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David Hale (ESPN) with NIL Agent talking figures

Posted on 5/24/22 at 3:53 pm
Posted by adambomb
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 3:53 pm
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"We ended up bringing in a number of them -- Bo Nix being one of them. Bo was paid $500 or $600 a week, and it was like an $8,000-$9,000 deal for the semester. It was probably more than what should have been paid, but nothing crazy.”


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When I called Texas A&M, I spoke to an agent representing 3 or 4 of their players, incl 1 coming in that was a highly recruited kid. When I offered him this deal, he said, 'We are getting $5K/wk to do a 2-min radio spot on an alumni's radio station in College Station.”


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“That's when the light bulb went off in my head that this is going to change very quickly, bc if kids are getting paid $50-$100K to do radio spots on some radio station in College Station, that's a joke, right? They weren't interested because their market is $5,000.”
Posted by GambitAUfan
Member since Nov 2010
2846 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 3:56 pm to
Damn we need to really up our NIL game
Posted by SaturdayNAthens
Georgia
Member since Dec 2017
10871 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 3:59 pm to
We all do. If this is allowed to continue it’s going to be nonstop bidding
This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 3:59 pm
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42557 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:00 pm to
That may make you mad. But there is nothing illegal for one adult to pay another adult 5k/week to speak on his program. Politicians, and other public speakers do this all the time. Try and book one.
Posted by Texas Gentleman
Texas
Member since Sep 2015
2617 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:01 pm to
5k per week is only 260k a year, but other sources said it was a mil per recruit, 25-30 million total for the class. Somebody on the internet is lying!!!!
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
19911 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:03 pm to
The system sucks.

Until they fix it, though, you play by the rules that exist.

Stand in principle all you want, but it’s like pissing yourself while wearing dark pants. Makes you feel warm for a minute, but all you end up with is something nobody wants.
Posted by SaturdayNAthens
Georgia
Member since Dec 2017
10871 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:04 pm to
There is something wrong with this. When a school uses promises of NIL or other means of payment to get recruits to sign its against NCAA rules. A&M is going to learn this soon enough
Posted by adambomb
Member since Dec 2014
1462 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:05 pm to
I’m not quite a mathematician, but 260k x 4 year commitment Is over 1 million dollars. Unless you’re implying that they stop paying this after year 1, meaning it was a pay for play deal?
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:05 pm to
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42557 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:05 pm to
What is wrong with the situation posted in the OT?
Posted by tigahdor
Member since Feb 2022
58 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:09 pm to
Not to mention, they could have more than one deal..
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
123586 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:10 pm to
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5k per week is only 260k a year, but other sources said it was a mil per recruit


Which is still fricking stupid.
Posted by Texaggie96
Member since Dec 2018
1381 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:12 pm to
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There is something wrong with this. When a school uses promises of NIL or other means of payment to get recruits to sign its against NCAA rules. A&M is going to learn this soon enough


Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:12 pm to
It's not your money or mine.

Posted by Blackgloves
Texas
Member since Aug 2021
3776 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:13 pm to
But that's "cheating"
Posted by Windy City
Member since Jun 2019
1708 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:13 pm to
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That may make you mad. But there is nothing illegal for one adult to pay another adult 5k/week to speak on his program. Politicians, and other public speakers do this all the time. Try and book one.


Much much more than that if you are a real deal influencer. Ex-Presidents earn $400K per speech for roughly an hour of their time at a private event. Top tiers musicians or actors get paid over $1 Million for showing up for a few hours at an event.

I think the average joe lamenting that young men don't appreciate room and board is missing the larger picture.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42557 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:17 pm to
I know. I was trying to keep it basic for the simpletons. Even if you made it illegal, there is no way to enforce this. Bama has done this for years. Now they are mad someone can and is doing it better. I am loving every second of this.
Posted by ReversePiggie
In non-Arkansas US
Member since Sep 2021
3582 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:17 pm to
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When a school uses promises of NIL or other means of payment to get recruits to sign its against NCAA rules.

That's certainly the way it was positioned at the beginning, but let's be honest about what it is in reality today.

How many NIL deals are national endorsement deals or even transferable? The vast majority are money coming from boosters, who may be tapping into their company coffers to give a kid a Lambo or do radio ads that pay exponentially above scale.

It's 100% tied to gettinga specific kid to go to a specific school by throwing bags of cash at them. We can keep repeating the mantra about what they said it was supposed to be or jump in feet first.

Up until now, the entire country looked the other way as teams cheated and paid players anyway on their way to buying championships. How is this ANY different?
Posted by AUdime
Member since Oct 2012
777 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:24 pm to
There's no way that kind of money being shelled out, with 0 monetary ROI to the payer, is sustainable. I know some of these boosters are super rich, but it's a complete net negative. You can't even write this stuff off on your taxes.
Posted by Texaggie96
Member since Dec 2018
1381 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:27 pm to
quote:

That's certainly the way it was positioned at the beginning, but let's be honest about what it is in reality today. How many NIL deals are national endorsement deals or even transferable? The vast majority are money coming from boosters, who may be tapping into their company coffers to give a kid a Lambo or do radio ads that pay exponentially above scale. It's 100% tied to gettinga specific kid to go to a specific school by throwing bags of cash at them. We can keep repeating the mantra about what they said it was supposed to be or jump in feet first. Up until now, the entire country looked the other way as teams cheated and paid players anyway on their way to buying championships. How is this ANY different?

Pretty much hit the nail on the head.

The reality is most advertising (sans national companies) is localized and specific to the area or target audience endorsing the product.

BMW of Tuscaloosa isn't giving Bryce Young an NIL deal if he's the quarterback at Tennessee, and you can be certain there's a clause in that contract that allows them to terminate the contract at whim on a yearly/quarterly basis to deal with if he "transfers".
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