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re: Could Saban have had the same success if he never left LSU?
Posted on 7/7/21 at 4:56 pm to RebelTheBear
Posted on 7/7/21 at 4:56 pm to RebelTheBear
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Who's to say Alabama doesn't hire Dabo Swinney around 2007 and turn them into a powerhouse, just like Saban did, thus preventing Saban from winning a bunch of titles while at LSU? There's too many hypotheticals at play here.
That’s not a realistic one consider Dabo was a WR coach at Clemson at the time. He wasn’t even 1 season into being AHC at a not great school.
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Posted on 7/7/21 at 4:57 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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I think he did mature a bit as an X’s and O’s Coach in the NFL but overall, yes easily and there’s literally no reason to think he wouldn’t have
I generally agree with this. He's said his NFL experience made him a better coach, but he was only there for 2 years.
It isn't like he grew by leaps and bounds, it was just a fine tuning.
He's quite simply tGOAT. Put him at any of the major SEC programs for the last 20 years (Big-6 + aTm) and he's got AT LEAST a ring for every finger on one hand.
Posted on 7/7/21 at 5:09 pm to SidewalkTiger
Yes. Saban could have taken Ole Miss to Bama’s level. He showed he knows how to get what he wants from an athletics dept/boosters.
Posted on 7/7/21 at 5:11 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Why not?
That bozo will never say anything good about LSU.
Posted on 7/7/21 at 5:15 pm to SidewalkTiger
He’d have had more, most likely. Alabama and sometimes Auburn have been the biggest bumps in the road for LSU and without him at Alabama, it’s probably us that dominates for so many years.
Posted on 7/7/21 at 5:17 pm to Miznoz
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The point is the Saban is the best CFB coach and he decided something wasn't good enough for him at LSU, so there must be some kind of shite there that keeps LSU from being that good, not just hiring the right coach.
Wow - this was a really bad take. You may want to sit this one out.
Posted on 7/7/21 at 5:19 pm to sta4ever
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shite did you see what his successor was able to do?
Lose to two unranked teams with a NC roster?
Posted on 7/7/21 at 5:20 pm to SidewalkTiger
No. Because Coonasses...
This post was edited on 7/7/21 at 5:21 pm
Posted on 7/7/21 at 5:21 pm to SidewalkTiger
Saban never even had back to back 10 win seasons at LSU. He would have been very successful and would have won a couple more NCs, but he wouldn't have achieved what he has at Bama.
Posted on 7/7/21 at 5:22 pm to RD Dawg
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Lose to two unranked teams with a NC roster?
1980.
Posted on 7/7/21 at 5:26 pm to SidewalkTiger
People like to act like Alabama is just some other school in the SEC and that anyone can be them with the right coach. Where in the history of the Southeastern Conference has this been shown? Bear Bryant was considered to be the greatest college football coach in the history of the sport prior to Saban's run. He coached more combined years in CFB before arriving in Tuscaloosa than did Saban. He had success at Kentucky and at Texas A&M, but he never had the sustained success as he had at Alabama.
Before Saban's run began in 2008, most rival SEC fans saw him as just another good head coach who landed a gig at Alabama. Many assumed he'd be gone after four or five years. No one saw what was coming. Alabama fans, in their wildest dreams, couldn't have guessed what was about to happen. Before his stint at Alabama, the guy had never produced back-to-back 10-win seasons. He hasn't had a season with fewer than 10 wins since 2007.
Clearly, there is something that Alabama has that the rest of the SEC, including LSU, doesn't have. Because before his run at Alabama, who in the hell saw him as anything more than just a good football coach?
Before Saban's run began in 2008, most rival SEC fans saw him as just another good head coach who landed a gig at Alabama. Many assumed he'd be gone after four or five years. No one saw what was coming. Alabama fans, in their wildest dreams, couldn't have guessed what was about to happen. Before his stint at Alabama, the guy had never produced back-to-back 10-win seasons. He hasn't had a season with fewer than 10 wins since 2007.
Clearly, there is something that Alabama has that the rest of the SEC, including LSU, doesn't have. Because before his run at Alabama, who in the hell saw him as anything more than just a good football coach?
Posted on 7/7/21 at 5:27 pm to DirtyDawg
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considering Alabama is traditionally the only road block for LSU as of late and he is the primary reason for that.
Not only LSU, but UGA and everyone else.
Posted on 7/7/21 at 5:28 pm to RollTide1987
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Clearly, there is something that Alabama has that the rest of the SEC, including LSU, doesn't have
Like what?
Posted on 7/7/21 at 5:29 pm to mbogo
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Saban never even had back to back 10 win seasons at LSU
Yet Miles had three 10 win seasons in a row.
Was that because the program was reaping some of the early success that Saban had set in motion or was Miles just a better coach at LSU?
Posted on 7/7/21 at 5:29 pm to RollTide1987
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Before Saban's run began in 2008, most rival SEC fans saw him as just another good head coach who landed a gig at Alabama. Many assumed he'd be gone after four or five years
Wtf? It was seen as an awesome hire at the time and most predicted he would turn them into a winner like LSU.
Posted on 7/7/21 at 5:36 pm to SidewalkTiger
I don’t see why not.
Posted on 7/7/21 at 5:38 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Yet Miles had three 10 win seasons in a row.
This is where their logic always breaks down.
They either have to admit that Miles was a better coach than Saban in that time period or admit that maybe Alabama isn’t particularly special compared to some other schools.
Posted on 7/7/21 at 5:39 pm to SidewalkTiger
Dude checked out after 2003 NC. His O-line recruiting pipeline / cupboard left low. 2004 Capitol One Bowl coaching.
Presumably you mean if he intended to stay "forever", no reason to think he does not have continued success.
However, to be who you are, you have to have gone through what you went through (ie, NFL). Saban after Miami probably approached college football a bit differently as compared to pre-Miami.
Presumably you mean if he intended to stay "forever", no reason to think he does not have continued success.
However, to be who you are, you have to have gone through what you went through (ie, NFL). Saban after Miami probably approached college football a bit differently as compared to pre-Miami.
Posted on 7/7/21 at 5:40 pm to mbogo
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Saban never even had back to back 10 win seasons at LSU.
He also never had a record at LSU as poor as his 7-6 season at Alabama, either. And recognize that his first season at LSU was following a 3-9 season with Dinardo.
Posted on 7/7/21 at 5:42 pm to SidewalkTiger
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