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re: Dave Van Horn

Posted on 6/24/22 at 12:14 am to
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 6/24/22 at 12:14 am to
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Because of this the administration would go after someone with ties to the program that can keep those tickets be sold and donations flowing because next year is definitely the year.



Explain the Musselman hire.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68418 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 12:15 am to
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I'm 100% serious. He has had a long time and is a terrific coach, but he won't ever win a title. Right now Arkansas is in a position to attract any coach they want for the most part and an AD that can upgrade from Van Horn. This isn't to say I don't think Van Horn is a great coach and I love what he has done for our program, but I think it's time to move on.
This is literally us talking about Bianco two weeks ago
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42344 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 12:18 am to
People dont show up to watch losing football and basketball.

Baseball is different. Different levels of expectations. It's the WMS level of the fanbase, just being there is more than enough. Nothing like a game at baum nowatimsayin'
Posted by Torqued Pork
Malvern
Member since Sep 2020
3583 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 12:18 am to
DVH will never be canned as long as we're competitive, but it's time that even his biggest cheerleaders admit he's probably going to go down as one of the winningest coaches to never have won it all.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
40851 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 12:20 am to
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I'm 100% serious. He has had a long time and is a terrific coach, but he won't ever win a title.


He’s Carson Shaddy not being a dumbass away from having that title. That wasn’t on him and he should absolutely have one right now.

In the past four seasons, we’ve been to Omaha three times finishing 2nd and 3rd in two of them. He’s absolutely elevated our program in the last 5 years versus the previous 15. Why would we honestly think he can’t get it done with the way recruiting is going?

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Right now Arkansas is in a position to attract any coach they want for the most part and an AD that can upgrade from Van Horn.


Who is actually attainable that would be an upgrade from DVH?
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 12:21 am to
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This is literally us talking about Bianco two weeks ago


I realize that. And Van Horn was one dropped foul away from a title. But it's been a long damn time and he has had several cracks at it. As someone else said, the decision to not start McEntire was inexplicable. There is no excuse for it. In the second game he was frickin' dealing. And he was ready to go for the first.

It makes no sense and if it weren't for the fact that I know he was just being cute, I would suspect he tanked his team deliberately.

He won't ever win it. He just won't. And right now our program is in a position to upgrade.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 12:23 am to
He won't ever win it. It's my opinion we should replace him, but I realize we won't.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42344 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 12:23 am to
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Who is actually attainable that would be an upgrade from DVH


Who isn't attainable? Arkansas over pays for the sport.

Hunter is the one who should be asked, he is paid the big bucks to have the answer to your question.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68418 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 12:24 am to
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Who is actually attainable that would be an upgrade from DVH
I honestly think with y’all’s resources that Dan McDonnel would be better.

But he’s coming to Oxford when Bianco retires so you Babylonian whores stay away from him!
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
40851 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 12:25 am to
No one actually has an answer for who you would get that would be guaranteed as better than DVH. We need to fire him just because.
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 12:31 am
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68418 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 12:28 am to
I get the frustration they have. It would be one thing if he wasn’t making it to Omaha but he consistently makes it there and is one dropped fly ball away from a title. Until he stops getting y’all to Omaha, I don’t think he should be shown the door either.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42344 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 12:28 am to
Hey when I asked that question an answer wasn't given or said to be deserved.

I understand your point, but that doesn't mean we all pretend we couldn't do better.

Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
57595 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 12:28 am to
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We need to fire him just because.
The fact that this is even a conversation after Omaha trips 3 of the last 4 years just shows how out of touch some of the fanbase is. They talk as if we're Alabama football and should just walk into titles. Only two teams in the country had a better year than us this year and we're hearing about how we should find a better coach. Spoiled beyond belief.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 12:29 am to
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Until he stops getting y’all to Omaha, I don’t think he should be shown the door either.



He won't be. But he should be.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68418 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 12:31 am to
What was Arkansas baseball like before he got to Fayetteville? Was it always decent or was it a total build from the ground up like Bianco at Ole Miss?
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 12:32 am
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42344 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 12:31 am to
There is a group here convinced DVH should decide when he done here.

That's the problem, thats how guys like Houston Nutt hang around for a decade here and no longer than 4 years anywhere else.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42344 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 12:33 am to
DeBriyne had more conference titles and an equal number of second place finishes.

He built the program from nothing and left DVH one of two teams he's had that has won the SEC.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
57595 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 12:33 am to
Comparing DVH to Houston Nutt is short bus worthy.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68418 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 12:33 am to
Well to be fair to y’all, Nutt literally tried to sabotage our program after he didn’t get the facilities he was promised after his second season. That’s why he didn’t last much longer.

Also, Van Horn has y’all consistently finishing in the top 10 and top 5. That not mediocre like Nutt
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 12:34 am
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
40851 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 12:34 am to
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That's the problem, thats how guys like Houston Nutt hang around for a decade here and no longer than 4 years anywhere else.


Stop comparing Nutt to DVH. No one in the SEC would take Nutt if their current coach left. Every single team in this conference would take DVH if their current coach left tomorrow. They are not the same.
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