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re: Derek Mason’s Daughter—Depression

Posted on 12/4/18 at 5:05 pm to
Posted by OliverQueen81
In The South
Member since Oct 2015
10494 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 5:05 pm to
I'm a sufferer too. Very good article. Thanks.
Posted by bingo
indy-freakin'-anna
Member since Sep 2008
4204 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 5:15 pm to
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I genuinely appreciate your perspective, Cheese Grits. But this isn’t a mind over matter deal—a condition that is alleviated by acknowledging that some people have a worse life than do you. It’s an issue of a chemical imbalance(s) of the brain. Dopamine, noradrenaline, serotonin, norepinephrine, genetics, environmental and social factors, and trauma, all play a role.


Great post!

This was one of the hardest things, as the parent of a depressed child, to understand. I did finally come to the realization that you cannot just buck up/get happy/man up/whatever rah rah stuff I tried.

Depression is a disease, can be debilitating, is not totally understood, is often just brushed aside as feeling blue or catagorized as "crazy"--there is not one easy answer or treatment for it. Everyone's depression is different and requires a unique approach as well as understanding, self education, support without judgement or advice & patience from friends/family.
Posted by OliverQueen81
In The South
Member since Oct 2015
10494 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 5:19 pm to
Great post. It's not easy, but therapy, medicine, and support help.
Posted by WV Sage
Ripley, WV
Member since Nov 2016
228 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 5:20 pm to
Very well written and gives one a lot to think about and be thankful for.....
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54621 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 5:22 pm to
I agree

#1 and #2 seem to affect the chemistry

As for #3 I learned that from a serious Bi Polar who spent time off and on in a locked care facility and that worked for them. As stated before, it was not a cure to professional care and medicine when needed but it seemed to help them in between. Not sure if it would have the same affect on others but it might which is why I suggested it.

Biggest thing is to avoid self medication via drugs or alcohol from what I have observed with them and others with clear issues they deal with.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16143 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 5:23 pm to
I used to hear people say they suffered from depression, and I thought less of them. In my mind you chose how your day went and that’s all there was to it. Then about 6 months ago I hit my head and was diagnosed as having a tbi. Soon after I found out what depression really was. Nothing could make me happy. And I mean absolutely nothing. I never told anyone in my family either. I honestly did not genuinely smile for about four months. And the dark thoughts and dark dreams were straight out of an Edgar Allen Poe poem. I still deal with it, but I’ve learned to handle it better. I feel so sorry for those suffering through it. May God be with all those who are.
This post was edited on 12/4/18 at 5:28 pm
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
23880 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 5:31 pm to
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Biggest thing is to avoid self medication via drugs or alcohol from what I have observed with them and others with clear issues they deal with


Truth.
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12350 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 5:41 pm to
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Mental illness is a serious issue that most kinda brush under the table.




Yes and still relatively under funded and access to care is still not great.
Posted by Rekrul
Member since Feb 2007
7944 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 5:47 pm to
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I am currently battling the worst case of depression I’ve ever had after losing my father, an aunt who died in my arms after a long illness, and a difficult divorce from the woman I thought was my soulmate for life, all in 18 months time.


My heart goes out to you brother, I went through an almost identical situation about 10 years ago. Had just separated and started the divorce process after a 14 year marriage, my father died, I lost my job, and my kids were 5 & 3 years old. I was deep in one hell of a depression, I know that dark feeling and thinking that there’s no way in hell it will ever get better. But it does eventually, time truly heals all wounds.

I was stubborn and just stuck it out with no help at all, I do not recommend that route. I’m great now as are my kids, but I probably put myself and them through months and months of unnecessary pain by not reaching out for support. You’re doing it the correct way, stay focused on getting the help you need and best of luck.
Posted by schmoo
marietta ga
Member since Jul 2017
1392 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 6:37 pm to
that is off limits, let it be
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22454 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 6:48 pm to
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Leave the feelings of stigmatization behind and know that we’re fighting our demons together.


Fight on brother!

Thanks for sharing this.
Posted by KingOfTheWorld
Member since Oct 2018
5365 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 7:00 pm to
Thanks to all who’ve responded to me in this thread. I’m not ashamed to say I fought back tears as I read them. This is the most I’ve shared with anyone about this other than the one therapy session. Silence, being ‘a man’ and trying to do it on your own is a losing battle. Clinical depresssion is a beast and it will kick the toughest man’s a**. I appreciate the encouragement and hope-giving thoughts. Great idea to sticky this though the holidays, btw.
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20193 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 7:01 pm to
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Anyway, I once made a promise to myself that whenever I came across a public discussion of depression, anxiety, and/or mental health, that I would speak out.
The illness attacks the person; it’s not something anyone does to encourage nor invite.
For any of you who may be reading this who feels like a lonely, isolated freak ... don’t.
Leave the feelings of stigmatization behind and know that we’re fighting our demons together.



Very good post...when I was 17 I was diagnosed with OCD. I had only the thoughts and no corresponding actions which they say make up approx 25% of those suffering and suffering it was.

Like you I had to triangulate my Psychologist, General Practitioner, and my mom who was my caregiver as a nurse who was really good about staying on top of medications and such. Fortunately the worst of my symptoms occurred over the summer going into my Senior year of High School. I was very fortunate with my treatment and recovery. I always gave myself something to look forward to every night to get me through the day hours. In my case it was my mom reading from Reader's Digest every night around 8pm. I fortunately made it through with intense therapy and counseling and as you I have reached out to others to help them and let them know there was hope on the other side of the wall.

Unfortunately my schooling suffered and I never recovered that part as it led into college. My attitude had been changed about many things and I was just glad to be alive honestly with a clear mind.

All I can say to those suffering is get your treatments, stay focused on properly medicating yourself, give yourself a point in time each day to do something you enjoy, and when you get better help others out. I have been fine, mostly, for nearly 30 years now. I owe so much of this improvement to my Doctors but also to my mom who passed away last year. I could never repay her for her help with my OCD in 1,000 lifetimes! If you are suffering and fortunate enough to have the help I did, thank the Lord every day and as I said, don't let your suffering go in vain as I can attest when I was dealing with this, it is so helpful to see others who have made it over the wall and that nudge your care gives them might be so much more valuable than you could ever imagine.

Best wishes to all of you who are battling and struggling!!!
This post was edited on 12/4/18 at 7:04 pm
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22454 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 7:04 pm to
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Clinical depresssion is a beast and it will kick the toughest man’s a**. I appreciate the encouragement and hope-giving thoughts.


It is an illness, and you are fighting it. Thoughts and prayers to you.

By sharing this, I am sure you are giving others courage and comfort.
Posted by KingOfTheWorld
Member since Oct 2018
5365 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 7:05 pm to
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My heart goes out to you brother, I went through an almost identical situation about 10 years ago. Had just separated and started the divorce process after a 14 year marriage, my father died, I lost my job, and my kids were 5 & 3 years old. I was deep in one hell of a depression, I know that dark feeling and thinking that there’s no way in hell it will ever get better. But it does eventually, time truly heals all wounds.


Thanks, my friend. Appreciate the encouragement. It means the world. I have hope.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64505 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 7:07 pm to
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I’ve previously shared on this website my daily battle with mental illness.
And that’s exactly what it is: a battle.
It took me years to finally reach a place where, triangulated by my General Practitioner, my Psychiatrist, and my therapist, we began to make some headway.

The insidious nature of clinical depression, social anxiey disorder, and a litany of other mental illnesses is that a sick person who’s at rock bottom has to be proactive enough with his mental health to take the excruciatingly private steps to do something about it.
Few actually do.

Anyway, I once made a promise to myself that whenever I came across a public discussion of depression, anxiety, and/or mental health, that I would speak out.
The illness attacks the person; it’s not something anyone does to encourage nor invite.
For any of you who may be reading this who feels like a lonely, isolated freak ... don’t.
Leave the feelings of stigmatization behind and know that we’re fighting our demons together.

Sorry about that missive, folks.
But this topic is near and dear to me.
Merry Christmas!

Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20193 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 7:10 pm to
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Silence, being ‘a man’ and trying to do it on your own is a losing battle. Clinical depresssion is a beast and it will kick the toughest man’s a**.


SO TRUE! The issue is don't try to "be a man" here, be a human...also a real man recognizes his needs of help when called for and he also realizes that there are others who love him and are counting on him greatly in most cases. It would be selfish to worry about some warped sense of pride, all that amounts to is being selfish to those who are counting on you...you need to be made whole to be the man you need to be.

I wish you all the best!!!
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64505 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 7:13 pm to
Dealt with these issues with my wife several months before our wedding. She lost her father to cancer when she was young and never truly grieved about it. Him not being there for our wedding, on top of her brother getting married the same year, on top of us being broke because I was starting out my career, on top of all the other normal stressful things that go on when planning a wedding, she just lost it She kept having episodes where she would blow up over the most insignificant inconveniences or problems in day-to-day life that were very easy to fix or weren't really even problems to begin with. It came very close to ruining our relationship because I truly felt helpless as to what to do. I begged her to go talk to someone because when she would act out like she did it was like she was a completely different person. Ultimately she had a pretty crazy panic attack and ended up in the hospital. Fortunately, that's where it ended. Once that happened, she finally obviously agreed to see a specialist, was prescribed some anti-anxiety meds and hasn't had an issue since. I think for the longest time her resistance was she thought it was her admitting she was crazy and people would look at her differently. I'm just thankful we were able to get through all of that and I certainly sympathize with anyone who is experiencing any mental health issues.
Posted by Rekrul
Member since Feb 2007
7944 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 7:18 pm to
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Thanks, my friend. Appreciate the encouragement. It means the world. I have hope.


You have the right attitude to make yourself happy, that’s what matters. I don’t mind at all talking if you want or think you need to, just drop an email address.
Posted by Peepdip
Member since Aug 2016
4946 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 7:43 pm to
There’s a lot of red necks here who believe depression is some sort of myth
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