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re: Dabo has passed Bowden as the best ACC coach ever
Posted on 1/18/19 at 7:23 pm to John Milner
Posted on 1/18/19 at 7:23 pm to John Milner
i have no control over what the building is named. i don't care either way. you don't either. lol
i've proposed naming it Watson-Renfrow Hall. i'm sure Bama fans can get behind it. Or how about Lawrence-Ross Hall.
this will promote racial unity
i've proposed naming it Watson-Renfrow Hall. i'm sure Bama fans can get behind it. Or how about Lawrence-Ross Hall.
this will promote racial unity
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Posted on 1/18/19 at 7:24 pm to Tillman
quote:
i have no control over what the building is named.
You could change the name, but you don't.
"i don't care"
and there you have it
This post was edited on 1/18/19 at 7:26 pm
Posted on 1/18/19 at 7:24 pm to John Milner
a building can't be racist, race baiter.
the shape of tillman the building is basically an alternative logo for Clemson. i like the building and clock tower buildings in general.
the shape of tillman the building is basically an alternative logo for Clemson. i like the building and clock tower buildings in general.
This post was edited on 1/18/19 at 7:27 pm
Posted on 1/18/19 at 7:27 pm to John Milner
only the board of trustees can change it
Posted on 1/18/19 at 7:29 pm to Tillman
i would like for it to be changed as a social experiment to see if the racebaiters are satisfied. i predict they would not be.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 7:31 pm to Tillman
Ben Tillman's shameful legacy is now Clemson's
Clemson didn't honor him with a building in his name until 1946, nearly three decades after the man known as "Pitchfork" Ben Tillman died and 54 years after the structure was built.
At the time, Clemson's leaders knew exactly what they were doing. Not only was Tillman a former South Carolina governor and a former U.S. Senator, the one-time "officer" in the paramilitary group known as the Red Shirts spoke fondly of his murderous past, often celebrating his lead role in the slaughter of several African-American men — some militia members, others National Guardsmen — at the 1876 Hamburg Massacre. He also famously bragged about assassinating an African-American state legislator. Clearly, Tillman was proud of his role as a villain. Sadly, this knowledge did not dissuade Clemson from honoring a clearly dishonorable man in the days after the Second World War.
the Clemson board decided that the Tillman's name would remain on the university's most prominent building. Board chairman David Wilkins — a former speaker of the S.C. House and U.S. ambassador — issued a statement, one that was both tone deaf and hypocritical.
Clemson didn't honor him with a building in his name until 1946, nearly three decades after the man known as "Pitchfork" Ben Tillman died and 54 years after the structure was built.
At the time, Clemson's leaders knew exactly what they were doing. Not only was Tillman a former South Carolina governor and a former U.S. Senator, the one-time "officer" in the paramilitary group known as the Red Shirts spoke fondly of his murderous past, often celebrating his lead role in the slaughter of several African-American men — some militia members, others National Guardsmen — at the 1876 Hamburg Massacre. He also famously bragged about assassinating an African-American state legislator. Clearly, Tillman was proud of his role as a villain. Sadly, this knowledge did not dissuade Clemson from honoring a clearly dishonorable man in the days after the Second World War.
the Clemson board decided that the Tillman's name would remain on the university's most prominent building. Board chairman David Wilkins — a former speaker of the S.C. House and U.S. ambassador — issued a statement, one that was both tone deaf and hypocritical.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 9:06 pm to John Milner
it was Democrats who changed the building name to Tillman.
i'm a Republican.
i think the majority of the board of trustees are Democrats. colleges are generally run by far left people these days.
i'm a Republican.
i think the majority of the board of trustees are Democrats. colleges are generally run by far left people these days.
This post was edited on 1/18/19 at 9:09 pm
Posted on 1/18/19 at 9:18 pm to Tillman
some people say Bear Bryant was a racist
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i've never heard any clemson students/grads/fans talking up Tillman the person. i've heard alabama fans gush over bear bryant.
when i wast at clemson in late 90s, i had no idea who tillman was. i assumed he was a dean or something at clemson.
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i've never heard any clemson students/grads/fans talking up Tillman the person. i've heard alabama fans gush over bear bryant.
when i wast at clemson in late 90s, i had no idea who tillman was. i assumed he was a dean or something at clemson.
This post was edited on 1/18/19 at 9:19 pm
Posted on 1/18/19 at 9:22 pm to Tillman
Benjamin Tillman was a white supremacist that opposed Civil rights.
Paul Bryant ended segregation for Alabama athletics.
Paul Bryant ended segregation for Alabama athletics.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 9:23 pm to CapstoneGrad06
he may have ended it when he saw alabama couldn't win without black players.
lol
only reason fans of Clemson's rivals talk about tillman is to do negative recruiting against clemson.
SC has been doing it for years but Clemson's recruiting has trended up.
lol
only reason fans of Clemson's rivals talk about tillman is to do negative recruiting against clemson.
SC has been doing it for years but Clemson's recruiting has trended up.
This post was edited on 1/18/19 at 9:25 pm
Posted on 1/18/19 at 9:24 pm to Tillman
Careful. Bryant has ties to all of your championship coaches.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 9:25 pm to CapstoneGrad06
nobody would have heard of the coaches at clemson if clemson had not made them head coaches.
clemson made them, not alabama.
alabama fired dabo like a dog...clemson saw his greatness.
Dabo would probably have failed at any place but Clemson.
Why? B/c Clemson is a magical place.
clemson made them, not alabama.
alabama fired dabo like a dog...clemson saw his greatness.
Dabo would probably have failed at any place but Clemson.
Why? B/c Clemson is a magical place.
This post was edited on 1/18/19 at 9:29 pm
Posted on 1/18/19 at 9:28 pm to Tillman
Alabama fired Dubose. Not Dabo.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 9:29 pm to CapstoneGrad06
dabo lost his job at alabama. he was basically a waterboy at that point.
if Dabo learned football at alabama, why does Clemson look so different on offense than Alabama.
alabama basically never loses to teams that have offenses similar to alabama.
if Dabo learned football at alabama, why does Clemson look so different on offense than Alabama.
alabama basically never loses to teams that have offenses similar to alabama.
This post was edited on 1/18/19 at 9:35 pm
Posted on 1/18/19 at 10:59 pm to MOJO_RISER
Danny
fricking
Ford
Wow
fricking
Ford
Wow
Posted on 1/18/19 at 11:07 pm to Dandy Lion
A case could be made Ford hurt the Clemson program long term.
If we got to give Bama credit for Ford's success at Clemson, we also got to give Bama credit for the NCAA violations that happened during the Ford era.
If we got to give Bama credit for Ford's success at Clemson, we also got to give Bama credit for the NCAA violations that happened during the Ford era.
This post was edited on 1/18/19 at 11:09 pm
Posted on 1/19/19 at 9:36 am to BIGFOOD
NO !!! 
Posted on 1/19/19 at 9:42 am to BamaNatureBoy
Not yet. Dabo may eventually pass Bowden but he has yet to pass the longevity test.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 6:50 pm to FredBear
Bowden won in what for most years was the weakest football conference in the country. He was also one of the most crooked men to ever coach college football. But even so, Dabo still has a way to go before he passes Bowden in football lore...
Posted on 1/19/19 at 7:44 pm to Tiger in Texas
It is harder to win a natty now with conference title games and needing to win 2 playoff games.
Bowden never won a natty 2 out of 3 years.
Bowden never won a natty 2 out of 3 years.
This post was edited on 1/19/19 at 7:46 pm
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