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re: Delpit's description of the Targeting call.. and what's wrong
Posted on 1/3/19 at 12:22 pm to shinerfan
Posted on 1/3/19 at 12:22 pm to shinerfan
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There's no doubt these rules diminish the game from what it was but how many former players walk like old men at 45? I think American football is probably a dying sport.
I played 4 years of CFB, started 3 at RB. yeah, I know CSB
Anyway, I'm 42 and still play BREC basketball and flag football and can cross over a 25 year old. I've been beat up and had a couple of concussions. I'll walk like an old man when I'm an old man. I take care of my body. Some people dont. I am totally fine. Cut the sissy talk. American football is America. GTFO
ETA, I know 45 year old who never played who can barely walk, because they dont take care of themselves. So again, GTFO
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Posted on 1/3/19 at 12:23 pm to JohnnyU
The entire rule needs to be revisited. I don't know what the real answer is, but as it stands right now it's to subjective and entirely unfair.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 12:27 pm to Agforlife
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but as it stands right now it's to subjective and entirely unfair.
The subjectivity of the rule isn’t the problem. The subjectivity in how it’s applied could be part of the problem. I’d argue (still) that it’s not subjective enough.
Delpit’s hit fit the letter of the law definition. So the subjectiveness of the call wasn’t the problem there. The opposite.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 12:31 pm to the808bass
the biggest problem is the punishment that follows the rule, not the rule itself. If the rule is for player safety, there aren't many ways to write that rule to remove all subjectivity from it. The problem lies in how the rule is implemented. And honestly, it's a pretty easy fix. For a non-malicious targeting, 15 yard penalty, no ejection. If you get two in one game, you're gone. For egregious targeting with malicious intent, ejection would be appropriate. Basically, just take the flagrant 1 and flagrant 2 in basketball or yellow/red cards in soccer and apply it to the targeting rule in football. I have no problem with a 15 yard penalty, but ejecting someone for incidental contact because it fits under the guidelines of the rule is ridiculous.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 12:35 pm to lsufball19
I can dig it.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 12:39 pm to the808bass
I agree the rule should be more subjective. Did he lower his head and lead with the crown of his helmet or did he tackle with his eyes up?
Posted on 1/3/19 at 12:59 pm to the808bass
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You have too much Bama in you.
He is Harvey Updyke and cajunbama is his bastard some with Phyllis from Mulga
Posted on 1/3/19 at 1:17 pm to lsufball19
Yea to me that doesn’t deserve ejection. That’s like a halfway targeting. Hits with crown of helmet but his eyes are still up so I don’t think he was intentionally leading with it.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 1:19 pm to SXV
Not to mention, the guy was jumping to catch a ball. When Delpit committed to the tackle, his target point was the guy's waist. Then, right before he gets there, another LSu defender flips the player, and his head meets Delpit's. I just don't see how you can eject a player for something that was largely unavoidable absent Delpit diving to the ground and giving up on the play completely.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 1:38 pm to ksrph
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but, he led with his helmet. Plain and simple.
Most of the time the helmet is on the head and goes first on a tackle. So yes I think he lead with his helmet. I would love to see some tackles made with both feet.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 1:41 pm to lsufball19
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his target point was the guy's waist
He was NEVER going to hit his waist.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 1:53 pm to WylieTiger
If they are gonna start kicking players out just for leading with the helmet, lots if players lead with their helmet. About 50% of all tacklers lead helmet first. Know why, the helmet is the closest point to the opposing player.
Black and White rule, it was targeting. Has to be some gray and I thought intent.
Intent. Now's an example of intent. The DL hit on Burrow. Same with the wr on Mack Wilson. Both were intentional "knockout blows" that warrant ejection more than most called targeting calls. Those type hits are more dangerous and intentional than the average targeting call. Most targeting calls are incidental helmet time helmet contact. Player safety huh?
Black and White rule, it was targeting. Has to be some gray and I thought intent.
Intent. Now's an example of intent. The DL hit on Burrow. Same with the wr on Mack Wilson. Both were intentional "knockout blows" that warrant ejection more than most called targeting calls. Those type hits are more dangerous and intentional than the average targeting call. Most targeting calls are incidental helmet time helmet contact. Player safety huh?
Posted on 1/3/19 at 2:01 pm to pvilleguru
quote:If the other DB doesn't alter him, Delpit would have hit him with his shoulder in the WR's lower chest area.
He was NEVER going to hit his waist.
But the receiver fell backwards, lining his helmet with Delpit.
Delpit had no chance on that play, other than to never try to tackle him.
The refs were right to eject, as it is consistent with the rule. . .but the rule needs some changing.
Keep everything as is, but make ejection subjective with regards to perceived intent?
This post was edited on 1/3/19 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 1/3/19 at 2:26 pm to lsufball19
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He's from New Orleans and is an Alabama fan. It's unhealthy how much LSU triggers him
It's almost a 100% certainty that he's been an Alabama fans since about 2008.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 6:45 pm to Jacknola
quote:I agree with you. If Jrv2damac has not followed through, he should be banned for getting everyone's hopes up.
You fool, you must be insane to publically threaten to kill someone over a chat board post. What the hell is the matter with you?
Where are the mods for this guy?
Posted on 1/4/19 at 8:48 pm to Jacknola
Didn't say I was going to
It just wouldn't bother me if someone else did
It just wouldn't bother me if someone else did
Posted on 1/4/19 at 9:14 pm to Jrv2damac
Might be difficult to do seeing he is a big war hero
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