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re: Delpit's description of the Targeting call.. and what's wrong
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:39 am to Jacknola
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:39 am to Jacknola
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Bull shite... look at the tape and he comes in late leads with head, slams helmet of receiver, clear case of targeting
How does one "come in late" when the receiver is still in the air?
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Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:42 am to Jacknola
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, he has a long history of it this year
No he doesnt dipshit.
He was called for one in the Bama game and it was overturned for the same reason this one should have been, the receiver turned into the hit.
If the receiver doesnt tuck his head as he is coming down then he hits him in the midsection and not the helmet.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:47 am to Jacknola
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Furthermore, he has a long history of it this year
You are confusing our game with Mizzou. Even your own fanbase pointed it out to you in another thread a few days ago.
I have come to suspect you are slightly unstable.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:47 am to honeybadger07
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. The guy that hit burrow who was not even in the play had complete control of his trajectory and how he would initiate contact which he did in the neck area
Head or neck area can be argued but what cant be is Burrow was by definition of the rule a defenseless player and the UCF lineman clearly launched by the rule. In the replay you can clearly see him come from a lower position and launch himself up. By those 2 definitions it is targeting and should have been ruled as such.
Look my issue is how the rule is applied subjectively. There were many hits that got players ejected in one game but nearly identical hits or some worse that drew no flag or was overturned.
There is no consistency. Officials waiting has been poor for nearly every game this season whether it was SEC or Big 12, hell even in the NFL and year in and year out it is getting worse
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:47 am to TigerDat
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TigerDat
A single ejection in 26 games played is clearly a pattern. How do you not see it?
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:48 am to ksrph
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I agree with the fact that he wasn’t trying to hit him in the head, but, he led with his helmet. Plain and simple.
Orgeron appeared to be telling him to wrap up. If he had been concentrating on tackling and not hitting the receiver with his helmet, probably doesn’t get called.
I actually agree with this... it boils down to technique. Consistently applying the correct technique will solve alot of these type of calls.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:48 am to RB10
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A single ejection in 26 games played is clearly a pattern. How do you not see it
Your right, those pesky purple and gold glasses are clouding my vision, maybe I need some crimson ones to see the light.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:51 am to klrstix
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, he led with his helmet
This phrase always bothered me because technically you always lead with your head. It's the first part of the body to get to someone on 99% of tackles.
There are helmet to helmet collisions in most plays. Alot of times initiated by a rb but those are ok?
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:53 am to JohnnyU
Add one word to the rule will help a lot. "INTENT"
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:53 am to the808bass
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They should make this more subjective.
I would argue it is already too subjective.
Some things get called for targeting while others do not.
A rule is supposed to be consistent.
Nothing about this one is, in my view.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:53 am to Jacknola
quote:You're such an idiot.
No arsehole, you and your whining friends put too much cry baby paranoia in your morning gumbo.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:55 am to shinerfan
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There's no doubt these rules diminish the game from what it was but how many former players walk like old men at 45? I think American football is probably a dying sport.
Our society is full of Soy boys and Almond Milk
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:56 am to GobyGator
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Add one word to the rule will help a lot. "INTENT"
I disagree, are we now going to rely on officials to be mind readers and determine whether a player meant to do it or not?
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:44 am to the808bass
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he led with his helmet.
I'm always confused by this. Players are taught to, if they are hitting, as opposed to a wrap up tackle, lead with their shoulders. The head, last time I checked, is between the shoulders. I don't know how you can try to put a shoulder into an offensive player and not in a sense lead with your helmet. Intent clearly has to be brought into this, as should be the movement of the offensive player into the oncoming defender's helmet. Keep the 15 yard penalty, but kicking a defender out for doing it correctly and being the victim of bad circumstances is just wrong.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:48 am to JohnnyU
I don't think most people realize just how fast things move out on the field. The refs do a pretty good job overall with the calls, but the opportunity is there to mess up bigly.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:50 am to DawgsLife
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don't think most people realize just how fast things move out on the field. The refs do a pretty good job overall with the calls, but the opportunity is there to mess up bigly
That's fine but that's why there are replay officials. When they get it wrong too then what's the excuse?
Posted on 1/3/19 at 12:12 pm to Jacknola
quote:Next time, before spending half an hour typing out so much worthless drivel, save us all the trouble and instead just go frick yourself.
Jacknola
Posted on 1/3/19 at 12:13 pm to JohnnyU
It's simply a rule to take star defenders out of games to help who they want to win. It doesn't matter what the rulebook states. If they want someone out they will call it and pass who they want in.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 12:18 pm to memphisplaya
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I have come to suspect you are slightly unstable.
He's from New Orleans and is an Alabama fan. It's unhealthy how much LSU triggers him
Posted on 1/3/19 at 12:20 pm to TigerDat
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That's fine but that's why there are replay officials. When they get it wrong too then what's the excuse?
The problem is the rule is structured in a way that puts the burden to prove a hit was not targeting. The rule, in so many words, says that if there is a question, then it's targeting.
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