing game. I am just trying to rationalize a man that big having such small hands
Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:54 pm to L S Usetheforce
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If Derrick Henry played DE right now and won the Heisman with those measurables he'd be a bonafide #1 pick overall, but he doesn't.
He probably wouldve made more $ long-term in NFL as a DE or OLB. That said, he got the Heisman and likely more endorsements as an RB, so he may end up making similar $ either way.
But he's got those measurables, so it's basically like asking people to tackle Von Miller. Doesn't sound like fun.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:54 pm to SummerOfGeorge
quote:I mean I dont know what you want normal rational people to say. Henrys accomplishments last year were phenomenal and once in a lifetime. However, myself, and most other people, dont believe he is that special of a back. I think he will be useful in the NFL but nothing spectacular
lot of good-but-not-great college running backs break SEC records for TDs and Yards in a season in less carries than Herschel Walker, so yea probably.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:54 pm to lsupride87
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Just seemed to have some big fumbles last year, but I guess those were outliers. Could also explain why they seem to never use him in the passing game. I am just trying to rationalize a man that big having such small hands
He had 1 or 2, but he was pretty good with the ball. Yeldon was the one who had fumbilitis. Just some awful fumbles.
Kiffin just doesn't do a whole lot of passing with the running backs, and when we had a specially designed running back pass play that did come up it was usually designed for Drake.
But yea, it is funny to see a guy so massive everywhere else have little bitty hands.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:55 pm to bamasgot13
quote:The weird thing is he seems extremely easy to tackle until he is 15+ yards downfield, then he becomes impossible to bring down. And Bama fans complained about that too......
But he's got those measurables, so it's basically like asking people to tackle Von Miller. Doesn't sound like fun.
This post was edited on 2/26/16 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:56 pm to lsupride87
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That explains the fumbles
You mean the total of 5 had in 619 career touches?
This post was edited on 2/26/16 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:57 pm to lsupride87
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However, myself, and most other people, dont believe he is that special of a back. I think he will be useful in the NFL but nothing spectacular
I mean I agree with the last part. The idea that isn't a "special back" though, I just don't get it. He was clearly a special college back.
Is he going to be a great, 10 year All-Pro NFL running back? No. Was he the greatest college running back of the last 20 years? No. Did he set a million records and do it in a talented, awesome way behind a decent but not great offensive line at a nice average yard per carry clip? Yes.
People just kind of treat him like some sort of system back that could have been swapped out for Brandon Wilds or Ralph Webb and they'd have the same numbers. It's just not true, at all.
This post was edited on 2/26/16 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:58 pm to lsupride87
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The weird thing is he seems extremely easy to tackle until he is 15+ yards downfield, then he becomes impossible to bring down. And Bama fans complained about that too......
That was a big issue his first two years, but I don't remember having much problem with that last year. The only times he went down behind the line or at the line are when he got swarmed because our offensive line blew an assignment or Dom Jackson got tossed on his arse (every 4th play, basically).
Posted on 2/26/16 at 1:59 pm to SummerOfGeorge
quote:I agree. No matter what he does in the pros, nobody can take way his accomplishments and feats he did in college.
People just kind of treat him like some sort of system back that could have been swapped out for Brandon Wilds or Ralph Webb and they'd have the same numbers. It's just not true, at all.
What I see with him is a guy that is impossible to bring down once he gets in the open field and has a head of steam, I mean impossible. But when he is in the backfield or just past the line of scrimmage, he seems a little upright and extremely easy to bring down. This seems more troublesome to me in the NFL then it is in college. He could prove me and everyone else wrong thoughPosted on 2/26/16 at 2:00 pm to JustGetItRight
Well he does have to get off steroids before combine
Posted on 2/26/16 at 2:01 pm to lsupride87
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What I see with him is a guy that is impossible to bring down once he gets in the open field and has a head of steam, I mean impossible. But when he is in the backfield or just past the line of scrimmage, he seems a little upright and extremely easy to bring down. This seems more troublesome to me in the NFL then it is in college.
Yep, I agree. It just feels like people want to take what they think will be problems at the NFL level (and may very well be) and then basically use that to say "just an average back" in college, which is just incredible silly.
A guy can be an incredible, special college player and then just be an average joe in the NFL.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 2:01 pm to Tuscaloosa
Height and weight?
Posted on 2/26/16 at 2:03 pm to SummerOfGeorge
quote:I agree completely. He is an all-timer in college no matter what happens going forward. I also would not mind seeing him succeed. He seems like a good humble kid to me
It just feels like people want to take what they think will be problems at the NFL level (and may very well be) and then basically use that to say "just an average back" in college, which is just incredible silly.
A guy can be an incredible, special college player and then just be an average joe in the NFL.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 2:04 pm to lsupride87
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I agree completely. He is an all-timer in college no matter what happens going forward. I also would not mind seeing him succeed. He seems like a good humble kid to me
Yep, he really is. Easy kid to root for. Fournette and Chubb seem very similar (with higher NFL ceilings). The SEC has had a run of some really solid kids holding their banner nationally the last few years.
This post was edited on 2/26/16 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 2/26/16 at 2:04 pm to Farmer1906
quote:6'2 5/8" and 247 lbs
Height and weight?
Posted on 2/26/16 at 2:11 pm to lsupride87
Will LF have the same short career in the NFL?
Posted on 2/26/16 at 2:14 pm to Herman Frisco
quote:I see a back that runs lower closer to the line of scrimmage that gets off tackles close to the line better than Henry does. He also at the same time is phenomenal in the open field. Most others see this as well. This is why he will be a top half the first round pick. Look, I am not bashing Henry. Just giving my reasoning of why I dont think he will be great in the NFL. I also never said he would have a short career
Will LF have the same short career in the NFL?
Follow my post in here. I have been extremely complimentary of Henry
This post was edited on 2/26/16 at 2:16 pm
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