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re: Crying Herbstreit
Posted on 9/8/20 at 8:23 am to ukraine_rebel
Posted on 9/8/20 at 8:23 am to ukraine_rebel
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Absolutely but it doesn’t make him or the system racist and signal that society is out to get young black men.
What about when cops rolled up and murdered a 12 year old for having a toy gun? Or they murdered a black man in Walmart for having a bb gun that he got in that store? Guess those examples don't count?
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Posted on 9/8/20 at 8:26 am to CaptainBrannigan
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Guess those examples don't count?
Unarmed white people are killed in this country by cops as well......guess they don't count either?
You don't see media coverage for a "movement" or riots destroying cities.......why is that?
This post was edited on 9/8/20 at 8:28 am
Posted on 9/8/20 at 8:35 am to CaptainBrannigan
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What about when cops rolled up and murdered a 12 year old for having a toy gun? Or they murdered a black man in Walmart for having a bb gun that he got in that store? Guess those examples don't count?
Those examples all count. What about the 99%+ of police interactions that are by the book and no one is wrongfully injured? Do those count? If we are only going to focus on the good among the protest (93% are non-violent) then why do we only focus on the bad with police?
I think non-violent protesters should be respected saluted, just like good cops should be respected and saluted. I think the idiots out there rioting, burning things, and rushing up to people at restaurants and on the streets need to be brought to justice - just as bad cops should be.
Posted on 9/8/20 at 8:39 am to ukraine_rebel
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Absolutely but it doesn’t make him or the system racist and signal that society is out to get young black men.
I never said the cop was racist but what i can say is the SYSTEM is set up in which to protect cops by any means necessary. Yes, you have the outliers where a cop gets held accountable for their actions, but 9 times out of 10 a cop can and will get off with what would be considered murder if you or I took the same action against someone.
It is VERY rare that a Grand Jury would convict a cop of wrong doing even when the evidence is there. But the most important part is the DA unwillingness to bring charges against the bad cops. (Example: Breonna Taylor's situation and no one has yet to be held accountable for killing that young woman while she was asleep in her bed).
Posted on 9/8/20 at 8:55 am to Leto II
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Clearly this is an alter? Right?
Yes
Posted on 9/8/20 at 9:08 am to BearsBoy
He should take a weekend off and head to Chicago and help with those 50-70 shootings of black on black. Then I will listen to what he has to say. Otherwise F him and espn. He is just whoring for his job because that is what the owners of espn demand.
Posted on 9/8/20 at 9:11 am to CaptainBrannigan
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What about when cops rolled up and murdered a 12 year old for having a toy gun? Or they murdered a black man in Walmart for having a bb gun that he got in that store? Guess those examples don't count?
Do all the murders in Chicago count of black on black murder ? What about all the black kids being gunned down by black shooters in Chicago ? More blacks are killed on a given weekend in Chicago than police shooting blacks in a years time.
You and people like you on this forum are two faced and liars. You don't give 2 shits about what happens in black communities if it doesn't involve a "white" cop shooting a black man. No way in hell you want to blame perpetrators if they're black.
Oh, keep voting in stupid pos' like Lori Lightfoot. What a brilliant leader she has been for Chicago.
Posted on 9/8/20 at 9:18 am to TeamLSU
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(Example: Breonna Taylor's situation and no one has yet to be held accountable for killing that young woman while she was asleep in her bed).
I don't think you've read very deeply into that case. Nevertheless, what are the racial overtones to that? This isn't about police frick ups and accountability. Herbstreit wasn't crying about that.
Posted on 9/8/20 at 9:41 am to BearsBoy
It was embarrassing to watch quite honestly.
Posted on 9/8/20 at 10:12 am to bamasgot13
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I think non-violent protesters should be respected saluted, just like good cops should be respected and saluted.
Every one respects and admire the Good Cops, my problem with the Good Cops is that when they see or know of their partner violating someone's rights they CHOOSE to remain silent, therefore in my book they are no better than the person committing the violation.
Posted on 9/8/20 at 10:18 am to BearsBoy
if the whole BLM/social justice movement were based on fact, i would be on board but in reality, statistically, it does`t hold water. When taken by each interaction with police you have a slightly higher chance of being killed if you are white than black. If i remember correctly even the Obama led DOJ looked into the perceived issue and could not find merit, now if you want to take the race issue out and make it about police conduct as a whole, there`s definently a point to be made.
Posted on 9/8/20 at 10:36 am to gamecockman12
If black lives matter, why do black lives kill black lives (a lot more often than blue lives kill black lives)?
If black lives matter, why does the black community not set higher expectations of black youth and hold them accountable? Obey the law; do not use, buy, or sell illegal drugs (Including under age drinking). If you encounter a police officer, be compliant, and be polite. Do those things, and you are very unlikely to ever have a problem with the police. Oh, and respect your girlfriend and wear a condom if you're going to have sex with her so you don't bring a life into the world you can't support. These are the expectations that were set for me in my youth, and I knew there WOULD be consequences if I did not meet them.
There are good police officers, and there are a very small number of bad police officers. There are also bad priests, car salesman, accountants, attorneys, doctors, etc.. Difference is that at virtually any moment a police officer's world can go to hell, and he may have to make a life or death decision to protect himself and/or innocent human life. He will likely have to make that decision in 1 to 2 seconds or less; however, that decision will be scrutinized for weeks, months, or years afterward. Imagine the pressure and stress. For best results, do not force him into that situation.
If black lives matter, why does the black community not set higher expectations of black youth and hold them accountable? Obey the law; do not use, buy, or sell illegal drugs (Including under age drinking). If you encounter a police officer, be compliant, and be polite. Do those things, and you are very unlikely to ever have a problem with the police. Oh, and respect your girlfriend and wear a condom if you're going to have sex with her so you don't bring a life into the world you can't support. These are the expectations that were set for me in my youth, and I knew there WOULD be consequences if I did not meet them.
There are good police officers, and there are a very small number of bad police officers. There are also bad priests, car salesman, accountants, attorneys, doctors, etc.. Difference is that at virtually any moment a police officer's world can go to hell, and he may have to make a life or death decision to protect himself and/or innocent human life. He will likely have to make that decision in 1 to 2 seconds or less; however, that decision will be scrutinized for weeks, months, or years afterward. Imagine the pressure and stress. For best results, do not force him into that situation.
This post was edited on 9/8/20 at 10:38 am
Posted on 9/8/20 at 10:50 am to TeamLSU
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I knew CT, he was a Freshman when I was at Angelo as a graduate assistant. He never seemed to be out of sorts around the locker or anything to do with the team. Went home hung out with some high school friends, got high on weed laced with something broke into a car dealership, didn't steal anything just kind of out of his mind. Rookie cop rushed ahead of the training officer and shot him, said that he thought he pulled his taser
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While it's undeniably a tragic situation, play stupid games, win stupid prizes. If you still want to play stupid games, you really shouldn't complain about the rules.
So what about the STUPID Officer that didn't know the difference between his weapon and his taser? Should he not be held accountable for his actions?
Of course you hold the police officer accountable if he violated his agency's use of force policy. However, we should recognize that the overwhelming amount of the blame rests with the young man who committed the crime in the first place. Don't make the weather and then complain about the rain.
Posted on 9/8/20 at 12:37 pm to CaptainBrannigan
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Where is the outrage of the murders of INNOCENT CHILDREN?
Why do you brainwashed religious morons always jump to this like it is some kind of winning argument?
Because it clearly demonstrates the double standard.
Posted on 9/8/20 at 3:10 pm to bamasgot13
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why do we only focus on the bad with police?
Because the "bad police" are the one's violating the most scared right of this nation; the right to due process of the law. Due process of the law is the only right listed twice in our constitution. Where does it say in our constitution that police get to bypass due process because of their snowflake feeling?
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