re: COVID-19 at Auburn

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Obviously every life is important, but at the same time the response has to be commensurate with the risk, especially considering the known effects (or lack thereof) on the population under age 70.

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Get your free thinking logic and reasoning out of here! Put on your mask and be afraid!

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You're right, under our current bs regulations there is no chance football is played.

However, if sanity returns sometime between now and September and people stop watching CNN and acknowledge this is essentially the flu, or even more mild, for the vast majority of the population then we won't have to panic every time someone gets sick and shut everything down. Until that happens we're going to continue to live in a clown world with no sports, concerts, schools etc...

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I don't watch CNN. I actually don't watch any cable news.

I do however, live about 3 miles from the CDC as the crow flies. I know people that work at the CDC. I know people that work at Emory med school/hospital. I know people that work at Grady. I've had multiple conversation with them all.

This is not the flu. It's deadlier and much easier to spread. How much deadlier is not known at this point. The medical community is still learning new things about this virus every day. To say that they are not looking at this in a sane way is just ignorant.

With that said, I don't disagree that there can be a middle ground in terms of shutdowns, etc, but that requires people to actually cooperate with what experts are suggesting - i.e. wearing masks in public places(indoors unless you're in an outdoor space that you can't get distance from others) and clearly there are a large number of Americans that disagree with that for whatever reason. I realize at first they said masks weren't what was needed, but as they learned more, they now realize that's the biggest tool in keeping this under control until there's some sort of vaccine or majorly effective treatments in production.

So, until people understand that they need to cooperate and don't take some sort of political stand that masks are somehow making them less free or take away their liberty, we're going continue on the same path we're on now(I'd describe that as living in a clown world) and have this virus continue to spread in high numbers and nothing will get back to normal for a long time.

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I get what you're saying, but per the CDC, from October through March there were as many as 62,000 non-COVID flu deaths in the United States.

Obviously every life is important, but at the same time the response has to be commensurate with the risk, especially considering the known effects (or lack thereof) on the population under age 70.

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And we've had almost 3x as many covid deaths in about half that time frame.

I don't disagree with the response being commensurate to the risk, but you have two major issues at hand, imo: 1)The medical community is still learning about this virus. At first they thought it was attacking the lung based, but now they understand it's vascular, and they're seeing a whole host of issues with that now. Now that they know that, they are able to treat it better, but again are still learning how to treat it effectively.

2)When you have a large part of the American public that refuses to cooperate with what the experts on these illnesses are saying they need to do to help stem the spread, this is the situation we're going to have to live with. That means the risk is higher for everyone else because they refuse to cooperate and therefore stronger measures have to be taken for public safety.

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That is interesting, I've seen a lot of anecdotal reports that tie to blood clotting, blood pressure, and even blood types.

At first I was thinking that different strains were responsible for the severity of damage, but it almost seems like it's more related to individual immune system response and physiology.

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I should say they think it's vascular and that's how they're starting to treat it. Our friend who's a Dr at Grady said they'll often immediately start patients that are admitted with covid off on anti-coagulents since they see so much clotting.

They've had recovered patients come back weeks later with stroke like symptoms due to blood clots. It's very rare, but children who've had it are showing delayed inflammatory syndrome.

My healthy 33 year old sister in law had a bad bout with it in April and now has a leaky heart valve. Still not sure the severity until she has more tests, but they're pretty sure it's from having covid.

take two aspirin and a couple days off, then back to practice.

Gotcha, so not actual data, just conjecture. Thank you for providing the link.

If you're interesting in actual data numbers and not conjecture, the two links I provided have death numbers which can be directly compared to the COVID-19 death numbers. As I doubt you'd be particularly interested in COVID-19 deaths as determined by conjecture and not data. I'm certainly not. Conjecture isn't worth much.

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92% of Covid deaths are in people over 55. These athletes will be fine.

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It's not all about deaths. It's about what is now happening to people after recovery.

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From this article(and the study is from JAMA, which is a very reputable peer reviewed medical journal):

One study examined the cardiac MRIs of 100 people who had recovered from Covid-19 and compared them to heart images from 100 people who were similar but not infected with the virus. Their average age was 49 and two-thirds of the patients had recovered at home. More than two months later, infected patients were more likely to have troubling cardiac signs than people in the control group: 78 patients showed structural changes to their hearts, 76 had evidence of a biomarker signaling cardiac injury typically found after a heart attack, and 60 had signs of inflammation.

These were relatively young, healthy patients who fell ill in the spring, Valentina Puntmann, who led the MRI study, pointed out in an interview. Many of them had just returned from ski vacations. None of them thought they had anything wrong with their hearts.

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This is not the flu. It's deadlier and much easier to spread.

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The health experts have been saying this for months but the moronic faction of the human race just will not listen. "It's a commie plot". "It's media driven hysteria".