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Posted on 6/24/22 at 12:34 am to BoarEd
Posted on 6/24/22 at 12:34 am to BoarEd
I don’t know. He lost a title when 3 players went for a foul ball. Just so much at play in winning it all. He knows the path to Omaha. You can’t win it if you can’t get there. He is a great coach. And he isn’t done.
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Posted on 6/24/22 at 12:34 am to Drewbie
When the reason that you're not winning titles is because you can't manage a tournament bracket without making a critical error in roster management - all the while getting the built in excuse that the reason you don't win conference titles is because you're managing for the big dance - yeah, it should be a topic of consideration. It's been two fricking decades now, man, and he has exactly one conference title to show for it.
It would be one thing maybe if he consistently won the SEC, but if you're going to tell people that the SEC doesn't matter because the goal is the ring, well, at some point you need to deliver.
Saying that Van Horn needs to go isn't a knock on him as a coach. He's terrific. It's saying that Arkansas is in a position to upgrade and should do so. Feelings about Van Horn aside.
A very similar situation to Anderson.
It would be one thing maybe if he consistently won the SEC, but if you're going to tell people that the SEC doesn't matter because the goal is the ring, well, at some point you need to deliver.
Saying that Van Horn needs to go isn't a knock on him as a coach. He's terrific. It's saying that Arkansas is in a position to upgrade and should do so. Feelings about Van Horn aside.
A very similar situation to Anderson.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 12:35 am to Rebbedup
quote:It's become trendy to start talking about DVH like he's 82 years old.
And he isn’t done.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 12:36 am to BoarEd
quote:Anderson completely missed the tournament half the time he was here.
A very similar situation to Anderson.
Y'all have lost the damn plot.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 12:36 am to TheCheshireHog
I can assure you that is not true.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 12:37 am to BoarEd
quote:I can say with confidence there are a few national title winning coaches I would take DVH over. There aren’t many coaches out there you’re going to get that would be better than him. I think the only coaches in the SEC that are better than him are Corbin and O’Sullivan.
Saying that Van Horn needs to go isn't a knock on him as a coach. He's terrific. It's saying that Arkansas is in a position to upgrade and should do so. Feelings about Van Horn aside.
He and Bianco are almost mirrors of each other. He just has made it to Omaha more times.
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 12:38 am
Posted on 6/24/22 at 12:40 am to Drewbie
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Anderson completely missed the tournament half the time he was here.
Y'all have lost the damn plot.
You're either missing the plot deliberately, or you aren't reading carefully.
Van Horn isn't going to win the title. He has been here for a very long time and has a track record of getting close, but not getting it done. And he never will.
It is my opinion that the program is in a position to upgrade, as it was when they decided to replace Anderson. And they should do so. Even though, like with Anderson, it would upset many.
Again, as I said though, I also understand that they won't do this. The fact that you guys continue to make an issue of it is mystifying. I can have my opinions too, man. And it shouldn't be grounds for argument.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 12:44 am to BoarEd
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I can have my opinions too, man.
quote:This is not stating an opinion. This is you projecting frustration as fact.
Van Horn isn't going to win the title. He has been here for a very long time and has a track record of getting close, but not getting it done. And he never will.
If Hunter ran our sports like y'all wanted we'd be mirroring Texas in a never ending revolving door of coaches.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 12:44 am to BoarEd
I’m still waiting to hear who you would get that’s an upgrade.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 12:48 am to Drewbie
Nope. He has had a long enough track record of doing exactly what just happened to safely project that he won't get it done in his lifetime. Not in his working lifetime anyways.
I saw one rationale that said something to the effect of, "yeah, but his recruiting is good." Sure it is. But his recruiting has been good for a long time. And what it results is a team that never wins the SEC and regularly makes it deep into the big tournament before bowing out because Van Horn outsmarts himself.
Again, why is it so hard for you to accept that someone has a different opinion than you?
It's my opinion that he will continue to do what he has done for two goddamn decades now and that Arkansas should look to replace him.
I saw one rationale that said something to the effect of, "yeah, but his recruiting is good." Sure it is. But his recruiting has been good for a long time. And what it results is a team that never wins the SEC and regularly makes it deep into the big tournament before bowing out because Van Horn outsmarts himself.
Again, why is it so hard for you to accept that someone has a different opinion than you?
It's my opinion that he will continue to do what he has done for two goddamn decades now and that Arkansas should look to replace him.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 12:48 am to Drewbie
The paragraph you quoted is
Opinion
Fact
Probable conclusion based on data present
Like Bill Buckner people forget a game was played after the error that actually decided the series.
Opinion
Fact
Probable conclusion based on data present
Like Bill Buckner people forget a game was played after the error that actually decided the series.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 12:49 am to BoarEd
What did DVH do wrong in 2018?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 12:49 am to TheCheshireHog
Likewise you can't prove we couldn't upgrade.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 12:50 am to TheCheshireHog
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I’m still waiting to hear who you would get that’s an upgrade.
As Dale said, pretty much anyone they want. This is 100% of the time the "argument" people toss out when someone suggests replacing a coach.
That's what we pay Yurachek to do and he's damn good at his job.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 12:57 am to BoarEd
So we can’t name a name. Got it.
Just an FYI, that’s when you know there’s no guarantee of an actual upgrade out there.
Just an FYI, that’s when you know there’s no guarantee of an actual upgrade out there.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 12:58 am to TheCheshireHog
quote:It's legitimately like talking to Texas fans. All bluster and entitlement without the foggiest hint of logic or reason.
So we can’t name a name. Got it.
Just an FYI, that’s when you know there’s no guarantee of an actual upgrade out there.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 1:00 am to Drewbie
Speaking of that, I still have no clue why they think Sark is better than Herman 
Posted on 6/24/22 at 1:00 am to TheCheshireHog
I'm tired of just getting to Omaha. I don't know exactly what that means, but I'm tired of just getting there. I just want one GD natty in my lifetime. Just one. I don't think that's too much to ask for.
The fricking life of a hog fan.
We have insane fan support, top notch facilities, great recruiting classes, are highly rated throughout the season, but we always shite the fricking mattress come nut cutting time.
The fricking life of a hog fan.
We have insane fan support, top notch facilities, great recruiting classes, are highly rated throughout the season, but we always shite the fricking mattress come nut cutting time.
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 1:03 am
Posted on 6/24/22 at 1:03 am to Arkapigdiesel
Y’all won a basketball title in the 90s. How old are you?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 1:04 am to Henry Jones Jr
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Y’all won a basketball title in the 90s. How old are you?
I'm talking baseball.
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